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What does Stipe do better than Cormier?.............

Combat Wombatt

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The answer.....nothing.

Striking: DC is a decent striker that uses kicks and punches with good power behind them although he is not a 1 punch KO striker like Hunt or Ngannou. Stipe is a striker that basically uses punching only and very few kicks (I don't remember him using too many high kicks). Stipe is a very technical striker who rarely wastes his punches and doesn't get wild. When it comes to 2 fighters that use striking mainly and are closely matched I've got to give the edge to the fighter that also uses kicks.


Wrestling: I've got to give the wrestling edge to DC. Although Stipe is a solid collegiate wrestler if you've ever trained with Olympic wrestlers vs. high level collegiate wrestlers it's just another level. I saw larger collegiate wrestlers get schooled by a much smaller John Smith who is a legend in wrestling. His Olympic caliber wrestling was just amazing.

If Stipe used freestyle wrestling and shot from far out like Hughes or GSP, then it would be a different game. But he does a lot of single legs and doubles where he drops from the clinch which I give the advantage to DC in. DC threw Barnett around at HW and schooled Hendo.

I think DC will shock some people who think that Stipe is going to out-wrestle him. Taking down a gassed Ngannou is a lot different tan taking down DC.


Ground Game: I'd say both are about even on their ground game. Neither are submission artists and both mainly use GnP when on the ground. I will say I've never seen as weak GnP from DC as I've seen from Stipe. Cormier would have TKO'd Ngannou easily vs. just laying on him and only throwing a punch when the ref threatens a stand up for 5 rounds.


Other Factors: I think both have decent chins but I'd say DC's is just a bit better than Stipe's. Stipe has been finished by Struve and dropped by Overeem (not that that's embarrassing) and DC has only been hurt or dropped by Jones. I'd assume DC would listen to the after fight interview from his last Jone's loss and see what he needs to improve upon.

Gas tank, both have good gas tanks but I'd still give the edge to DC. He seems to have an endlass tank while Stipe gassed in the 1st round against Ngannou.


DC is older and has spoken about how cutting weight is harder. So, he's naturally bigger which means he won't be working as hard to add weight as smaller fighters do.

Either way, this is a great fight and I can't wait to see it.


My prediction:

DC defeats Stipe via TKO or UD.
 
Lol at you giving the edge to DC in striking just because he uses kicks.

First of all, DCs weak ass kicks don't do shit.

Second of all, boxers have beaten kickboxers before.

Examples:
McGregor vs Aldo
Diaz vs Cerrone

Stipe is a much better striker than DC. I wouldn't be surprised if he knocks him out on the feet.
 
Stipe has better boxing, footwork, head movement, power.

Plus his reach and size.

Cormier is in for a beating unless he uses Cruz's underhook advice for 25 mins against the cage.
 
Lol at you giving the edge to DC in striking just because he uses kicks.

First of all, DCs weak ass kicks don't do shit.

Second of all, boxers have beaten kickboxers before.

Examples:
McGregor vs Aldo
Diaz vs Cerrone

Stipe is a much better striker than DC.


He maybe a better striker but he will also have to contend with the takedown and far inferior strikers have beaten superior strikers because of the TD threat.

Plus, expect DC to use a Wall-N-Stall to TD to GnP smothering gameplay to wear Stipe down and suffocate him.


Don’t expect Cormier to fight on the edge and get picked apart. He’s gonna wanna get close, use the clinch, and wear Stipe down.
 
He maybe a better striker but he will also have to contend with the takedown and far inferior strikers have beaten superior strikers because of the TD threat.

Plus, expect DC to use a Wall-N-Stall to TD to GnP smothering gameplay to wear Stipe down and suffocate him.

Stipe is massive compared to DC.

He's also one of the best wrestlers that DC has faced in MMA.

We'll see if DC can impose his will on a guy this big who's also a good wrestler. I don't think it's a good matchup for him.
 
