What are the weaknesses in RDA's game Woodley is talking about?

Didn't watch the FOX post-show (never do) - did he give any specific examples or is he just talking down his next challenger? Woodley has more weaknesses and flaws off the top of my head. RDA put on a great performance and showcased how good he is at various skills despite being undersized.

Dude is strong as hell and just like the pro's that picked Lawler to win the fight because he was bigger and supposedly stronger, I think Lawler was surprised when he clinched with him how strong he is even coming up from 155.

Diverse solid striking game (boxing can be more accurate), endless cardio, great grappling game from takedowns to top game etc. he showed all of this last fight. I think by round 3 he had landed like 100 strikes and still kept the pace for the championship rounds. That was a great display of cardio for a 170er, can't think of many performances that can match that at that weight.

I wouldn't be surprised if your correct there, it did seem like Lawler was putting more focus on his clinch game than he typically does yet the result was pretty much a stalemate.

I think what we saw here is that the loss to Fergerson is not really that relevant to RDA's current opponents, Tony has amazing cardio that's very often key to his wins(he's more than a little like Pride era Shogun IMHO) but Lawler has never been that kind of fighter and Woodley isn't either.

The biggest unknowns for RDA vs Woodley weren't really on display much in this fight IMHO, that is can he avoid those big fast one off overhands and what is he couldn't to be like up against wrestling offence. Khabib did hold him down in the past but he's a very relentless and active grappler, Woodley is more about timing on off shots and slower control.

That's really what makes this fight interesting, its a very significant unknown.
 
The guy just went 5 rounds on the feet against the biggest psychopath in WW division and came out "unscathed" and you say he has weak boxing defense? I mean he´s no Mayweather , but weak defense?

Lawler had a partially injured knee coming into the fight and completely injured knee by the second round.
 
I'd say probably his chin, he's been clipped a few times, most notably by Jeremy Stephens & Eddie Alvarez. I don't think it's bad, he's taken solid shots before by others and persevered, plus those two have great power and both caught him perfectly. Still he can be touched. He might mean size and defensive wrestling. Although RDA has looked great so far at this weight he still is smaller, and he had been manhandled at 155 by Khabib, so Woodley probably thinks that he can exploit those two things at least when it comes to his own offensive wrestling.
Not having a go at you but when people bring up the stephens fight they forget that it was at UFC 91 lol almost 10 years ago and RDA's ufc debut. I think the fact that rda is super well rounded and has legit good cardio makes for a troublesome matchup for woodley. Unlike wonderboy and maia who are more one dimensional guys, rda is gonna give him a fight instead of relying on avoiding a grappling match with a bjj wizard like maia
 
I wouldn't be surprised if your correct there, it did seem like Lawler was putting more focus on his clinch game than he typically does yet the result was pretty much a stalemate.

I think what we saw here is that the loss to Fergerson is not really that relevant to RDA's current opponents, Tony has amazing cardio that's very often key to his wins(he's more than a little like Pride era Shogun IMHO) but Lawler has never been that kind of fighter and Woodley isn't either.

The biggest unknowns for RDA vs Woodley weren't really on display much in this fight IMHO, that is can he avoid those big fast one off overhands and what is he couldn't to be like up against wrestling offence. Khabib did hold him down in the past but he's a very relentless and active grappler, Woodley is more about timing on off shots and slower control.

That's really what makes this fight interesting, its a very significant unknown.
i just question if woodley can do that over 5 rounds - he cant keep up with RDAs pace, and by round 3 or possibly before they'll both be slippery. i like RDA's chances if woodley cant finish it early. i think the pressure from RDA will get to twood in the later part of the fight and just going for takedowns isn't gonna be enough when rda is pressing the action. his takedown will get significantly slower and less powerful as the fight goes on
 
Lawler had a partially injured knee coming into the fight and completely injured knee by the second round.
is that all u took outta the fight? seriously?
 
The guy just went 5 rounds on the feet against the biggest psychopath in WW division and came out "unscathed" and you say he has weak boxing defense? I mean he´s no Mayweather , but weak defense?

He leaves himself pretty open at times during striking exchanges and especially when he's going for the kill.
 
i just question if woodley can do that over 5 rounds - he cant keep up with RDAs pace, and by round 3 or possibly before they'll both be slippery. i like RDA's chances if woodley cant finish it early. i think the pressure from RDA will get to twood in the later part of the fight and just going for takedowns isn't gonna be enough when rda is pressing the action. his takedown will get significantly slower and less powerful as the fight goes on

Yeah I definitely think the same, if Woodley can't either KO(or at leats badly hurt) RDA standing or control him fairly easily then the fight is in RDA's favour similar to the Rory matchup but with an opponent who arguably has more power standing and finishing ability on the ground as well.

The Alvarez loss to me is rather unfair to judge RDA on as well, he was winning that fight pretty clearly until one big punch and I wouldn't be supprised if he wins it the majority of the time. Generally I think the talent base at 155lbs is still far stronger than at 170lbs, you can see why fighters don't want a size disadvantage but many of them could IMHO be effective higher up.
 
loose, open style, open to counters, mediocre defence.

Same can be said for much of MMA in a boxing sense

but ya

RDA is not without his flaws In his boxing

He can also be taken down and his bottom game Isn't anywhere near his top game
 
Head movement. Woodley has that Night Night right hand and is very good at catching people who moves their head without protecting it.
 
Getting hit a lot by a gassed Lawler is a major one.

People here have such short memories. Woodley wrecked Lawler and avoided a lot of Wonderboys strikes.

