Weidman never proved he's better than Silva.

[Oris79]

Silva was past his prime in their first fight.
Silva lost the first fight due to showboating and not taking the fight seriously.
Silva lost the second fight due to a freak leg kick.

These three factors make Weidman's wins against Silva dubious at best.
I still contend that a focused, prime Silva circa 2010 destroys Weidman.

Love,
Oris79

 

[StewDogg11]

And whose fault was that for Silva’s showboating and not taking it seriously?

 

[Corrado Soprano]

Chris Weidman is not better than Silva but he’s still my boy.

 

[StewDogg11]

Also nobody prefight was saying Silva was past his prime. He looked the exact same as he always did. Lackluster TDD, dancing around like a moron, throwing naked leg kicks, etc. All three finally bit him in the ass in the Weidman fights.

 

[Oris79]

And whose fault was that for Silva’s showboating and not taking it seriously?

It was SIlva's. He denied Weidman a clear win by goofing off like a clown. I'm glad he lost that first fight - I just wish we could have seen a focused Silva.

 

[kahymo]

Silva proved how stupid he was

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Silva was past his prime in their first fight.
Silva lost the first fight due to showboating and not taking the fight seriously.
Silva lost the second fight due to a freak leg kick.

These three factors make Weidman's wins against Silva dubious at best.
I still contend that a focused, prime Silva circa 2010 destroys Weidman.

Love,
Oris79

welcome to sherdog.

you can do better than this.

 

[Mike]

It was SIlva's. He denied Weidman a clear win by goofing off like a clown. I'm glad he lost that first fight - I just wish we could have seen a focused Silva.

He was serious. He was seriously getting his ass kicked, that's WHY he was taunting so much.

 

[jx820]

Silva lost the first fight due to a knockout.
Silva lost every minute of the second fight

Fixed a few things for you.

 

[linvillegorge]

Silva has the greater legacy based on body of work and you can definitely make the argument that Anderson was past his prime when he faced Weidman and that he would've beat him had he been in his prime but that's an unprovable hypothetical argument. The reality is that Weidman beat the fuck out of Anderson Silva twice. That's what we know for sure.

 

[Leonard Haid]

Finally, after 10 years, someone creates a thread about this....what took so long is the question...

 

[HHJ]

What was your previously banned account and let us know what the next one will be called?

 

[bean88]

I was a HUGE Silva fan but this is hilarious a decade on <45>

 

[Dorkman]

You can mental gymnastics the topic all you want but Anderson is always going to be 0-2 Vs Weidman

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

While Weidman got the win legitimately, I will still say that I highly doubt he would have beat him if Silva wasn't putting on one of the most unforgivably dumb performances in mma history.

I seriously cannot think of a more embarrassing loss than that and it is a massive blotch on Anderson's resume. Years later, Anderson put on another one of the worst performances I have ever seen again against Bisping in yet another "deserved to lose but result was still baffling" showing which again sounds a lot better on paper for Bisping than it was in reality. People will argue that "Anderson clowned all the time" but it was absolutely never on this level when fighting someone with actual power; he sure as shit didn't try that against Vitor or Henderson.

While Weidman "deserved the win", I still think time has proven that he was never some "new breed" fighter and was much more of a "right place at the right time" champion whose resume really didn't age well at all. Every single one of his defenses was against someone past their prime (Vitor's body seriously looked like a used condom in that fight) and all of those guys were beaten more decisively before and after he beat them. Then the minute he started facing more contemporary competition, he started losing badly.

Weidman = decently well rounded fighter with somewhat suspect cardio and honestly not that much heart. While he will live in history for being the one to end Anderson's streak, he is not a top 5 all time MW IMHO (but that doesn't exactly make him a Matt Serra fluke either). Anderson = much better fighter but one who was definitely proven to have mental lapses in the cage (like Werdum who has also had some unforgivable losses)

 

[13Seconds]

What was your previously banned account and let us know what the next one will be called?

Gotta be that dude who had shit ton of intel about ATT. Can't remember his username but he was around for awhile and pissed alot of people off over the years. This thread is his style. Probably him

 

[Laheys'Liquorland]

Teh Chris was never that good.......as everyone made him out to be.
I agree OP.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Sorry, OP.

But Weidman did exactly that.

Anderson Silva became too "in love with himself" by the time he met Weidman.
Silva's "self-love" was his downfall — as it was again.

I understand what your point is, that a fully-concentrated, young, humble, Anderson Silva would have likely prevailed. But that is just pure speculation.

The reality is, Anderson Silva had the exact same time to prepare and train for BOTH events, and he failed in both.

It's not Weidman's fault; Weidman did what he needed to do.

All of the deficits you perceive, are the result of Anderson Silva's failure to take this fight as seriously as he should have. And the next one.

 

[Chalky White]

Can’t really make excuses for Silva, he lost, that’s all that matters.

Ultimately, nobody but diehard American fans will remember Weidman, while Silva will always be regarded highly, so Silva fans can take solace in knowing that. No need to make excuses, though, he lost.

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

Silva was past his prime in their first fight.
Silva lost the first fight due to showboating and not taking the fight seriously.
Silva lost the second fight due to a freak leg kick.

These three factors make Weidman's wins against Silva dubious at best.
I still contend that a focused, prime Silva circa 2010 destroys Weidman.

Love,
Oris79

The Chris has 2 wins and 0 losses against him. End thread.