I think Stipe's striking is massively underrated here. People also dismiss the Werdum win as some kinda fluke, in my opinion it's quite impressive he was able to stay calm and collect running backwards while throwing a perfectly placed short punch.

we see a lot of fighters striking go to shet while being pressured backwards.
 
The answer.....nothing.

Striking: DC is a decent striker that uses kicks and punches with good power behind them although he is not a 1 punch KO striker like Hunt or Ngannou. Stipe is a striker that basically uses punching only and very few kicks (I don't remember him using too many high kicks). Stipe is a very technical striker who rarely wastes his punches and doesn't get wild. When it comes to 2 fighters that use striking mainly and are closely matched I've got to give the edge to the fighter that also uses kicks.


Wrestling: I've got to give the wrestling edge to DC. Although Stipe is a solid collegiate wrestler if you've ever trained with Olympic wrestlers vs. high level collegiate wrestlers it's just another level. I saw larger collegiate wrestlers get schooled by a much smaller John Smith who is a legend in wrestling. His Olympic caliber wrestling was just amazing.

If Stipe used freestyle wrestling and shot from far out like Hughes or GSP, then it would be a different game. But he does a lot of single legs and doubles where he drops from the clinch which I give the advantage to DC in. DC threw Barnett around at HW and schooled Hendo.

I think DC will shock some people who think that Stipe is going to out-wrestle him. Taking down a gassed Ngannou is a lot different tan taking down DC.


Ground Game: I'd say both are about even on their ground game. Neither are submission artists and both mainly use GnP when on the ground. I will say I've never seen as weak GnP from DC as I've seen from Stipe. Cormier would have TKO'd Ngannou easily vs. just laying on him and only throwing a punch when the ref threatens a stand up for 5 rounds.


Other Factors: I think both have decent chins but I'd say DC's is just a bit better than Stipe's. Stipe has been finished by Struve and dropped by Overeem (not that that's embarrassing) and DC has only been hurt or dropped by Jones. I'd assume DC would listen to the after fight interview from his last Jone's loss and see what he needs to improve upon.

Gas tank, both have good gas tanks but I'd still give the edge to DC. He seems to have an endlass tank while Stipe gassed in the 1st round against Ngannou.


DC is older and has spoken about how cutting weight is harder. So, he's naturally bigger which means he won't be working as hard to add weight as smaller fighters do.

Either way, this is a great fight and I can't wait to see it.


My prediction:

DC defeats Stipe via TKO or UD.

I definitelt think Stipe is the better striker. Although he doesn't use a lot of kicks like you say, his boxing is much better than DC, he also has excellent head movement as we saw in the N'gannou fight. His run of KO's is testament to this.

Agree with everything else, except i would say Stipe's chin is equal to DC's. Don't forget that Gus dropped DC as well. Also i think the gas tanks are pretty even.

I think it's going to be a 48-47 type decision, and i cannot pick between them.
 
Very sharp and technical hands is superior to somewhat sloppy hands and kicks.

You're wrong on that.

I give the ground game advantage and wrestling advantage very very much in favor of DC.
 
DC's kicks are useless in a fight. Stipe is the better boxer, longer reach advantage and a significant power advantage. If DC can't make it a grappling contest he is in for a rough night.
 
Stipe is too smart I think. He's a better striker and has a massive size and reach advantage. He's going to pick his shots from the outside and after a few rounds start trying to take DC down to break his will. Like someone said unless DC embraces the underhook against the cage and tries to ride this fight to a decision I don't see what he can do...
 
Stipe is better in the height and reach department

Probably takes a better punch as well

If stipe wins he will continue fighting

If d.c.wins he probably won't fight again?
 
Lol at you giving the edge to DC in striking just because he uses kicks.

First of all, DCs weak ass kicks don't do shit.

Second of all, boxers have beaten kickboxers before.

Examples:
McGregor vs Aldo
Diaz vs Cerrone

Stipe is a much better striker than DC. I wouldn't be surprised if he knocks him out on the feet.

this. except i would put more emphasis on the lol.... maybe change it into an lmao

Stipes knees will be there too.
 
