What are current Aspinall chances in battles with the best HWs in history?

[Bouboumaster]

Fedor and Ngannou stops him

He has a shot against anyone else

 

[JKS]

Based on his skill set and what I've seen the last 5 years, he's capable of beating any HW and I would favor him over most. The only guys I would hesitate to say he beats with confidence Stipe, JDS, and Ngannou.

 

[r-harper-1]

Looks like a bunch of even fights that could go either way

 

[markg171]

According to Sherdog Tom's an unstoppable force who can beat anybody in the world until you pit him against Pride fighters.

Then all of the sudden they say he'd lose fights due to the various weaknesses they admit he actually has.

Rather gives the game away how disingenuous these "fans" are.

 

[HHJ]

It's hard to say since he's not really been tested yet.

But I would say pretty good, overall.

 

[CieloLuce]

Prime Cain vs. this current Aspinall we have seen will lose a dec.

Fedor would win by tko
DC would wrestle Aspinall to a dec or tko.
Aspinall beats Carwin 100% and Lesnar also.
Werdum vs Aspinall would be 50-50.

Aspinall beats JDS(juice version) and CroCop by ko.

Aspinall beats EcoReem and UberReem by ko and I say that as a fan of Alistair.

 

[mkess101]

According to Sherdog Tom's an unstoppable force who can beat anybody in the world until you pit him against Pride fighters.

Then all of the sudden they say he'd lose fights due to the various weaknesses they admit he actually has.

Rather gives the game away how disingenuous these "fans" are.

Get really worked up over hypothetical matches we'll never see!

 

[KungFuCow]

Who do you think truly tests him worldwide? I agree with just about all of your post, but HW is in such a dire state that I can't think of many names Tom can beat (which he hasn't already) to make me place him up there with the greats.

Malykin? Reug Reug? Big Frank is going back to boxing for one last one by the look of it then probably retiring, a win over the lineal champ is the only one that sticks out in my mind, it would mean more than a win over Jon probably would have at the end of the day.

I dont think Malykin could pass a drug test but thats just my opinion.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

I dont think Malykin could pass a drug test but thats just my opinion.

Guy is so red from the lab derived hormones that it's comical

But, in a PRIDE-esque sense like when Fedor was fighting juiceheads, it's certainly a test. Personally, I think Tom slaughters him, but I'd watch it.

 

[arcadeperfect]

Jon and Frank are the only opponents that could have elevated him to that level imo. He could RD1 Gane, Almeida and Lewis over the next 12 months and it would barely do anything to raise his stock and all time standing. The division is just that lacking in big name quality challengers. Hes in a tough position.

Jon and Francis are the only former HW champions that Aspinall could've faced. Most champions get a chance to add legendary names to their resumes by beating former champions. Without that, Tom's resume will simply look like a bunch of contenders which is still good, but it doesn't have that appeal of "beating # former UFC champions." It's a similar problem Mighty Mouse had, since as an inaugural champion that never lost, there weren't any other champions for him to beat.

 

[Tweak896]

Cain: L Prime cain is unstoppable, not sure of Tom's wrestling defense
Fedor: L Prime fedor is just as quick, would expect Fedor to light him up on the feet.
Ngannou: L, I think nightmare matchup for the guy who fought Stipe, monster chin and power that should be cheat codes
Werdum: L, Werdum probably throws low risk moves on feet, and if it hits the mat he's tying up Aspinall.
DC: L, DC is just such a great wrestler, maybe 40 year old DC, Aspinall could beat, but prime DC, Aspinall is on his back the whole fight.
JDS: L, People forget how good JDS was on the feet, wasn't until after Cain maulings he started getting figured out.
Jones: L, Against prime Jones who moves to HW, no chance, better wrestling than DC, even today it's sort of 50/50.
Ubereem: L, Ubereem showed up 1 fight in UFC, I have no doubts if he could've continued beating the tests, no one beats him.
Stipe: W, I don't really think Stipe is crazy good for his wins, Aspinall probably drops him like old Overeem did
Lesnar: L, UFC 100 Brock could takedown anyone and go to ground with Mir, only changing my pick if Aspinall has great cardio or something.
Gane: ?, We'll see soon enough, I'm just going to say 50/50
Carwin: L, In his prime he could KO anyone, had wrestling, and I bet he would muscle Aspinall in clinch, don't think Aspinall could follow JDS plan and outstrike him on the outside.
CroCop: L, CroCop is a nightmare matchup, we're talking prime Cro Cop who couldn't be taken down and KO's everyone. Even Fedor couldn't finish him, doubt Aspinall could win the decision.
Barnett: 50/50, if Aspinall has great TDD, Barnett loses, but if it's just average, Barnett is winning ground battle like he did with Nog. Still probably would be a war.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

He loses to a lot of those guys.

Tom needs to start stacking the W's up before you list him with those guys.

 

[AndrewGolota48]

Lol wtf is Gane doing in there?

As for the rest, i'd slightly favour him over Carwin, who was pretty slow and stationery and had a terrible gas tank, although it wouldnt be without significant risk considering Carwins power and Toms reckless tendencies. I'd also assume he could probably nullify Brocks wrestling enough to catch him standing.