How is RDA going to win if Woodley doesn't stand in front of him like Lawler did?
 
Well i mean look what Khabib did to Dos Anjos that was some brutal shit. Dos Anjos looked almost child like in that scenario. Tyron has to be talking about advantage's in the Wrestling department.

That was 2014, and Kabib's wrestling is much scarier then Tyrun's.
 
Head movement. Woodley has that Night Night right hand and is very good at catching people who moves their head without protecting it.

What? RDA has excellent head movement, he's always moving it off the line, and not in a predictable manner either, hell, DC was even talking about that during the fight...now Tyrun's head movement, that's a different story.
 
I'd say probably his chin, he's been clipped a few times, most notably by Jeremy Stephens & Eddie Alvarez. I don't think it's bad, he's taken solid shots before by others and persevered, plus those two have great power and both caught him perfectly. Still he can be touched. He might mean size and defensive wrestling. Although RDA has looked great so far at this weight he still is smaller, and he had been manhandled at 155 by Khabib, so Woodley probably thinks that he can exploit those two things at least when it comes to his own offensive wrestling.
Stephans was hitting a pre-titanium chin RDA. Alvarez only caught him because RDA was already rocked by the floor prior to thr fight due his severe weight cut. If anything, Woodley has shown hd does the chiken dance when he gets hit a bit, and rda just shrvived Lawler.
 
Funny thing is most of RDA’s strengths are Tierawn’s kryptonite... I don’t think Woodley wants this fight after seeing that prolonged beating Robbie got, sure it’s a sexy match up for peeps on Sherdog. But, I’m guessing the champ wants a low risk-high reward fight this time around, I just don’t see any marquee fights now at WW besides GSP .
 
I don't know too much about grappling-- I don't know much about striking either, but more than grappling-- so someone else'll have to cover that, but dos Anjos has shown a historic susceptibility to classic anti-southpaw and anti-Muay Thai strategies. That is, he's vulnerable to an orthodox opponent's right-hand and to checked kicks. That was the entire reason he lost against Eddie and Ferguson.
Eddie kept moving around and kept himself in a good position to land a right-hand (I.E., kept his left-foot on the outside of Rafael's right-foot) throughout the fight, and when he landed it the fight changed. Rafael's really good at "walking his opponent down" and "cutting off the cage" as they say, since he's aware of this vulnerability, so the fact that Eddie was able to do that really says something about Eddie's footwork skill. Nevertheless, you compare that to what Tyron does with his right hand and it's a vulnerability.

And dos Anjos was actually winning the fight against Ferguson until Ferg' checked one of his leg kicks and he just stopped throwing it. That was one of his go-to moves against Ferguson, seeing his chicken legs, and once the check fucked up either his shin or his foot, that was off the table, and the fight turned in Tony's favor. He has pretty average-length arms for his size, so doing stuff like "setting up the kicks with punches" isn't really that simple. If he's outside of range where his punches'll actually land, the guy will be on to what he's doing and predict a kick to the leg, and if he's close enough for it, he's not only more open to a counter-shot because he's so close [and kicks, by their nature, leave you open to counter-shots, since you're standing on one leg unable to move and your hands are down for balance and a little bit of extra weight to throw], but he'd might as well focus on throwing punches since he's already in range.

He started throwing a lot of round kicks to the the body to offset it, since he trains out of EVOLVE with a whole bunch of Muay Thai champions and the round-kick to the body is just as beloved in high-level Muay Thai as kicks to the legs are (which's a sentiment you don't find in shootfighting) and you can't just check a kick to the body like you can one to the leg. But in MMA, a body-kick runs the risk of getting taken down if you're not good enough with 'em. And, of course, against a guy who placed 5th in the NCAA division 1 wrestling tournament, they can see an opening. Rafael throws 'em light and fast and he times 'em out well, and since they're to the body they don't have to be really hard fight-ending shots to do the damage and tire your opponent, so they're not easy to just get a takedown off of, but it's still something someone would see as something to be taken advantage of.

Every style and move has its strengths and faults. A jab is unanimously considered to be the single safest move in all of combat sports, and even it has extremely good ways of countering it badly. dos Anjos doesn't move his head much, but he likes to throw kicks, and head-movement and throwing kicks are two things that really do not go well together (stand on one leg and try to do a bob-and-weave.) The amount of fighters who are known for having great offensive kicking games and good head movement are very little, and the guys are usually very tall for their division (dos Anjos has a good forearm guard, though, and, contrary to popular belief, a forearm guard isn't some impotent move without large gloves and can actually provide a lot of defense.) It's not like those are things you can just change and suddenly you're unbeatable; it's not like you just stop pressing the square button or you press the square button better. If it was that simple, everyone would just change.
You figure out what you're good at doing and what you're comfortable doing, and you adjust accordingly, and you try to figure out back-up tricks or modified versions of your old stuff in case those don't work, and there're thousands of ways to do that.
 
No big deal... they all love to say that... when talking about their next fight .. "i've seen a lot of holes in his game.. " ... its more like an automatic answer...
 
What? RDA has excellent head movement, he's always moving it off the line, and not in a predictable manner either, hell, DC was even talking about that during the fight...now Tyrun's head movement, that's a different story.

He doesn't block good enough while moving his head . RDA definitely has excellent head movement and it's strenght against most fighters. But Thompson has even better head movement and Woodley was able to use it as a weakness. That right hand is just too accurate & powerful. Alvarez was able to capitalize on opening at his head movement & Woodley will do same way.
 
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