He was a superior fighter to bones too in those areas but that was negated by height ,weight and reach (and steriods admitedly)
Stipe wont be keeping him at bay with weak eye pokes hel be using a stiff jab and crisp straight punches
Stipe has one shot power himself
 
I love Daniel Cormier.

But you're insane if you think this. JJ would keep his hands out and fingers outstretched, keeping someone at arms distance.

Stipe won't be doing any of that, he'll be hitting him in the fucking face with precision striking.

JJ doesn't hit as hard as Stipe.
JJ doesn't have boxing skills like Stipe.
JJ doesn't have the size of Stipe.
 
Stipe throws crisper more powerful punches, but he tends to duck his head down leaving himself open to upper cuts. On paper DC is the better wrestler, but Stipe is no slouch either as he has a D-1 background himself. I believe they both wrestled at 197, and once DC bulks up a bit I don't think there will be a weight advantage, although Stipe does have a bigger frame. It's honestly a pick em fight imo.
 
The answer.....nothing.

Striking: DC is a decent striker that uses kicks and punches with good power behind them although he is not a 1 punch KO striker like Hunt or Ngannou. Stipe is a striker that basically uses punching only and very few kicks (I don't remember him using too many high kicks). Stipe is a very technical striker who rarely wastes his punches and doesn't get wild. When it comes to 2 fighters that use striking mainly and are closely matched I've got to give the edge to the fighter that also uses kicks.


Wrestling: I've got to give the wrestling edge to DC. Although Stipe is a solid collegiate wrestler if you've ever trained with Olympic wrestlers vs. high level collegiate wrestlers it's just another level. I saw larger collegiate wrestlers get schooled by a much smaller John Smith who is a legend in wrestling. His Olympic caliber wrestling was just amazing.

If Stipe used freestyle wrestling and shot from far out like Hughes or GSP, then it would be a different game. But he does a lot of single legs and doubles where he drops from the clinch which I give the advantage to DC in. DC threw Barnett around at HW and schooled Hendo.

I think DC will shock some people who think that Stipe is going to out-wrestle him. Taking down a gassed Ngannou is a lot different tan taking down DC.


Ground Game: I'd say both are about even on their ground game. Neither are submission artists and both mainly use GnP when on the ground. I will say I've never seen as weak GnP from DC as I've seen from Stipe. Cormier would have TKO'd Ngannou easily vs. just laying on him and only throwing a punch when the ref threatens a stand up for 5 rounds.


Other Factors: I think both have decent chins but I'd say DC's is just a bit better than Stipe's. Stipe has been finished by Struve and dropped by Overeem (not that that's embarrassing) and DC has only been hurt or dropped by Jones. I'd assume DC would listen to the after fight interview from his last Jone's loss and see what he needs to improve upon.

Gas tank, both have good gas tanks but I'd still give the edge to DC. He seems to have an endlass tank while Stipe gassed in the 1st round against Ngannou.


DC is older and has spoken about how cutting weight is harder. So, he's naturally bigger which means he won't be working as hard to add weight as smaller fighters do.

Either way, this is a great fight and I can't wait to see it.


My prediction:

DC defeats Stipe via TKO or UD.
Stipe is younger better boxing skills and not Dana bitch
 
I dont know where the myth of stipe having good boxing came from, maybe because he has some kos but still. Stipe gets hit constantly and his chin is always wide open when he throws.

Besides a size advantage Stipe is outclassed in this fight.
 
I agree with TS that DC is just as good or better in every facet of MMA, but Stipe's style, reach, and size are gonna make all the difference. Stipe relies on long one-two combinations, and while DC is no stranger to a reach disadvantage, this isn't Jones or Gus. He's not gonna be able to just walk through Stipe's punches like he did theirs, each one is gonna hurt. I see Stipe landing multiple clean shots before ko'ing DC.
 
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