With actual genuine all time elite guys like prime Cain, Fedor, DC, JDS etc its hard to say because his career so far has consisted of easily steamrolling guys who arent at their level. We dont know his ceiling.

Hahaha what makes you assume he could nullify Brock fucking Lesnar's wrestling? The only evidence we have so far is that he got ragfucked by a 225 lb opponent THIRTY POUNDS lighter, so we can now assume that he will handle a 285 lb D1 national champ.

In before his cult says "durrrr it was a long time ago!" Grappling is his BASE and he had been doing it for like 15 years a that point. Brock at the same age and grappling experience that Tom was getting his shit thrown around, was winning national titles. It's called talent and natural proclivities in certain areas.

Jake Shields with 20 years of striking was worse than Ilia with 5, that's just how it goes.

 

[mkess101]

Hahaha what makes you assume he could nullify Brock fucking Lesnar's wrestling? The only evidence we have so far is that he got ragfucked by a 225 lb opponent THIRTY POUNDS lighter, so we can now assume that he will handle a 285 lb D1 national champ.

In before his cult says "durrrr it was a long time ago!" Grappling is his BASE and he had been doing it for like 15 years a that point. Brock at the same age and grappling experience that Tom was getting his shit thrown around, was winning national titles. It's called talent and natural proclivities in certain areas.

Jake Shields with 20 years of striking was worse than Ilia with 5, that's just how it goes.

There he is! It had been like 15 minutes since you'd brought up that decade old fight. I was worried maybe you died. Glad you're alive and still obsessing about fight that has almost zero relevance!

 

[Captain Herb]

Not bad, I'd say he beats most but of course anyone like Velasquez could be a pretty big problem if he doesn't pull a JDS 1

 

[BowserJr]

Current Asp vs peak Cain, Fedor, Ngannou, Werdum, DC, JDS, Jones, Ubereem, Stipe, Lesnar, Gane, Carwin, CroCop, Barnett?

I personally favor him clearly only over Lesnar (didnt like to be hit), Barnett (bad striking) and maybe Carwin.

Great question. I'd add peak Mir, Tim, Nog, AA to this list

Cain- I think he drops him like Kongo but doesn't let him recover
Fedor probably KOs Tom

Werdum- very tough call. Werdum is a better grappler but Tom is a better boxer. Both good enough to defend well vs the others strength. 50/50

DC- DC main advantage was speed at HW But Tom actually seems faster and he may not be easily controlled on the ground like most of DC HW opponents. 50/50

JDS- likely catches Tom

Jones- Would not be surprised if Jon wins. It would be Jones toughest challenge for sure. Jones did very poorly vs slightly smaller much lesser fighters for the simple reason that they had less reach disadvantage while having good enough grappling defense. Tom is bigger and better than those guys. 60/40 Tom

Ubereem- Ubreem never got KOed in MMA but he did in K1. I think Tom could catch him. But if it goes to a clinch an Uber knee could finish it. 60/40 Tom

Stipe- Good enough grappling defense to stay on the feet and good chin and boxing. 50/50

Ngannou- probably finds Tom's chin unless Tom has some crazy wrestling skill we haven't seen yet
Lesnar- KOed
Barnett- KOed
Carwin- likely KOed (not a great chin) unless he lands a miracle shot himself
Gane- likely gets dropped and subbed
Crocop- If Tom tries to box him CC via LHK. Tom is seems to have decent fight IQ so I see him using a similar strategy as JDS

Nog- likely weathers an early storm with his god chin and it becomes a crazy grappling match. Tom via decision?

Mir would be super interesting cuz he's like a better version of Mir
Tim- probably similar to the Fedor fight
AA- probably lasts longer than the real fight we saw. aa Likely rocks Tom at some point but Tom finds his chin eventually

 

[Aurelian]

I'll play. Not going to think too deeply into these match-ups though.

Cain, Fedor, Ngannou, Werdum, DC, JDS, Jones, Ubereem, Stipe, Lesnar, Gane, Carwin, CroCop, Barnett?

Cain - Loss
Ngannou - Loss
DC - Loss
JDS - Loss
Stipe - Loss
Werdum - Win
Ubereem - Win
Lesnar - Win
Gane - Win
Carwin - Win
CroCop - Win
Barnett - Win


7-5 record.

For Fedor, I'm actually leaning Tom but it's probably 50/50 here.

 

[NextGen]

Aspinall beats any HW past and present. I'd put money on that.

Nobody in the history of MMA had that combination of size + speed + power like Aspinall does. Factor in that he's very well-rounded and you have the HW GOAT in the making.

Time will prove this correct when he continues to starch everyone he fights.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Hahaha what makes you assume he could nullify Brock fucking Lesnar's wrestling?

He has to nullify it for a few minutes across a 5 rounder, with all rounds starting standing too. How big of a stand up window do you figure someone with Toms power, range and striking ability would need to send Brock into orbit?

 

[Harlekin]

Skill wise I'd favor him over all of them.
Just need to see his chin and cardio.