We will never make America great again with junkies and homeless people on the streets

More junkies and homeless is the goal tho bro
 
Broadcast said:
Never seen as many homeless, drunks and begging in Vegas for example. I found it much worse every time. It seems 10 times worse than normal. Wasn"t like that in the 80's and 90's. Over a half of a million people are homeless in the US and it"s growing. I have not seen junkies in Europe.
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What is your plan to deal with them?
 
You’re proposing that we give every American guaranteed housing? I like the idea, it’s probably not much more expensive than managing the cost of their homelessness in the long run.
 
this approach of providing shelter for homeless folk will also need to be supported by an army of mental health professionals.

many of these indigent folk are homeless because of certa
BEER said:
The predictable "vote Republican" dorks don't seem to realize they're supporting the party that actively blocks and stands against higher social spending.

The bootstraps aren't real, and you're never going to be wealthy. If you want to see less homelessness, you need to get behind policies that help the homeless. Or if you prefer charity, convince your billionaire heroes to solve the problem.

If Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos teamed up to donate 15,000 dollars per person to house and feed the homeless, it would cost them 3.75 billion each. A drop in the bucket. If more billionaires teamed up, it could cut the cost dramatically. Take 5 ultra-wealthy Americans and they could even increase the amount of charity while paying less per person.

But since the ultra wealthy prefer to hoard money and do literally nothing to help the destitute, it's about time we increase the spending necessary to help our most vulnerable brothers and sisters.

Edit: Just did the math. If the top 15 American billionaires decided to provide housing and food worth 25,000 dollars a year to every homeless person in America, it would cost them less than a billion dollars a year. They almost certainly owe more than that in taxes they used loopholes to evade at every turn, and it would be a drop in the very large buckets of their wealth.

Conservatives love the idea of using charity and excess capital to help people. If they reject the need to tax the ultra-wealthy, they should be encouraging those ultra-wealthy to end homelessness and poverty through charity.

But we all know that the same people who reject progressive taxes and preach charity are the same ones who sheepishly say "sorry, I don't have any spare change", or simply ignore the people in need.

Gladly drop a fiver for the church, though.
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This isn't actually a bad approach.

this approach of providing shelter for homeless folk will also need to be supported by an army of mental health professionals.

many of these indigent folk are homeless because of certain mental problems.

maybe this magnates could fork over 2 billion per year.
 
The overall problem is the worsening marginalization and our collective refusal to do anything about it. There is obviously strong overlap btwn junkies, the homeless, the mentally ill, violent criminals, minimum wagers, the undereducated etc. We’re long overdue in seriously addressing the biggest issue that has been allowed to fester for far too long in a country that prides itself on exceptionalism.

In addition to a societal shift of thinking, it would take a “New Deal” type of unified effort to put a noticeable dent in the overall problem. IMO, significantly reducing military expenditures and redirecting the funding into the social welfare of the citizens themselves would be a good start. Same goes for reducing the big money influence in politics as much as possible (superPACs etc). The corporatization of our political system and the intentional masking of the economic inequality by said system is the driving factor behind the worsening wealth disparity in this country and all the ills that come with it.

We have to heavily invest resources into the overall infrastructure, into impoverished communities, and the less well-to-do rather than bolstering and bailing out big banks and transcontinental companies in the hopes that their prosperity trickles down the socioeconomic ladder. Its illogical thinking and we’ve been indoctrinated to believe that its the more beneficial method than directly addressing the other end of the spectrum. Its mindboggling that for so long, we’ve just accepted the rationale behind the “War on Drugs” and the “Tough on Crime” platforms when its obviously addressing a symptom rather than a cause, especially when almost all of our social ills can be said to partly stem from that same cause. Its the macro-equivalent to taking blood pressure meds without fixing your diet. FFS, homelessness is literally a result of poverty. And crime, drug usage, mental illness, undereducation ALL significantly correlate with poverty. Logic would dictate that the answer is clear.
 
