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Crime What did the cops do wrong today Megathread Vol. 6 ? (who knows, lots of cop threads)

Easy enough to say that from the safety of your keyboard without actually facing the threat of someone dousing you with a steaming liquid.

Ya'll dummies can try to minimize the seriousness of that threat all you want, but it is capable of causing serious injury. And as such, serves as justification for Grayson to use lethal force to defend himself and partner from being doused with said liquid.

The lady wasn't threatening anything when he drew his gun and threatened to shoot her in the face. She just said the Jesus rebuke statement. Then he went retard.

You can try to gaslight all you want. We all have eyes and saw the video. That's how it went down.
 
The lady wasn't threatening anything when he drew his gun and threatened to shoot her in the face. She just said the Jesus rebuke statement. Then he went retard.

You can try to gaslight all you want. We all have eyes and saw the video. That's how it went down.
As she moved from the stove to the sink she said "where ya'll going?". He responded "away from that steaming pot" it was at that point that she made the rebuke you in Jesus name comment.

Those comments she made in conjunction with one another can be construed as a threat......and in fact it was. Not by 1 Officer, but by both. Graysons partner also drew and aimed his gun because he also received her comments as a threat to hurl the liquid.
 
Illinois does not have an "exhaust all alternatives prior to lethal force" statute. Even if we did, the way it unfolded, I'm not sure that would change much anyway. It's easy to put everything under a microscope in hindsight. But statute and case law instructs us to analyze the totality of the circumstances as they existed in the moment WITHOUT the benefit of hindsight.

Horrible situation with a tragic outcome. My heart goes out to the Massey family, and to Grayson and his family as well.

Couple folks up in here melting down lol.
So you're filing this under a "lawful but awful" situation?
 
These next three(and there were more) are all in reference to “it’s just a brick, oussy” lol. And is told poon a story about the closest I ever came to shooting someone was a guy threatening to smash an old man over the head with a bricks. Dude was high as fuck and running around naked in winter, hits the old man and knocks him down and is standing above him with the brick raised above his head saying he was going to bash his brains out. The suspects family was there shouting and I had him at gunpoint (oh no, I am sure you will chide me for that) and he started screaming again about bashing his brains out: I began to slowly pull the trigger and we had somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 lb triggers and I had probably about 8 applied when my dipshit partner stepped in front of me. I repositioned, keeping the cruiser as cover and as I was raising my gun again, he dropped the brick on the old man’s shoulder, breaking his collarbone. I then tackled his ass and took him into custody. My idiot partner walking into my line of fire (out of lack of situational and positional awareness likely saved that dude’s life but it could have cost the old man his. Now this was probably maybe 16 years ago, maybe 17. The suspects dad was a high ranking gang member and it would have been a very ugly scene. If that happened now a days, it would be all over cnn with ben crump mumbling his mouth full of marbles standing next to the family


So I have been in this situation or something similar

I have spoken at lengths about my dislike of their tactics. While I am probably not as brave as a paralegal like you, I have tackled a man swinging a machete in a hallway before and gone hands on with three men other subjects with knives-one trying to kill himself and I ended up getting cut and another I was arresting for domestic battery and as I approached him and told him, he yanks a knife out of his pocket and I am trying to pin his hand against his pocket and he’s yelling “shoot me/kill me” like he is about to have a xenomoroh burst out of his chest: I eventually get the knife knocked out of his hand and get him in custody-and this was about an hour and a half after we got into a foot pursuit with an armed bank robber but we lost him: then I go home and my wife tells me we’re pregnant, so that was a fun day: my point is that I probably would not have hesitated and would have hit him with the cruiser door or tackled him from behind when he was walking. But that’s me, and apparently you, you mean monster; you:

But everyone has different skill sets, preferred tactics; and confidence levels and strengths and weaknesses, maybe that officer wasn’t too keenly focused on going hands on with a guy armed with a deadly weapon, and that is absolutely fine. The oath I took and the one that cop took had absolutely nothing that requires the officer to have to tackle him or take stupid risks with his life because some dumbass with a brick is threatening people after he stole stuff because he’s a shitbag that feels entitled to do whatever the fuck he wants.

