War Room Lounge v69: Oh no not the bees! Edition

[HereticBD]

The projection from you and your lot is so transparent it's surprising you continue to engage in it so faithfully after so long. Of course, you're well aware it's possible to phrase an accusation of bullying without using that specific word, right? I mean, you're not a total moron, right? And of course, you know I have no such affiliation with anyone here, because you're not a total moron, right? Yet at the same time, you have been whining for literally months now every time there's a mention of the report function. And at the same time people have been involved in backroom group chats where the decision was made to go after a particular poster, and you know that because you're not a moron, right? But you think I'm the triggered tribalist?

Oh', so now it's not "bullying" bullying...

Flail some more.

I commented solely on the suggestion there would be no harm in releasing the names of people who use the report button

You're twisting my words around though. I said there would be no problem in releasing a record of someone personally requesting it being released. Not just releasing them, with no permission granted by the user.

Both of your arguments have been completely dishonest, and you look like a fool. All because of second hand triggering over your tribesman getting a bit of shit tossed his way. LOL.

 

[Higus]

That would be more than correct.

Not to blow this up into a GC debate but the one place where I think gun owners on the whole should allow is... frankly people need to take a safety class say once every 5 years to purchase a firearm and the first one you take PRIOR to your first purchase should be more indepth.

Don't know how many times I've gone to a range or like a gravel pit to shoot and some 19 year old pulls up with his first ever firearm and proceeds to flag fucking EVERYONE and have zero trigger discipline.

It creates moments like this:


Timestamped for relevance.

One goal of mine is to save up to go to a Cris Costa class down the line but they don't need to be that in-depth or akin to Tim Kennedy's SheepDog response. Just like a 1 day class where they hammer in the fucking basics of not pointing the thing at a person and be mindful of your surroundings.

As to who teaches it? IDK, get like NRA instructors, guys like Costa Ludas, Sheepdog, and Sentinel Concepts as examples to buy into it with a flat rate or if they wanna charge more include grab bag shit like some electronic ear protection from like Impact and you'd be good to go there.

Some states will have a requirement to take a general safety class before being issued a license, but there are plenty of people that think that that is an unreasonable infringement.

 

[Higus]

@Gregolian speaking of which

 

[Gregolian]

The best idea I ever heard (imo) is the license idea. License and recertify like a driver's license, but also open up NFA items for the law abiding. Suppressors, SBRs, AOWs, the whole lot. That way we get better control, and also more toys to take to the range.

Some states will have a requirement to take a general safety class before being issued a license, but there are plenty of people that think that that is an unreasonable infringement.

I'm not a huge fan of the license thing but I get it... I also MAY come around depending on how much the price is.

Agreed on making suppressors and SBRs no longer NFA shit.

The reason I mention price is MOST people purchase firearms for protection... and it's jacked to set up licensing fees that would price people out of being able to protect themselves.

@Gregolian speaking of which

Best tacticool reloads is John Wick.


Those magazine flicks are fucking awesome looking. Tried to do that last time I was at a range... I felt like a fucking idiot. Never again.

Punisher has some cool ones too:

 

[Trotsky]

lol Greg you're currently projected to go 0-14

 

[Gregolian]

lol Greg you're currently projected to go 0-14

Shrug.

No money involved... my money leagues I'm 1-1 and 2-0 in.

CMC/Carolina, Edelman, and Fuller all fucked me last week. I get their projected points and I win. Hell, I get even 80% of their projected totals I'd have won. The year I won the PWD fantasy league I started like 0-4.

 

[Trotsky]

Shrug.

No money involved... my money leagues I'm 1-1 and 2-0 in.

CMC/Carolina, Edelman, and Fuller all fucked me last week. I get their projected points and I win. Hell, I get even 80% of their projected totals I'd have won. The year I won the PWD fantasy league I started like 0-4.

Whoops, that was supposed to be in the PM thread. Saw your wall of YT vids and thought I was there.

Anyways, you suck.

 

[Gregolian]

Anyways, you suck.

Bruh, I thought we had something with both of us being GB fans.

I hope a rampaging herd of AIDs infested donkeys fuck you up the ass now.

EDIT:
My fatass finally adulted and got a bedframe.
https://www.thuma.co/products/the-bed?variant=7550696456220

The fact it can hold my weight, isn't some steel looking monstrosity that would be better suited for a psycho wad and I can throw it together without tools... All pluses IMO.

 

[HockeyBjj]

Sounds like the 3 "teens" who tried to rob a homeowner who surprised the future doctors with an AR15.

https://fox8.com/2019/09/17/a-georg...ens-as-they-attempted-to-rob-him-at-his-home/

County sheriff saying they're investigating, but this is looking like a stand your ground case.

An investigation is underway, and this could be a "stand-your-ground type of case," Rockdale County Sheriff Eric Levett said Monday, referring to one component of Georgia's self-defense laws.

