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Was this MMA´s Rope-A-Dope?

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Talkin´ about the Spider vs Sonner 1 fight, not the Bonnar fight...

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Context: before the fight, Sonnen kept insultin´ Minotau´s BJJ.

Spider, like most of ATGs, is known to be a weirdo [see his antics during the Maia fight, for instance].

I´ve always felt that he somehow planned to submit him in this 1st fight, jus´to teach him a lesson
and make him pay for dishespectin´ his new mentor.

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Am I...reaching?

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Jus´saw this...

Quotin´ @IronMan374 from another thread:

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/t...n-silvas-career.3804773/page-2#post-143371919

"Many people also don't know that Anderson Silva had a severely bruised rib cage before his fight with Chael, who had insulted the Nogueira Brothers' jiu jitsu around the same time. Anderson took the fight anyway, despite doctor's wishes, and promised Rodgrigo he would submit Chael. Anderson wore the gi and black belt he received from Nogueira on the way to the cage.

Silva: I will submit him.
Rodrigo: You will knock him out.
Silva: No, I'm going to submit him.

It's in the Anderson Silva documentary "Like Water"."



> This dialogue actually reminds me of the story about Spider´s matrix elbow vs Fryklund:
Spider said that he saw this move in a movie, and told one of his friends that he was going to do it during the fight. His friend told him to forget about it, as it would never work during a real fight, but Spider insisted he would do it...
 
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Talkin´ about the Spider vs Sonner 1 fight, not the Bonnar fight...

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Context: before the fight, Sonnen kept insultin´ Minotau´s BJJ.

Spider, like most of ATGs, is known to be a weirdo [see his antics during the Maia fight, for instance].

I´ve always felt that he somehow planned to submit him in this 1st fight, jus´to teach him a lesson
and make him pay for dishespectin´ his new mentor.

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Am I...reaching?

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Muhammad Ali wasn't bitch slapped and kneed to the butt by Foreman.
 
Yes, it was.

The Spider wove his net to trap the loud mouth in his own turf: grappling.

Only the GOAT can pull that kind of thing off.
 
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Well, the equivalent can always be found. In terms of control and embarrassment, I mean (mostly the embarrassment)

Silva was never embarrassed. Embarrassment is to have top control for 4 rounds and your opponent leave the octagon without a scratch on his face.
 
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Sounds like a reach to me. It was too close run of a thing and relied too much on an unforced error by Sonnen. Ali's rope-a-dope was a good gameplan and paid off before the halfway point of the fight. Silva had two minutes left and hadn't been able to get things going before then.
 
Embarrassment is to have top control for 4 rounds and your opponent leave the octagon without a scratch on his face.

...and had it continued until the end of the 5th?
Would Sonnen have been embarrassed, with the belt on his shoulder? Probably would use this belt to hide tears of shame
 
Sounds like a reach to me. It was too close run of a thing and relied too much on an unforced error by Sonnen. Ali's rope-a-dope was a good gameplan and paid off before the halfway point of the fight. Silva had two minutes left and hadn't been able to get things going before then.
Depends...

Jus´saw this...

Quotin´ @IronMan374 from another thread:

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/t...n-silvas-career.3804773/page-2#post-143371919

"Many people also don't know that Anderson Silva had a severely bruised rib cage before his fight with Chael, who had insulted the Nogueira Brothers' jiu jitsu around the same time. Anderson took the fight anyway, despite doctor's wishes, and promised Rodgrigo he would submit Chael. Anderson wore the gi and black belt he received from Nogueira on the way to the cage.

Silva: I will submit him.
Rodrigo: You will knock him out.
Silva: No, I'm going to submit him.

It's in the Anderson Silva documentary "Like Water"."
 
Nah roper dope was about wearing foreman out until pouncing when he noticed foreman was worn out. Silva pulled a hail mary out. Off the top of my head tito vs frank shamrock was the closest to the roper dope.
 
Nah roper dope was about wearing foreman out until pouncing when he noticed foreman was worn out. Silva pulled a hail mary out. Off the top of my head tito vs frank shamrock was the closest to the roper dope.
Indeed... Frank´s was.

Maurice Smith´s too...
 
Struck me as a desperation Hail Mary on a guy with terrible sub defense. I doubt the plan was to get bludgeoned for 4 1/2 rounds then go for a triangle
 
Waring your opponent out by letting him throw punches that have little effect, then going for the submission - that's MMA's rope-a-dope - Lesnar vs. Carwin
 
Waring your opponent out by letting him throw punches that have little effect, then going for the submission - that's MMA's rope-a-dope - Lesnar vs. Carwin

Rope-a-dope is supposed to be a strategy. Lesnar showed a bigger heart than people expected, but no way he planned that first round.
 
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