I have done stupid shit and taken stupid risks when I was younger that now I look back at and call myself a dumbass for taking unnecessary risks to my own safety to try and deal with some fucking idiot; but my point is that that oath does not require an officer to take that risk at his own personal safety if they don’t want to. A guy threatening people with a brick -a deadly weapon, is lethal force territory and what did he do? He tried to smash that cop’s head in by throwing the brick at him and he got shot for it: nit say it with me “he fucked around and found out:” fuck him.

It’s 0400 and I am going to bed: I will finish this later.



https://www.newsweek.com/man-dies-after-being-hit-brick-thrown-monkey-1641283


https://www.newsweek.com/man-dies-after-being-hit-brick-thrown-monkey-1641283


https://www.centralillinoisproud.co...dead-after-getting-struck-by-teen-with-brick/


THIS IS AN EXCHANGE IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIND AND PROVES YOUR LAST STATEMENT S FLAT OUT LIE as well as other lies you have told. You. You’re going to tackle someone in your physical condition with all the ailments you described. Or was that yet another lie.

And in that section of the thread, I was in an out of the hospital for my back and when i wouldn’t respond while being treated medicated, you guys called me a pussy running from my thread. You really are scumbagsbofbthe lowest order.

Then, there’s probably three long posts in there because I used down time on midnights to crank out long posts in my cop experiences thread. You were acting like I was violating my oath or some shit. Most sergeants that get desk duty until they hired civilians, watched television all night when it was quiet.


Get well soon Bro!
 
There was literally no reason for him to escalate it to lethal force and drawing his gun.

Multiple people itt have mentioned escalation or lack of de-escalation on Grayson's part. To be clear, ILLINOIS DOES NOT HAVE A DE-ESCALATION STATUTE. What we do have is a "Duty to intervene" Statute which requires an Officer to intervene if he sees another Officer using excessive force. So if You think Grayson drawing his weapon was excessive, then You should be calling for charges against his partner for failing to intervene, which he is Statutorally required to do when he encounters excessive force being used by one of his comrades.
 
Easy enough to say that from the safety of your keyboard without actually facing the threat of someone dousing you with a steaming liquid.

Ya'll dummies can try to minimize the seriousness of that threat all you want, but it is capable of causing serious injury. And as such, serves as justification for Grayson to use lethal force to defend himself and partner from being doused with said liquid.
Here you go with the name calling again.

The premediative threat to blow her head off and the deadly weapon were pointed at her head prior to what your dumbass is conflating as the pot being thrown.

I literally said If it was boiling water, unprovoked, he was within range, & she committed a crime I would have a different stance. Not a legal argument. Just that I wouldn't feel as bad or think it was as outrageous.

Tell us more on how she wasn't being detained or held captive at gun point though.....

I love how you run from the simple questions that destroy your case.

If I'm free and somebody pulls a gun and aims it to my head as they threaten to kill me, should I be allowed to throw a pot full of water at them???????
 
Multiple people itt have mentioned escalation or lack of de-escalation on Grayson's part. To be clear, ILLINOIS DOES NOT HAVE A DE-ESCALATION STATUTE. What we do have is a "Duty to intervene" Statute which requires an Officer to intervene if he sees another Officer using excessive force. So if You think Grayson drawing his weapon was excessive, then You should be calling for charges against his partner for failing to intervene, which he is Statutorally required to do when he encounters excessive force being used by one of his comrades.

Yea all caps means you're correct. F-ing obnoxious aren't you.

They may not have a de-escalation statute, but you can't escalate for no fucking reason out of nowhere.
 
Tell us more on how she wasn't being detained or held captive at gun point though.....
There wasn't a home invasion, she wasn't being held captive. That's just your emotion, agenda, and uneducated opinion coming out of your ass. I'm not wasting any more time on you, good day Buddy.
 
Yea all caps means you're correct. F-ing obnoxious aren't you.
It didn't sink in the first half dozen times I said it in lower case. So I turned up the volume for some of you dense fucks. And I'm positively correct about Illinois not having a de-escalation Statute.

They may not have a de-escalation statute, but you can't escalate for no fucking reason out of nowhere.
You are ignoring the implied threat she made with an injurious weapon.
 
There wasn't a home invasion, she wasn't being held captive. That's just your emotion, agenda, and uneducated opinion coming out of your ass. I'm not wasting any more time on you, good day Buddy.
You said they needed to force I.D. her because she was a suspect. Its in the thread.