Will be refreshing to see an example of it used and get wide approval that the shooting was justified, rather than some sleezeball murderer trying to use it to get off (like in Florida parking lot).

3 masked guys entered front yard of home where 3 residents were, and 1 would be robber pulled out a gun. Speculation here and reading between the lines, but I think the stand your ground aspect the sheriff mentions comes into play where 1 person maybe went inside to get rifle, as it's pretty rare to have a non handgun on your person outside? So that 1 person was out of the front yard, but came back to put the armed robbers down (or shot from window). Again, attempting to put pieces together there on my part for a most likely scenario with what we know.

 

[tonni]

Bruh, I thought we had something with both of us being GB fans.

I hope a rampaging herd of AIDs infested donkeys fuck you up the ass now.

EDIT:
My fatass finally adulted and got a bedframe.
https://www.thuma.co/products/the-bed?variant=7550696456220

The fact it can hold my weight, isn't some steel looking monstrosity that would be better suited for a psycho wad and I can throw it together without tools... All pluses IMO.

Beds are a waste of money imo

 

[Gregolian]

Beds are a waste of money imo

After sleeping on a couch/camping sleeping pad on the floor for 2 months.

I disagree, some sort of mattress is worth it. I just got one of those ones that shows up in a box, fuck getting something at a mattress store for like $1900.

 

[Lord Coke]

Anyone want to tell me how this is a good idea?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/17/opinion/kavanaugh-trump-packing-court.html

Mad About Kavanaugh and Gorsuch? The Best Way to Get Even Is to Pack the Court
Their lifetime appointments cry out for Democratic hardball.


By Jamelle Bouie

Opinion Columnist

• Sept. 17, 2019

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President Trump bragged on Twitter recently about his success filling up the federal judiciary. “I want to congratulate” Senate majority leader “Mitch McConnell and all Republicans,” Trump wrote: “Today I signed the 160th Federal Judge to the Bench. Within a short period of time we will be at over 200 Federal Judges, including many in the Appellate Courts & two great new U.S. Supreme Court Justices!”

This is just a slight exaggeration. After 32 months in office, Trump has made 209 nominations to the federal judiciary, with 152 judges confirmed by the Senate, including two Supreme Court justices. That’s nearly half the total confirmed during President Barack Obama’s eight years in office.

[Jamelle Bouie will answer your questions about this column on Twitter on Tuesday at 2:30 p.m. Eastern: @jbouie.]

His picks fit a mold. They’re overwhelmingly white (87 percent, compared with 64 percent of Obama’s), overwhelmingly male (78 percent, compared with 58 percent of Obama’s), staunchly conservative and fairly young — the average age of judges confirmed under Trump is 50. His youngest confirmed nominee, Allison Rushing of the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, is 36.

The reasoning underpinning this proposal isn’t just about the future; it’s about the past. We have had two rounds of minority government in under two decades — two occasions where executive power went to the popular-vote loser. Rather than moderate their aims and ambitions, both presidents have empowered ideologues and aggressively spread their influence. We are due for a course correction.ADVERTISEMENT


The goal isn’t to make the courts a vehicle for progressive policy, but to make sure elected majorities can govern — to keep the United States a democratic republic and not a judge-ocracy. Yes, there are genuine constitutional disputes, questions about individual rights and the scope of federal power. At the same time, there are broad readings of the Constitution — ones that give our elected officials the necessary power to act and to solve problems — and narrow readings, which handcuff and restrict the range of our government.

In the past, courts have walled entire areas of American life off from federal action. They’ve put limits on American democracy and blocked the people, through their representatives, from tackling fundamental issues of public concern. During Reconstruction, courts handcuffed the government as it tried to address violence and state-sanctioned racism; during the Progressive Era, they kept Congress from putting the economy under some measure of democratic control.

We’re living through a version of this right now. Under Chief Justice John Roberts, the Court has denied Medicaid coverage to millions of poor people, neutered the Voting Rights Act, authorized new waves of voter suppression, unleashed the power of money for entrenched interests and would-be oligarchs, and opened the door to extreme partisan gerrymandering. And while this Court hasn’t brought the absurd Lochner-era doctrines that effectively made it impossible to legislate working conditions back from the dead, it has, in Justice Elena Kagan’s phrase, “weaponized” the First Amendment to strike down economic regulation and undermine organized labor.
Just to even win power, Democrats will have to overcome major structural obstacles, from the Electoral College in the race for the White House to a Senate that gives disproportionate representation to the most conservative areas of the country. To pass anything more than incremental legislation, they’ll have to overcome (or eliminate) the filibuster. And then they’ll still have to do the hard work of legislating.

In other words, if everything goes right for their party in this best case scenario, Democrats will still face a hostile Supreme Court majority, with like-minded judges throughout the federal judiciary. They can beat Trump at the ballot box, but unless something is done about the judiciary, they will lose to him in the courtroom.

