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Opinion Washington Post - Gutted

LMAO, why would you expect a youtuber to get actually access to any of these types of facilities or financials. You guys really need to grow up.
Nick Shirley can't get access to a daycare and the far right whines and claims conspiracy.

Elected democratic officals and religious leaders can't access immigration detention centers to do welfare checks and provide spiritual services - silence and if anything, joy.
 
Hey man when a guy with a camera and a masked crew showed up at an infant daycare they weren't allowed inside. Must be a fraud.

And you know what? I can't even be mad at Nick. Hes a young kid wanting to do shit to make a name for himself. What is fucking bizarre are the people that ran with his story saying he uncovered BILLIONS in fraud.... Because he walked up to some store fronts that were closed, thats literally it.

Like what..?

You want some fraud? You want to know where BILLIONS of your taxpaying dollars went to? Look into the PPP loans during covid, that daddy Trump OK'd. Now THAT is some fucking vile fraud. ALL the restaurants in my area qualified for millions of dollars from these loans and they did what with it? Not a fucking thing.
 
And you know what? I can't even be mad at Nick. Hes a young kid wanting to do shit to make a name for himself. What is fucking bizarre are the people that ran with his story saying he uncovered BILLIONS in fraud.... Because he walked up to some store fronts that were closed, thats literally it.

Like what..?

You want some fraud? You want to know where BILLIONS of your taxpaying dollars went to? Look into the PPP loans during covid, that daddy Trump OK'd. Now THAT is some fucking vile fraud. ALL the restaurants in my area qualified for millions of dollars from these loans and they did what with it? Not a fucking thing.
that’s really going a long way to say your vagina hurts because people are talking about the fraud in minnesota. weird flex.
 
LMAO, why would you expect a youtuber to get actually access to any of these types of facilities or financials. You guys really need to grow up.

It's pathetic that it took a Youtuber to finally put a spotlight in it. There is obvious bullshit going on.

We already know for a fact that the initial daycare center in the video, Quality Learing, is full of shit.

State commissioner, Tikki Brown, of the Minnesota Department of Children said the Learing Center was permanently closed by them a week before.


Then the supposed manager, Ibrahim Ali, comes in a day after Shirley's video goes viral and defends himself in front of the press with a photo op of a mother bringing her children in.

 
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The readership crashed long before Bezos "spiked" the endorsement of Harris, or any of the other changes. Those changes were made because the newspaper was failing, not the other way around.

Turns out that pinning your newspaper's identity to hate-porn obsessing over a single political personality isn't a sustainable business model. Who'd have thunk it?
So how come the NYT is still kicking around? They're certainly not less critical of Trump than WaPo.
 
Are any of the big newspapers doing well? I used to love reading my local paper, had subscriptions for decades. In my old hometown, we'd get the Ottawa Sun (more conservative) and Citizen (more Liberal) but not long after getting the first galaxy Note, a massive screen at the time, it was just easier to get news that way. There were no paid subs online at the time too.

I'll still pick up the Toronto Star from time to time, takes me back.
 
It's pathetic that it took a Youtuber to finally put a spotlight in it.

And we already know for a fact that the initial daycare center in the video, Quality Learing, is full of shit.

State commissioner, Tikki Brown, of the Minnesota Department of Children said the Learing Center was permanently closed by them a week before.


Then the supposed manager, Ibrahim Ali, comes in a day after Shirley's video goes viral and defends himself in front of the press with a photo op of a mother bringing her children in.



So there is obvious bullshit going on.

I don't know how much research Shirley did, as the old guy he was rolling with seemed to be the one who did the leg work/spent a long time trying to expose it. Regardless, he blew that fraud story wide open.

A lot of kudos for how viral it got has to go to the morons that made that "Learing" sign, and the idiots in charge for not noticing the error.

On top of all the other examples of fraud that came out, it goes to show how easy it was to make bank. Their tracks were poorly covered.

I appreciate a good hustle, but you know those Somali's didn't do it without help from the real crooks who signed off on it, and helped them commit fraud.

Hopefully the ongoing investigations produce some notable consequences for the real culrits, but If the Epstein disaster is anything to go by, nothing will come from it.
 
