What does Jon do that no one else does?

[icemun]

The way he made Bonnar look like a child was what caught my attention back then,got his autograph right around the same time the 3rd UFC fight was with Bonnar.

08'-09' long before he became a house hold name

Hell yeah

I remember friends at the time, you gotta see that guy. That fight caught my attention for sure, that elbow and belly back suplex at the time was something out of movies

 

[icemun]

I don't understand much, but I do understand Reyes sent Jones out of the division and he took 3+ years off while Ngannou fought 3x. He had all that time to fight Francis and didn't. I think it's pretty clear Jones has no interest in fighting the best hw's, in the weakest era even. He took the Gane fight because he has terrible grappling, cherry picked Stipe, and now wants Poatan to move up.


If they came to an agreement Jones likely would have changed his mind anyway, like he did with Tom, which is why he's not on the white house card. If Jones agreed to fight Ngannou it's because he knew it probably wouldn't happen. If you think in any way Ngannou ducked an mma fight with Jones and took the easy way out to go box Tyson Fury you're a silly goose. A fight he arguably won, I wonder how Jones would do boxing Tyson Fury. He also made more money from the Fury fight than he did in his entire UFC career, that might have been a motivating factor.

Also, none of what I said happened? Dana didn't say Jones should think about moving to 185 after Francis ko'd Stipe?



Jones never said he needed time to put on muscle to become a proper hw? And he didn't show up looking like this?

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Weird fellacious revisionist history


Francis was UFC champion for less than 150 days and in the END QUIT the UFC instead of fighting Jones.
He literally QUIT MMA and said "I dont want to fight Jones" and explains why he QUIT









Jones was somehow supposed to force someone who quit the UFC to fight him. how?



Prior to March 2021: Francis wasn't the champ
March 2021: Francis wins the UFC HW title
March 2021-October 2021: Francis heals from the title fight and seeks a defense. At this point Jones has 0 heavyweight bouts.
October 2021: Francis vs. Ciryl announced.
January 23 2022: Francis fights Ciryl.
January 26 2022: Francis announces he won't return until a knee surgery and recovery, so he is targeting 2023.
March 2022: Francis has the surgery. 9 month recovery reported. Targeted return early 2023.
January 2023: Francis leaves the UFC.

 

[FilipEmoFights]

What does Jon do that no one else does?​

Coke? Eye Poke? Turinibol? Pulse? Hid under the Octagon from Commission drug tests? Beat his wife in front of his kids? Hit and Run?

I forgot about hiding under the octogan

 

[Gamer2k4]

As a matter of fact, @icemun :

Opponent	Age Difference (Opponent was)	Reach Adv (Jones had)
Andre Gusmão	10 years older	+8"
Jake O’Brien	3 years older	+8"
Matt Hamill	11 years older	+8"
Brandon Vera	10 years older	+7"
Vladimir Matyushenko	16 years older	+11"
Ryan Bader	4 years older	+11"
Mauricio “Shogun” Rua	6 years older	+9"
Lyoto Machida	9 years older	+12"
Rashad Evans	8 years older	+10"
Vitor Belfort	10 years older	+11"
Glover Teixeira	8 years older	+9"
Daniel Cormier (UFC 182)	9 years older	+8"
Ovince Saint Preux	5 years older	+5"
Daniel Cormier (UFC 214)	9 years older	+8"
Thiago Santos	4 years older	+8"
Chael Sonnen	10 years older	+10.5"

Across his entire career, Jon Jones has only been older than three opponents:

1. Anthony Smith (2019) – Jones 31, Smith 30 (1 year)
2. Dominick Reyes (2020) – Jones 32, Reyes 30 (2 years)
3. Ciryl Gane (2023) – Jones 35, Gane 32 (3 years)

And - of course - Jon Jones has never faced an opponent with a longer reach than his own.

@FilipEmoFights - here's the answer to Your OP.

This is one of those arguments that's unwinnable no matter which side you take. If Jones was older than all his opponents, people would complain about how he cherry-picked green fighters instead of fighting veterans. Since he was younger, the argument instead is that he only fought old fighters past their prime.

What it comes down to is that when you're the youngest champion in UFC history, you're going to fight people older than you. A lot. Age, like reach or punching power or slick submission skills, is one of those factors that's only useful if you've got all the other qualities to back it up. If being young is such an overwhelming advantage, we'd see a lot of young champions, and the reality is that we don't.

 

[Marko Polo]

LOOL going for the only hope Jones haters has got left: turning Jones' actual wins in to make believe losses.

Weak. People on Instagram or whatever can pretend to believe this, not someone on here who is informed. Jon got gifted the decision after getting beat handily. Anything else is pure delusion.

 

[Ladder Master]

 

[Fedorgasm]

Honestly, he just had the balls to challenge the referees to stop him.

He saw that the refs were reluctant to do anything beyond issuing warnings, so he decided to ignore the rules. He did get DQ'd once for an illegal elbow but he's gotten away with eyepokes every time after that. So it's a winning strategy.

He made the same observation regarding roids. He did get a NC once but he's gotten away with it a bunch of other times so that, too, is a winning strategy.

 

[loisestrad]

Weak. People on Instagram or whatever can pretend to believe this, not someone on here who is informed. Jon got gifted the decision after getting beat handily. Anything else is pure delusion.

Was a close fight that got waaaay exaggerated into "biggest robbery ever!" cuz a lot of people dislike Jones (for good reason, I'll admit).

It's definitely make believe to say that Jones got beat "handily". He didn't.

But who cares really, it's not really relevant in 2026. I don't know why the fuck it's still getting me annoyed

 

[Hotora86]

This is one of those arguments that's unwinnable no matter which side you take. If Jones was older than all his opponents, people would complain about how he cherry-picked green fighters instead of fighting veterans. Since he was younger, the argument instead is that he only fought old fighters past their prime.

What it comes down to is that when you're the youngest champion in UFC history, you're going to fight people older than you. A lot. Age, like reach or punching power or slick submission skills, is one of those factors that's only useful if you've got all the other qualities to back it up. If being young is such an overwhelming advantage, we'd see a lot of young champions, and the reality is that we don't.

Sure, I'm not saying it was only youth that made Jon great.
Jon was/had a perfect storm of circumstances to win so much:

• in the mix from a young age
• natural talent
• excellent physique
• ridiculous reach
• great coaches
• high fight IQ
• often undersized opponents
• mostly aging opponents
• PEDs
• eye pokes
• refs on his side in every close fight (Gus, Santos, Reyes)
• heavily supported by Dana