We officially went back to 2004 with the Heavyweight division

[Sms_productions713]

Look, its a fact its a form of blatant ducking on jones part. However, lets not try to pretend the heavyweight division is good.

Now i know why everyone keeps saying " but Aspinall finished 5 of the top 10 heavyweights" thats like arlovski bragging that he defended his title vs justin Eilers and Paul buentello, or frank mir beating wes sims and tank abbot to get a shot.

This division is trash, and we all know its trash. Call it ducking or whatever, but dont try and spin the narrative like beating pavelich and tybura means any damn thing.

You all know damn well if the heavyweight division was what it used to be at its peak, that all these guys would be top 15-20. Be honest with yourselves like Jones was with the LHW division... it became trash, and he was becoming the 2004 arlovski and sylvia run, beating the OSP and anthony smith's of the world.

It's hard trying to turn Chicken Shit, into Chicken salad with this division

 

[cade187]

 

[PaddyO'malley]

Fake account

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

2004 Frank Mir would have beaten Jon Jones last night

 

[Hotei]

I don't know man, HW division has been looking terrible for like 10 years now...even more maybe.

 

[NextGen]

Disagree. A guy like Aspinall could beat any MMA HW that has ever lived.

Nobody had that combination of speed/athleticism + power + strength at this size. Add the well-rounded skillset and you're looking at a potential HW GOAT in the making.

Is this current HW division the deepest? No, but it's top heavy with a few guys who can beat anyone from the past.

Shame Ngannou is no longer with the UFC. It would've been exciting as hell if he was still here.

 

[CieloLuce]

The HW division is full of fat, slow plodding, and sloppy strikers. It literally is the worst in years.

 

[Robholland]

I miss JDS, Cain, Overeem, Nganou, Werdum etc.

 

[Sms_productions713]

I don't know man, HW division has been looking terrible for like 10 years now...even more maybe.

Thats my point. Each year has gotten worse and worse

 

[Sms_productions713]

The HW division is full of fat, slow plodding, and sloppy strikers. It literally is the worst in years.

Which is worsein your opinion? Now, or when pride had all the good heavyweights?

 

[Duck Dodgers]

2004 Frank Mir would have beaten Jon Jones last night

In the Octagon or in a hallway?

 

[CieloLuce]

Which is worsein your opinion? Now, or when pride had all the good heavyweights?

I can't imagine what those Pride guys in their prime would do to these HW. I still think Jones, Aspinall, Stipe would be ranked if (Stipe)was in his 30's. Gane would be a fringe top ten because of his lack of grappling skills.

 

[HHJ]

I wish that were true.

Fedor's reign was in full FX

Glorious times.

 

[Dr Brian Pepper]

Disagree. A guy like Aspinall could beat any MMA HW that has ever lived.

Nobody had that combination of speed/athleticism + power + strength at this size. Add the well-rounded skillset and you're looking at a potential HW GOAT in the making.

Is this current HW division the deepest? No, but it's top heavy with a few guys who can beat anyone from the past.

Shame Ngannou is no longer with the UFC. It would've been exciting as hell if he was still here.

"could beat any HW" is such a stupid thing to say

like no shit genius that is HW in a nutshell

 

[NextGen]

"could beat any HW" is such a stupid thing to say

like no shit genius that is HW in a nutshell

That wasn't all that I said. I added that he has all the makings to potentially become the HW GOAT.

Will he? Time will tell.

 

[Dr Brian Pepper]

That wasn't all that I said. I added that he has all the makings to potentially become the HW GOAT.

Will he? Time will tell.

right i responded to the stupid part of it lol

 

[NextGen]

right i responded to the stupid part of it lol

That part was in the context of him potentially becoming the greatest ever, though. I was simply saying that he'd match up well stylistically with anyone from the past or present.

 

[Dr Brian Pepper]

That part was in the context of him potentially becoming the greatest ever, though. I was simply saying that he'd match up well stylistically with anyone from the past or present.

any top HW could beat anyone on any given night...that is the nature of HW which is why it is a dumb thing to say lol

 

[WokeWarrior]

Oh Hush up. when we had francis yall didnt have his back and aint nobody said nothing when dana was messing with francis
in fact yall were cheering dana on to get rid of francis....you guys didnt care about making
no mega heavyweight fights between jon jones and francis .... i know this cause the ufc ncels
went to attacking them instead of Dana... so i dont wanna hear nothing..

either pay jon jones or he will leave and you will get tom aspinall as champ...

now you weirdos are simpin for dana white and trying to diminish jon jones value
proving you guys dont get it.

 

[NextGen]

any top HW could beat anyone on any given night...that is the nature of HW which is why it is a dumb thing to say lol

Yea but you're ignoring the context lol.

Sure, someone like Derrick Lewis (example) could potentially beat anyone on any given night if he can land clean. But the chances of that are low...and even lower would be his chances of becoming HW GOAT.

Aspinall has a pretty decent chance of actually doing both of those things.