So how come the NYT is still kicking around? They're certainly not less critical of Trump than WaPo.
Probably because they're diversifying into non-news digital subscriptions, probably because their coverage outside the Op-Eds is less obnoxious, and probably because they didn't do stupid goth-teenager-end-of-the-world-angsty shit like throw up a "Democracy Dies in Darkness" banner across the top of every page.

In any case, the NYT isn't the WaPo, so attempting to divert attention with a "whatabout?!!!" doesn't contradict the very simple truth I highlighted about the timing of the decline in the WaPo's readership.
 
Probably because they're diversifying into non-news digital subscriptions, probably because their coverage outside the Op-Eds is less obnoxious, and probably because they didn't do stupid goth-teenager-end-of-the-world-angsty shit like throw up a "Democracy Dies in Darkness" banner across the top of every page.
In what way is their coverage outside of op-eds less obnoxious? Conservatives have been claiming that the NYT is the leading light of liberal journalism for decades, but suddenly it's now WaPo?

Democracy Dies in Darkness was signed off by Bezos. Never mind that the Times has "All the news that's fit to print" plastered on every edition, which is a far more cringy line.
In any case, the NYT isn't the WaPo, so attempting to divert attention with a "whatabout?!!!" doesn't contradict the very simple truth I highlighted about the timing of the decline in the WaPo's readership.
It's quite relevant. You argued that WaPo is struggling because it's focsed on criticizing the Trump adminsitration. Yet the NYT does it far more vocally and is doing ok enough. Plainly the linchpin of what makes or breaks a modern newspaper isn't critical articles of Trump or his ilk.

This is almost as bad as the last time we talked about the WaPo and you insisted on quoting journalism texts and writers that you plainly never read.
 
Democracy Dies in Darkness was signed off by Bezos. Never mind that the Times has "All the news that's fit to print" plastered on every edition, which is a far more cringy line.
You just analogized the "Democracy Dies in Darkness" banner, rolled out less than a month after Trump began his first term as President, to the more-vanilla-than-elevator-music "All the news that's fit to print", and yet the obnoxiousness of partisan tilts eludes you. Observe my lack of surprise.
It's quite relevant. You argued that WaPo is struggling because it's focused on criticizing the Trump adminsitration. Yet the NYT does it far more vocally and is doing ok enough. Plainly the linchpin of what makes or breaks a modern newspaper isn't critical articles of Trump or his ilk.
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I pointed out that their subscription struggles predated Bezos "neutering" the paper in what your ilk speculates to be an overture to Trump. That was done because subscriptions were cratering, not the other way around, derpiederp. The comment about hate-porn not being a sustainable business model is a commentary on the "Trump slump" of their readership crashing after Biden's election. "Daily users fell from over 22 million during the peak in Jan 2021 to 2.5–3 million by summer 2024." That's before the rescinded endorsement. They pinned their identity on hating Trump. So, it turns out, when Trump wasn't on full WH press corps blast every day, suddenly, they didn't have a business.

Zero reading comprehension. Again, observe my lack of surprise.
 
You just analogized the "Democracy Dies in Darkness" banner, rolled out less than a month after Trump began his first term as President, to the more-vanilla-than-elevator-music "All the news that's fit to print", and yet the obnoxiousness of partisan tilts eludes you. Observe my lack of surprise.
You can't even elucidate what makes WaPo more partisan than NYT, other than whining about a marketing department banner. Again, how is WaPo more biased than the Times?
I pointed out that their subscription struggles predated Bezos "neutering" the paper in what your ilk speculates to be an overture to Trump. That was done because subscriptions were cratering, not the other way around, derpiederp. The comment about hate-porn not being a sustainable business model is a commentary on the "Trump slump" of their readership crashing after Biden's election. "Daily users fell from over 22 million during the peak in Jan 2021 to 2.5–3 million by summer 2024." That's before the rescinded endorsement. They pinned their identity on hating Trump. So, it turns out, when Trump wasn't on full WH press corps blast every day, suddenly, they didn't have a business.

Zero reading comprehension. Again, observe my lack of surprise.
No one is disputing that the struggles started before Bezos put his thumbs on the scale in the past couple of years.

NYT subscriber numbers shot up during that same time period, so plainly what drove the WaPo's decline wasn't "bias."

It's Schrodinger's bias. The NYT is a liberal rag, except when it's succeeding and WaPo isn't, then the latter is the liberal rag.