They pointed a gun at her for using words and complying. That came before the "pot lift"

You're done because you can't answer questions that disprove your point. Also, because you don't know what simple words and or concepts.

- Held at gun point= captive
- Saying you're going to shoot somebody in the face then blowing their head off = premeditated
- Dishonorable discharge from the Army due to serious conduct & being booted from 6 departments = An unfit lunatic that matters in both criminal and civil proceedings
- Somebody ordering you in your own home to identify and to not move in any direction from a stove at gunpoint = Invader


Emotional
= you crying about the dangerous pretend "acid" pot of water and simping for a lunatic who blew somebody's head off. Or your cowardly refusal to admit that the points above are factual & not far fetched.

You dont have to agree with it, but to consistently lash out , insult, & pretend like they are made up points is just a cope for your fragile ego. You keep saying you're done but you keep engaging. Just more evidence of you being a dishonest & non-credible individual.
 
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Quote in this thread where I called her a suspect......you can't because you are a disingenuos liar.
You said the cops needed to ID her otherwise how would they know she's not the suspect....

You literally can't use semantics to weasel your way out of this one.

I will quote it & you will spin it & not own it. No need to play that game. This is your justification for the reason to I.D.

@WklySportsMemes if they don't ID her, how can they be sure that she isn't the prowler?

And why did she lie about the car being hers?
Don't turn this into circle talk. Own it. Your own words.
 
So those are the words you are twisting in to


That's why moving forward you will be ignored.
White flag accepted coward. All that to say you still can't explain why she was forced I.D.'ed & are now running away from the supplied quote.

Why was she forced ID'ed then?
Whats your new justification after you now know it kills your other talking points.

Why was she verbally threatened with homicide then gun pulled for a clear kill shot prior to lifting hands & pot overhead?
 
You are ignoring the implied threat she made with an injurious weapon.

There was no threat and she wasn't threatening when the cop pulled his gun.

He took the "rebuke Jesus" statement as some kind of threat because he's a fucking retard.
 
There was no threat and she wasn't threatening when the cop pulled his gun.

He took the "rebuke Jesus" statement as some kind of threat because he's a fucking retard.

Both cops in the room drew their weapons because they felt threatened by her words, actions, demeanor, etc

That Carries more weight than you sitting safely behind a screen claiming there is no threat.
 
Both cops in the room drew their weapons because they felt threatened by her words, actions, demeanor, etc

That Carries more weight than you sitting safely behind a screen claiming there is no threat.

Bullshit. The second cop only did it only after the first retard did it.

And there was no threat. He literally pulled his gun based on a biblical statement. Stop lying. We all have eyes and ears.
 
Me guessing her age wrong doesn't have anything to do with you not understanding that she was being detained and held at gunpoint. Why can't you admit you were dead wrong there?

Wow. She looks much older than that in the video & in the photos. But its a moot point. Age has nothing to do with it other than a public sympathy factor. Same laws & rules apply.
But if she's 36 she's 36...

Here are some facts that also will matter with his trial that you're simple mind isn't accounting for.

-This unstable loser was a dishonorable discharge reject from the Army due to serious misconduct in under 2 years.
- He was bounced from 6 other PDs in 4 years
-Hes a known Alcoholic

Yeah I'm sure none of that will matter in any criminal or civil proceedings. (SARCASM)
Hes going to stay in jail for life & the city better open up their purse......


another sad, shitty, preventable situation.

-she was super sus but those cops did the typical snooping around and trying to extract info like most of them do.

-they didn't need her id they should have just left and she didn't to have to give it to them

-she also clearly threw boiling water at them which is potentially deadly right after saying "rebuke you in the name of jesus" which means she's about to do something

"What does it mean to rebuke you in the name of Jesus?
McJunkins agreed that the phrase is a cultural one that's especially common in Black charismatic church contexts. He said it's typically invoked when something feels out of one's hands, and certainly when there's a sense of the demonic"

-cop seems like a tyrant POS though but POS aren't necessarily guilty of a crime, at least i don't think in this case at least

-ben crump will make millions

-another mentally ill person and or criminal loses their life when they didn't need to

-the left will lie and pretend the boiling pot of water was never thrown and cities will be burned or at least this will be added to the collection of grievances the left will use an excsue to burn, loot, and murder in the future, especially if pressured by politicians like kamala and the shitlib mafia
 
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