What happened to the Muay Thai Clinch in MMA?

[Armitage Shanks]

You don't see it so often these days, and I wondered why - it was used to destroy half of Japan and America in the 00s. Is it MMA wrestling that has neutralized it?

 

[Hoop]

dos Anjos was using it against Lawler last week, but, yes don't see it very much nowadays.

 

[accolyte1022]

You don't see it so often these days, and I wondered why - it was used to destroy half of Japan and America in the 00s. Is it MMA wrestling that has neutralized it?

Damn, that's brutal.

 

[leatherneck]

people solved it (no, not w wrestling)

 

[Chain Saw]

It will make a comeback.

 

[EndlessCritic]

Umm let's see, the last UFC event saw Alessio Di Chirico KO Bamgbose with a knee from the plum, and RDA just dominated Lawler with the thai clinch.

Seems like the Thai clinch is alive and well.

 

[Hotora86]

Was looking for some data on topic and came across this very detailed and interesting article:

http://muaythaipros.com/muay-thai-for-mma-differences/

Doesn't directly answer TS' question (sorry) but is worth a read.

 

[VVarhead]

Umm let's see, the last UFC event saw Alessio Di Chirico KO Bamgbose with a knee from the plum, and RDA just dominated Lawler with the thai clinch.

Seems like the Thai clinch is alive and well.

Came here to post this.

 

[Epicness]

Umm let's see, the last UFC event saw Alessio Di Chirico KO Bamgbose with a knee from the plum, and RDA just dominated Lawler with the thai clinch.

Seems like the Thai clinch is alive and well.

I wouldnt say he “dominated” Robbie in the clinch, he did most of his best work with leg kicks and some of it against the fence but really never got anything meaningful off from the MT clinch.

Also came in to post this though, majority of that fight took place in the clinch

 

[Tugboat]

Ask RDA

 

[EndlessCritic]

I wouldnt say he “dominated” Robbie in the clinch, he did most of his best work with leg kicks and some of it against the fence but really never got anything meaningful off from the MT clinch.

Also came in to post this though, majority of that fight took place in the clinch

We'll have to agree to disagree then. Some of RDA's best work was his knees to the body from the clinch.

 

[Epicness]

We'll have to agree to disagree then. Some of RDA's best work was his knees to the body from the clinch.

Im not saying he didnt have success there but Robbie landed his best shots of the fight there as well, those hooks he was ripping to the body looked naaasty. Both dudes are tough as fuck

 

[MuddyFugger]

Weidman answers the thai clinch with a short hook to the body and then the head.

 

[Hoop]

Question for the Muay Thai watchers or those who train or have trained in it; what is the textbook way of escaping it in a Thai boxing fight? It looks like from the fights I've watched, they both end up clinching and throwing knees at one another.

When Silva did it to Franklin x 2, it looked weird at first and as if Franklin was paralysed or just simply didn't know how to escape it. I'd have thought for MMA, one way of escaping it is to put one hand/arm on the fighter who has them in a clinch - like an overhook - and trying to push down and make them lean to the side, while the other arm is used to block a knee to the body/head.

I don't recall Franklin being hurt in the 1st fight before Silva latched it on, but it looked like Franklin's posture or lack of it was a big factor in him not being able to defend it. And of course the knees he was being hit with.

 

[oldschoolmmafan]

Question for the Muay Thai watchers or those who train or have trained in it; what is the textbook way of escaping it in a Thai boxing fight? It looks like from the fights I've watched, they both end up clinching and throwing knees at one another.

When Silva did it to Franklin x 2, it looked weird at first and as if Franklin was paralysed or just simply didn't know how to escape it. I'd have thought for MMA, one way of escaping it is to put one hand/arm on the fighter who has them in a clinch - like an overhook - and trying to push down and make them lean to the side, while the other arm is used to block a knee to the body/head.

I don't recall Franklin being hurt in the 1st fight before Silva latched it on, but it looked like Franklin's posture or lack of it was a big factor in him not being able to defend it. And of course the knees he was being hit with.

Think of it like a Muay Thai fighter is made of stone, most MMA fighters are made of clay.

 

[Hoop]

Think of it like a Muay Thai fighter is made of stone, most MMA fighters are made of clay.

 

[tasticles]

Umm let's see, the last UFC event saw Alessio Di Chirico KO Bamgbose with a knee from the plum, and RDA just dominated Lawler with the thai clinch.

Seems like the Thai clinch is alive and well.

Werdum uses it regularly too. Cain when he is healthy

 

[tasticles]

Question for the Muay Thai watchers or those who train or have trained in it; what is the textbook way of escaping it in a Thai boxing fight? It looks like from the fights I've watched, they both end up clinching and throwing knees at one another.

When Silva did it to Franklin x 2, it looked weird at first and as if Franklin was paralysed or just simply didn't know how to escape it. I'd have thought for MMA, one way of escaping it is to put one hand/arm on the fighter who has them in a clinch - like an overhook - and trying to push down and make them lean to the side, while the other arm is used to block a knee to the body/head.

I don't recall Franklin being hurt in the 1st fight before Silva latched it on, but it looked like Franklin's posture or lack of it was a big factor in him not being able to defend it. And of course the knees he was being hit with.

I tend to use the forearm in the throat technique. I also have retard strength to push off very hard. If that fails it's a game of switching hands and playing with each others armpits pretty much. Franklin got fucked up because he was in fact clueless but Anderson silvas strength is underestimated. It's hard to get out of once you've got someone very strong will full plum whipping you around.

Franklin had no idea what he was doing to escape, Silva was breaking his posture, and I think getting his nose battered under his eye socket made him hit the panic button or kept him from reacting.

 

[Hoop]

I tend to use the forearm in the throat technique. I also have retard strength to push off very hard. If that fails it's a game of switching hands and playing with each others armpits pretty much. Franklin got fucked up because he was in fact clueless but Anderson silvas strength is underestimated. It's hard to get out of once you've got someone very strong will full plum whipping you around.

Franklin had no idea what he was doing to escape, Silva was breaking his posture, and I think getting his nose battered under his eye socket made him hit the panic button or kept him from reacting.

Cheers.

I'd assume with MMA gloves you have a better grip as you can lock the fingers together? There must be some sports science to it too, where if you have it on the right spot (the base of the neck?) it obviously limits the fighter caught in it movement.

 

[EndlessCritic]

Anyways, right now the two most effective thai clinch players are Matt Brown (who is now sadly retiring), and arguably Karolina K.