You came so close to actually having an intelligent thought here, when you mentioned the NYT was succeeding because of diversification and other moves. And then you couldn't get over your blatant partisanship.

We've already been over this in a thread long ago: You don't know your ass from your elbow when you're discussing the media industry, because you have no appreciable experience or knowledge of it.
 
So how come the NYT is still kicking around? They're certainly not less critical of Trump than WaPo.

NYT built up a lot of good will & reputation over the years and didn't burn as much of it as WaPo.
WaPo has been barely above tabloid level for at least the past 20 years, they were basically the trashy propaganda mouthpiece for US power brokers. They ain't called the Washington Compost for no reason, cause that's one of the few good uses for the paper.
 
NYT built up a lot of good will & reputation over the years and didn't burn as much of it as WaPo.
WaPo has been barely above tabloid level for at least the past 20 years, they were basically the trashy propaganda mouthpiece for US power brokers. They ain't called the Washington Compost for no reason, cause that's one of the few good uses for the paper.
While hardly the end all, they have a couple dozen Pulitzers during that time period that say otherwise regarding their reporting quality. What exactly makes them a tabloid level newspaper?
 
that’s really going a long way to say your vagina hurts because people are talking about the fraud in minnesota. weird flex.

What? I dont give a fuck about MN. Why in the world would I care..? I'm just getting tired of morons like yourself mentioning fraud like people such as Waltz or Omar have already been convicted in court and its a done deal, when the reality is its the exact opposite of that.

Hell Waltz made a comment that "fraud happens everywhere, every State" which is an objectively true statement. And idiots like yourself will come run and say "WALTZ DEFLECTING!! TRYING TO PIN HIS MASSIVE FRAUD ON OTHER STATES"

do yall ever get tired of lying? It has to get old at some point yeah?
 
NYT subscriber numbers shot up during that same time period, so plainly what drove the WaPo's decline wasn't "bias."

It's Schrodinger's bias. The NYT is a liberal rag, except when it's succeeding and WaPo isn't, then the latter is the liberal rag.
Ignoring that you've repeated the fault of your dismal reading comprehension, where I didn't attribute their struggle to bias, rather the fact an obsession with one political personality is unsustainable, I am humored by the fault in your logic. Certainly many media outlets succeed in spite of a heavy partisan slant. The Daily Wire is one on the other side. Yet, you are arguing that simply because one newspaper might succeed in spite of a spiraling partisan bias entails that every newspaper would. That's a naive fallacy that presumes the world of business operates like a petri dish. Many businesses can deploy the same strategy while suffering unequal consequences. After all, which newspaper and news media organizations have struggled the most in the past decade due to perceptions of partisan coverage? CNN, MSNBC, and The Los Angeles Times also suffered major declines. But you chose to ignore them. I'm not the only one who noticed.

Politico co-founder says liberal media have reached a low point: ‘Never been weaker in my lifetime’


We all know that local newspaper and print media have been struggling largely due to a shift in how people consume news. But the WaPo had already shifted to a digital format. I noted declines of digital readership. So if you wish to offer an alternative theory for why their readership cratered from 2021-2024, go ahead, but I don't really care, because...
No one is disputing that the struggles started before Bezos put his thumbs on the scale in the past couple of years.
Um, yes, yes someone has, my little goldfish. I see you already forgot how this started. This was what I rebutted:
You would never see it coming...

Jeff Bezos neuters the newspaper catering to Trump. Readers who cares about journalism drop their support and trumptards never read anything more complex than Fox News anyway.
But on behalf of @BlankaPresident, affording you the honor of being his proxy, I agree. It wasn't Bezos neutering the paper or catering to Trump. I'm glad you freely admit you can't dispute this.

Concession accepted.
 
What? I dont give a fuck about MN. Why in the world would I care..? I'm just getting tired of morons like yourself mentioning fraud like people such as Waltz or Omar have already been convicted in court and its a done deal, when the reality is its the exact opposite of that.

Hell Waltz made a comment that "fraud happens everywhere, every State" which is an objectively true statement. And idiots like yourself will come run and say "WALTZ DEFLECTING!! TRYING TO PIN HIS MASSIVE FRAUD ON OTHER STATES"

do yall ever get tired of lying? It has to get old at some point yeah?
happens everywhere is just another spin on one time a white perosn did it. you guys only have about four moves. deflect as above and one time someone else did it
 
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