http://youtu.be/ngRq8cnl14g here is a vid of the west point ride,a submission/control tech that is awesome every since i saw this on yoshiaki fujiwaras catch wrestling dvd i been using it alot ...do you guys have any expirence with it or are you familiar with it!??
yeah i use a slight variation of this technique in greco, it's a good technique but i would consider a low risk low reward technique
Kurt Osiander showed it a while back as his move of the week. He didn't use it for a submission, but rather for a back take. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDJZ6A6EEMs&list=UUtmoqK-8MPiq4Vs_X2deDbg&index=75 EDIT: Also, now that I think about it, my instructor taught us the move for a back take a while back too. If I remember correctly, it works really well to get people out of turtle and get your hooks in.