That something is to pack the courts. Yes, there’s the risk of escalation, the chance that Republicans respond in turn when they have the opportunity. There’s also the risk to legitimacy, to the idea of the courts as a neutral arbiter. But Trump and McConnell have already done that damage. Democrats might mitigate it, if they play hardball in return.

At the start of his administration, President Franklin D. Roosevelt implemented restrictions on the ownership of gold, to prevent hoarding and speculation. Congress followed suit, canceling all clauses in public and private contracts that allowed payment in gold. As the Supreme Court considered the constitutionality of these actions, Roosevelt drafted a speech defending his actions as necessary for the “economic and political security of the nation.” He was prepared to challenge an

 

[Fawlty]

Thankfully nic cage edition won't be up long

Inshallah, of course

 

[tonni]

After sleeping on a couch/camping sleeping pad on the floor for 2 months.

I disagree, some sort of mattress is worth it. I just got one of those ones that shows up in a box, fuck getting something at a mattress store for like $1900.

Best sleep I ever get is when I go camping, it's annoying the first couple of minutes but by gawd I wake up fresh. Opinions differ, though. My girlfriend is not enthusiastic about my bed-less future.

 

[Gregolian]

Best sleep I ever get is when I go camping, it's annoying the first couple of minutes but by gawd I wake up fresh. Opinions differ, though. My girlfriend is not enthusiastic about my bed-less future.

I don't mind camping and I wake up fresher when doing that too but I think part of that is the lack of lights around me/noise.

Where I live now is RIGHT near a highway that is pretty desolate at night but there's still the odd semi truck or people coming back from vacations that go blasting by at like 70 miles an hour and you hear an air-brake once in awhile on the semi truck, plus I generally go to bed with the TV on and have been forgetting to set the sleep function.

Whereas when I am camping all I hear is the crickets and the odd like deer or elk bleet/bugle at night and the fresh air puts me to sleep instantly.

I use that Sleep Cycle app and the average "look" for it's tracking when I am at home looks like a heart beat monitor whereas when camping the thing fucking flatlines the whole like 6-7 hours I'm asleep.

 

[Trotsky]

Best sleep I ever get is when I go camping, it's annoying the first couple of minutes but by gawd I wake up fresh. Opinions differ, though. My girlfriend is not enthusiastic about my bed-less future.

Camping in Belgium?

Do you pitch a tent in a parking lot or are you one of those ritzy people with a yard?

 

[MMAisGod]

It's an accurate description of the very-real policy disposition of many liberals, including the NIMBY folks in your city.

Reminds me of a tone-deaf, self-righteous post I saw (non-ironically) trending online last week by this rich kid who was bragging about how he's a black gay man and made it to an "elite NYC firm," how exceptional he is to join such an exclusive group, how much representation matters, and how now people can "rest easy knowing you've got a friend in the room who still remembers where he came from." Ended the post with a bunch of shitty woke hashtags.

What's he doing at that firm? Oh, he's just making $200,000 foreclosing on people's homes and raiding pensions. But I'm sure all those poor black families and LGBTQ persons losing their homes will be able to rest easy knowing the guy who made it happen is black, gay, and is apt to remember it.

That is pretty funny but I believe it. I have a friend that's a like, ultra liberal, that we argue all the time about stuff. Of all things, all jobs, dude works for The Boys in the narcotics department after having been an undercover. I'm like yo, you've probably harassed more minorities than everyone you complain about combined with all the stories he tells lol. Blows right past him when I try to tell him that the criminal justice system in general is busted (he'll argue to the death that police do no wrong), but then he'll go on for days about how unfairly minorities are treated. Lolwut? You literally can't make it up.

 

[tonni]

Camping in Belgium?

Do you pitch a tent in a parking lot or are you one of those ritzy people with a yard?

I just crawl through people's hedges and sleep in their backyard, it's the only thing that makes me feel alive lately

 

[tonni]

@Trotsky I go to Eastern Europe but you can camp in the Ardennes, in theory.

 

[tonni]

I don't mind camping and I wake up fresher when doing that too but I think part of that is the lack of lights around me/noise.

Where I live now is RIGHT near a highway that is pretty desolate at night but there's still the odd semi truck or people coming back from vacations that go blasting by at like 70 miles an hour and you hear an air-brake once in awhile on the semi truck, plus I generally go to bed with the TV on and have been forgetting to set the sleep function.

Whereas when I am camping all I hear is the crickets and the odd like deer or elk bleet/bugle at night and the fresh air puts me to sleep instantly.

I use that Sleep Cycle app and the average "look" for it's tracking when I am at home looks like a heart beat monitor whereas when camping the thing fucking flatlines the whole like 6-7 hours I'm asleep.

That's one of the things I truly envy you Americans for. You guys have so much space. If you wanna live somewhere far away from everyone, you have a lot of options. Over here, it's overpopulated and there's light and noise pollution all around.

I took a sleeping examination, I woke up about 150 times in one night. Most of those around under 15 seconds, around 44 were waking moments longer than 15 seconds.