drstrangelov said:
You’re proposing that we give every American guaranteed housing? I like the idea, it’s probably not much more expensive than managing the cost of their homelessness in the long run.
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NIMBY
 
I agree that the bum crisis is growing, but I'm honestly not sure what can be done about it. These individuals have decided that living on the street is more to their liking than holding a job and paying rent. There are some outliers but most of the homeless in my city are under 40 years old and able bodied.
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
seriously though -- the prevalence of homeless per capita of the EU is nearly the exact same as the US. Its not just the eastern nations bumping up that stat. Germany and France have higher numbers per capita (homeless per night) and even the nordic countries have comparable stats. Even Australia and Canada have similar numbers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homeless_population
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Different countries often use different definitions of homelessness, making direct comparisons of numbers complicated.

Those stats come with a disclaimer!

It's not surprising:

New Zealand has the highest rate of homelessness in the developed countries.... 12th highest overall for that list (tho it's not full).

As an Australian I want it to be true just for the lulz but i think you should take those stats with a grain of salt.
 
drstrangelov said:
You’re proposing that we give every American guaranteed housing? I like the idea, it’s probably not much more expensive than managing the cost of their homelessness in the long run.
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My man.

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MaxMMA said:
I agree that the bum crisis is growing, but I'm honestly not sure what can be done about it. These individuals have decided that living on the street is more to their liking than holding a job and paying rent. There are some outliers but most of the homeless in my city are under 40 years old and able bodied.
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Swing and a miss.

You didn't even account for the 25% who are children. How are they supposed to get jobs and bootstraps?

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Broadcast said:
Never seen as many homeless, drunks and begging in Vegas for example. I found it much worse every time. It seems 10 times worse than normal. Wasn"t like that in the 80's and 90's. Over a half of a million people are homeless in the US and it"s growing. I have not seen junkies in Europe.
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yeah... you should round them all up and put them in camps, that'll fix the problem.

no more human graffiti to bother little old you


edit: also Im from Scotland, Ive seen plenty of junkies I can confirm are European
 
Ichibanner said:
Democrats having long-running control of major cities is the biggest hurdle. The two party system sucks but look to Detroit, Newark, St. Louis, or Baltimore to see what single party Democratic rule gets you.
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If right wingers were given ultimate authority to fix the homelessness problem it would turn out to you guys exterminating them.

The ACTUAL solutions to this problem you guys call socialism
 
whougonnacall said:
In europe they do the common sense thing and supply them with cheap flats to live in and just enough to live on
Small price to pay for them not being on the streets annoying people begging , shitting/pissing/puking on property , taking up police time when they act up/begin shouting at the voices , commiting petty crimes , wandering into trafic , blocking small buisnessmen from opening up and/or scaring their customers away
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USSR had an even cheaper cost effective way and they never reproduced either. They went to camp....
 
Broadcast said:
Never seen as many homeless, drunks and begging in Vegas for example. I found it much worse every time. It seems 10 times worse than normal. Wasn"t like that in the 80's and 90's. Over a half of a million people are homeless in the US and it"s growing. I have not seen junkies in Europe.
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If they are not on the streets where are you going to put them? Garbage bins? Mulchers?
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tonni said:
Typical bold USA lies. You both should be ashamed of yourselves.
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Everyone fucking lies. We have the superior firepower and extra GIRTH to make you believe us. But we ain't buying yo bullshit
 
Ichibanner said:
Democrats having long-running control of major cities is the biggest hurdle. The two party system sucks but look to Detroit, Newark, St. Louis, or Baltimore to see what single party Democratic rule gets you.
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Yeah, and look at all the Republican ran major cities that had high crime rates, to say nothing of how Republican legislatures run state budgets, and the states themselves. You know, since state policy kind of influences how cities within that state run.

Maybe city life, poverty and people living in increasing proximity to each other might feed more into an adult assessment than "The demz destroy cities where they go!!"
 
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