What are the best standing submissions apart from guillotine and standing head and ar

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  1. TommyHearns

    TommyHearns Yellow Belt

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    Apart from guillotine, standing head and arm choke and any submissions which you need to bring the opponent to ground to start the submission, what are best standing submissions? So that does not include flying armbars or triangles.
     
  2. Brendon Katz

    Brendon Katz Brown Belt Professional Fighter

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    standin kimura i guess and then maybe wrists locks and stuff . ur talkin bout 4 teh street i guess?
     
  3. Enron Exec.

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    someone behind you you can can straight armbar
     
  4. Oh yeah and on top of that, what are the best ground submissions, besides armbars, chokes, any type of joint manipulation, muscle crank, or anything that makes u tap out? Can anyone think of any?????
     
  5. Shaldag

    Shaldag Orange Belt

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    armpit armbar.
     
  6. Half Boston Crab

    Half Boston Crab Purple Belt

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    Standing RNC or even better standing single wing collar choke with opponent sitting, standing Ezekiel choke. If it's for the street, there's the one hand throat grab, more effective than you might think, finger/wristlocks, standing chicken wing, standing ude gatame (opponents arm on your shoulder and press down on elbow). That's basically it I think.
     
  7. Darkslide632

    Darkslide632 Brown Belt

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    Waki Gatame from standing is lightning fast.
     
  8. Brendon Katz

    Brendon Katz Brown Belt Professional Fighter

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    got anythin worthwhile 2 add o submission god? :icon_evil
     
  9. Brooklyn

    Brooklyn Green Belt

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    Someone doesn't take sarcasm to heart.
     
  10. villasenor

    villasenor boom, *****!!

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    standing kimura, i tried it and it worked.
     
  11. demonx

    demonx Blue Belt

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    Elbow lock.

    Hold their arm out straight (palm up)
    You'll be standing on their outside, facing the same direction.
    Your right hand will be holding their right wrist.
    Your left hand overhooks over the lower part of their bicep, just above the elbow.
    Pull the left arm tight and grab your own clothing.
    Use your right arm to push down their arm which will have an armbar effect, at the same time, twist the arm outwards, so their thumb will be turning towards you and down.

    This is a brutally painful standing armbar/elbow lock. It's called Police elbow lock in our syllibus.
     
  12. Half Boston Crab

    Half Boston Crab Purple Belt

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    Yup, that's right, forgot about that one. From there you can also grab your right wrist with your left hand, to get even more power in the lock (really painful).

    Another option is to (all in one motion) turn quickly to your left, plant a right elbow in his face and take him down with a standing keylock (americana). When you take him down, your right hand should hold his hand, not his wrist , because if you hold the hand you'll put pressure on both his wrist joint and his shoulder/elbow joint. Try it out.
     
  13. Dont cry man, dont cry.
     
  14. phenomfan1529

    phenomfan1529 Brown Belt

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    standing RNC Matt Hughes style :)
     
  15. sha

    sha Geekjitsu Black Belt

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    when you have an underhook, in the same movement you would use to get the underhook (punching up), continue and pull your own hand with your other arm. If he can't bend his arm to escape, and you can get him to bend, this will apply a shoulder lock.

    from an overhook position, overhook near his elbow and pull up with your other hand. Works better if you're taller/stronger than the other guy. This will pull his elbow in and up and have a kimura-like effect on the shoulder and the elbow.
     
  16. swiftman

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    crucifix
     
  17. Ybot

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    Gi players can catch the quick wrist lock if they grab your lapel. Terere tapped a lot of people at a seminar like that, and one of our browns is a killer with that sub.
     
  18. sha

    sha Geekjitsu Black Belt

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    I heard he broke Roger Gracie's wrist with this.
     

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