International War Room V240: Congratulations to Rush Limbaugh on one month sober

[My Spot]

Do i ever get out of this fucking city in the FFVII remake?

If not this game is a tugboat

The game ends as soon as you're leaving Midgar. They were stupid to call it a remake in the first place.

 

[Gandhi]

Why not his PRIDE fights? Thems the good ones.

Atomic but drop for the win lol!!!!!

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

@Jack V Savage





















tell me Jack...who here is trying to have a civil, honest conversation?

who is reframing and being dishonest about the other party's position.

please be honest here.

here's the entire thread

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...retary-is-transgender.4157304/#post-163337525

Looks civil enough on your end. Don't see enough to identify any dishonesty.

 

[Sycho Sid]

Do i ever get out of this fucking city in the FFVII remake?

If not this game is a tugboat

The first game is midgar

 

[Jack V Savage]

@Jack V Savage\

tell me Jack...who here is trying to have a civil, honest conversation?

who is reframing and being dishonest about the other party's position.

please be honest here.

here's the entire thread

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...retary-is-transgender.4157304/#post-163337525

Yes, from those quotes, I would agree that you were trying to have a civil, honest conversation, and he was being a jerk. Not seeing any dishonesty, though.

 

[K1levelgrappler]

 

[K1levelgrappler]

lmfao

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Yes, from those quotes, I would agree that you were trying to have a civil, honest conversation, and he was being a jerk. Not seeing any dishonesty, though.

Seriously, implying that I hold positions that I do not? attributing thoughts that I don't think?

this is level 9 dishonesty and torpedoes any possibility of having a civil, honest conversation.

 

[Jack V Savage]

lmfao

I don't get it.

 

[K1levelgrappler]

I don't get it.

Pics a bit blurry but the guy on the billboard is Chris Dorner.

 

[A Lurker]

The game ends as soon as you're leaving Midgar. They were stupid to call it a remake in the first place.

Fuck this game then. The sheer amount of bullshit quests, i persevered because i loved the original and thought all along; i cannot wait till i get out of these slums and go on this awesome adventure.

This is the bad place.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Seriously, implying that I hold positions that I do not? attributing thoughts that I don't think?

this is level 9 dishonesty and torpedoes any possibility of having a civil, honest conversation.

I really don't see what you mean. Here's just the quotes from him in that exchange:

1. LOL funny coming from you. Since when do you care what someone's position is before labeling them? Anyway, once they who would presume to know finish embarrassing themselves by being offended by what they think instead of what is real I might get into that with you.

2. But my position is so clear and obvious. Let's hear @jamesmiller14 explain it to everyone since your attempt was such a pathetic failure.

3. I think you posted this thread expecting replies like those I quoted in post 280, and it damages the credibility of your OP saying you have no problem with it, "just sayin'", so I encourage you to elaborate on what you thought you might accomplish if you think it was A-OK. I already asked you to defend that earlier but received no reply.

And no, your assessment is incorrect. In the main, however, my "position" on transgender identity is irrelevant when my point is that kind of irrational hate identified above is why this thread had a predictable track. They're fucking evil and too mental to be trusted with any responsibility according to this thread, and half the people saying that can't manage to not be banned on a "karate forum". Think about that.

1 is just pure insults, really. No claims that are true or untrue. 2 is sarcasm. No claims to evaluate. 3. is speculation, a request, a reference to some other post, A FACTUAL CLAIM (hooray! but it can't be evaluated, and based on the tone, it seems to me that he believes it), clarification of his own point, a comment on the general tone of the thread (seems likely to me but obviously not exactly something that can be strictly evaluated). Am I missing something?

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Seriously, implying that I hold positions that I do not? attributing thoughts that I don't think?

this is level 9 dishonesty and torpedoes any possibility of having a civil, honest conversation.

Are you referring to this?

hey're fucking evil and too mental to be trusted with any responsibility according to this thread,

Seems he's not ascribing that to you so much as he's paraphrasing what he believes to be a prevalent sentiment in the thread.

 

[My Spot]

Fuck this game then. The sheer amount of bullshit quests, i persevered because i loved the original and thought all along; i cannot wait till i get out of these slums and go on this awesome adventure.

This is the bad place.

Wait until you find out what all those "ghosts" are really there for...

 

[Jack V Savage]

Are you referring to this?

Seems he's not ascribing that to you so much as he's paraphrasing what he believes to be a prevalent sentiment in the thread.

That's also my reading of it. But see the piece I quoted. It seems that the personal animosity has built up to the point that you guys can't even really understand each other.

 

[A Lurker]

Wait until you find out what all those "ghosts" are really there for...

I won't because this game can go disappear up its mothers tugboat

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

That's also my reading of it. But see the piece I quoted. It seems that the personal animosity has built up to the point that you guys can't even really understand each other.

Your assessments look fair to me. And yeah, those dudes should maybe take a break from each other.

 

[Andy Capp]

OK, so he saw this: "Joe Rogan has been saying this for months... and Bill Maher just had a segment on this last week. I'll go find it." and responded with a general attack on Rogan. You then asked him if he disagrees with the idea that COVID hits obese people harder. And he seemed offended by that question (he appeared to be objecting more to the tone and maybe implied agreement with the thread title--i.e., that COVID is nature/God's wrath upon fats) and then asked you if you think fat people should be valued less by society, which seemed to offend you.

My take is that neither of you was being dishonest, but both of you were being ungenerous and overly aggressive. Though he was just asking a question, he did imply a harsher anti-fat position than you took; and though you were just asking a question, you implied a belief he didn't hold (or possibly that objecting to the tone of the thread title was equivalent to disagreeing with an uncontroversial fact).

Good piece here on what I see the issue as between you two:

https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/trapped-priors-as-a-basic-problem

I recommend the whole thing, but the most-relevant portion:

I am not so certain that latter part of your post applies to me, necessarily. I thought it was pretty clear that he would have been just as well off saying what he himself thought about the subject rather than to go hunting for what Rogan told him to think about it. Rogan could have said my exact words on the plight of the fat person in America and I would still say he's not worth listening to. My comment was made irrespective of the subject as you well know, and as you acknowledge that he had a conniption over. I know I was repeating myself just now--it's an attempt to make sure certain others can understand. Everything that follows stems from that and from his inordinate refusal to back up his claims with anything other than out of context posts, and even that is a sudden concession to your prompting. Prior to your comments he wouldn't even attempt that but he did tag me in multiple other threads trying to start shit.

He thinks he is hoodwinking people with this and I'm not playing. That doesn't make my handling of the situation the result of habituation, but rather that I don't like him because he keeps calling me suicidal, drug addicted, fat, self-hating, seeking eternal victimhood, emotionally incapable of posting without going on an emotional rant (LMAO at the ironic projection), and most offensive to me honestly in terms of my Sherdog life, a liar.

I am not precisely sure how you would expect me to handle that which would not a priori fulfill the conditions in your reference. Yes, with personal attacks like that publicaly inflicted upon me among several people I consider more than mere acquaintances even if they are not friends per se, this is MRW,

 

[Deleted member 405583]

This reminded me that I should stream something soon haha

You're welcome

 

[Deleted member 405583]

I won't because this game can go disappear up its mothers tugboat