Weight bullies

NikLuk said:
Maybe on the scale, but I don’t think any of them had this happening to them:

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Khabib would look a lot more normal if he fought 175-pounders. He wouldn't get takedowns as easily.
 
Lee_ said:
The idea of weight bullies is in large part a Sherdog construct based on unfounded assumptions. The exception would be when it is wildly obvious, such as the way Alex towers over Izzy with a similar frame shape (in other words he isn't taller but skinnier, just taller). Even in that instance, it is something for the UFC to fix given it is within the rules.
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I'm an Alex fan, but seeing him next to Strickland was comedic. Sean getting up on his tippy toes to look Alex in the eyes, he's definitely a weight bully at 185, but it's obvious that the cut had very detrimental effects on his durability, so I'm glad he made the choice to go up to 205, will be much healthier for him.

Guys like Khabib, Khamzat, etc are obvious bullies. Rumble, God rest his soul, at 170 when you see him fighting Arlovski later in his career is the most egregious example, as I can't recall a fighter going up 100lbs in divisions and winning.
However, there is one undisputed King of the weight bullies: Gleison Tibau
Gleison Tibau walked around at up to 220lbs and fought at 155. For reference, during camps, Yoel Romero is around up to 225 before his weight cut. When Tibau had to fight Evan Dunham at UFC 156, he weighed 66lbs over the lightweight limit, and still had 17lbs to cut on weigh in day, which he made. This is Gleison before and after his weight cut at UFC 164
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Not even Conor and the whole of Dagestan has anything on this weight cutting beast. Pay attention to the calves.
Tibau's coaches revealed how he cuts so much weight:
“During the fight week, he works on the technical part with striking coach Luciano ‘Macarrao’ and jiu-jitsu coach Marcos da Matta, but also maintenance the aerobic workouts to help weight loss together with a dietary restriction of solid foods and an increase in fluid intake ranging from six to eight liters per day (distilled water) — or water with zero percent sodium — for a period of two days after gradually reducing the water,” Dias said. “This causes the body to eliminate more water and not retain anything in the moments prior to weighing.”

As soon as Tibau hits the scale at 155, he starts to get the water back into his body.

“After this brief recovery, he eats light food which is quickly absorbed, like bananas, grapes, fruit salad, as well as Vitamin Water or Gatorade,” Dias says. “The weigh-in usually occurs late into the night and the athlete is already semi-recovered. We continue with the intake of low-fat foods that are rich in carbohydrates every two hours, and also make shakes with added glutamine, dextrose, maltodextrin and vitamins to obtain a super compensation carbohydrate and assist in performance the athlete. We also add calcium pills, potassium and magnesium due to dehydration to avoid cramps on fight time.”
Interestingly, the only time Tibau missed weight was when his opponents also missed weight and a catch weight was initiated at 158 and 157lbs against Jeremy Stephens and Josh Neer, respectively.
 
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NikLuk said:
No. The fighters on that list didn’t usually lose before the end of the 1st round most times. They actually usually won fights as is demonstrated by their records.
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Christ on a cross, it's not even worth arguing with you. Obviously I'm not talking about every single fighter I listed.
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markg171 said:
This is as stupid as saying you're a "gym bully" because you've mastered being stronger than other people and you shouldn't be allowed to be stronger than your opponent.

If you can successfully do something you're not a bully. You're a master.

But by all means sure, let's change the term to something like weight class abuser to instead specifically mean people who stick to weight classes they can't actually consistently make, yet stick around because they're not being forced up.
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So let me get this correct, if you are successful, lets say, at beating the shit out of 5 year old girls, you're not a bully you're a master?
 
VinceArch said:
Rumble Johnson
Jose Aldo
Conor McGregor
James Irvin
Renan Barao
Joanna Jedrzejczyk
TJ Dillashaw
John Lineker
Johny Hendricks
Anthony Pettis

10 fighters that all looked a hell of a lot more worse on the scale than Khabib ever did.
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He looks amazing.. totally made weight.
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Luvhawky said:
Is he a weight bully or just a pig when he isn't in camp? This is coming from a pig...
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I think there's a difference between someone who is chubby (Kelvin Gastelum or DC for example) and someone who weight bullies.

Kelvin's frame is small even for WW yet he can't even make WW.
 
For the most part the whole weight bully thing is just an easy way for people to hate on fighters they don't like. A fighter will make weight and dumb fans will call them a weight bully as if they don't expect there to be size discrepancies when they actually step in the cage

Obviously if making the weight becomes a reoccuring issue that is a completely different story but often times fighters are labeled as weight bullies despite never missing weight.. it's bizarre
 
VinceArch said:
Christ on a cross, it's not even worth arguing with you. Obviously I'm not talking about every single fighter I listed.
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I’m not a mind reader. I can only engage with what you actually write. If you can’t write what you mean more clearly, I agree, it’s not worth arguing with me.
 
Khabib is totally big enough to move up to WW to fight guys like Shavkat.
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Missing weight has nothing to do with raw size. Some peoples bodies just respond better to cutting weight like Conor who is the same size as Khabib and cut down to FW, a true weight bully and expert weight cutter.
 
Welterskelter said:
You either regain 20lbs more than your opponent or you don't.
I kind of disagree. I've seen times where "they both made weight" does not equate to a level playing field come fight time. I'm not crying foul or fighter hating, but it's reasonable to point out the disparity if it exists. Every factor counts in a fight, and if it's problematic, I would blame the rules not the fighter.
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People arent really just pointing out the disparity if it exists,they are crying foul and fighter hating. Most fighters are cutting weight,but people like to pretend otherwise.

No one really cared that Rumble cut insane amounts of weight at WW. They only would have cared if he stayed dominant there for years and crushed their favorite fighters. It's always selective,rather than some campaign against "weight bullying" in general.

"Its OK if you do it like Tibau etc,just so long as you arent successful and win a belt or some shit,dont you DARE do that"
 
BEATDOWNS said:
Worse term weight bullies or rank squatters?
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Rank squatters has always been dumber as the ranks are voted upon by media.

If people are still voting Stipe the #2 HW 2 years after Ngannou KO'd him with no fights since then how's that Stipe's fault?
 
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