War Room Lounge v69: Oh no not the bees! Edition

Best Nic Cage films. Pick up to 3 (Listed 5 top IMDB, then 5 top box office, & so-on until 20 films)


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Sorry man. Just my opinion. And this is coming from a big QT fan

Did you see OUTH yet?

Edit: saw the post above. Wtf? How can you like that one over RD?
 
Did you see OUTH yet?

Edit: saw the post above. Wtf? How can you like that one over RD?

I dont know man. Just my taste. I loved the buddy aspect in OUTH. I honestly think Pitt should get a nomination. I also loved....LOVED the last 15 minutes.

I didn't find RD to even be a movie. It seemed like it was just a bunch of scenes thrown together with no cohesiveness. And again I found the violence to be quantity over quality there
 
Sure sometimes he goes off on character attacks and then wonders why said person isn't discussing things in good faith with him. Not the best strategy if you want civil, good faith discourse.

In @Jack V Savage's interactions with me, it has been personal attacks 100% of the time for years now. If you aren't part of his tribe, he makes little effort to converse in good faith. I simply bring it up because you introduced his empty slander as something to be "concerned" with. You decide whatever you want to believe.

"Kafir-kun, post: 155134497, member: 343965"]Yes because the Democratic party has radically changed since those days. That doesn't mean you shouldn't call out cynical uses of rape accusations in the 21st century but it does mean that trying to follow a thread from that to the Dixecrats is dishonest since it completely ignores the transformation of both parties in the intervening decades.
There's no doubt that the Dem party has changed radically since those days, and I haven't claimed otherwise. But cynical, false accusations of rape is a thread that ties the two eras together. It's not just politics either, look at the UVA rape hoax and the Duke lacrosse rape hoax, both of which were backed by the media and supposedly responsible college faculty and administrators. Both of those, and the campus race hysteria in general is largely driven by the far left, the radical campus and media types.
 
These statements are so wrong that it would take a couple semesters of History and Philosophy courses to thoroughly explain why. Bravo.

I always appreciate the non-attempt attempt. Like it seems like you refuted something I said, and mentioned history!, but without refuting anything or supplying any historical facts. Bravo.
 
You're lying, of course, and as usual. You will not be able to cite any examples of me dishonestly representing your comments or views, and the reason I say I think that you're very dishonest is that you lie a lot. It's not some kind of "strategy," and it seems unhinged of you to claim so.

Lol.
 
I dont know man. Just my taste. I loved the buddy aspect in OUTH. I honestly think Pitt should get a nomination. I also loved....LOVED the last 15 minutes.

I didn't find RD to even be a movie. It seemed like it was just a bunch of scenes thrown together with no cohesiveness. And again I found the violence to be quantity over quality there

What’s funny is that’s just what I thought of OUTH. Didn’t feel like a story. I liked the set up and the characters but it fell flat to me aside from a few good scenes. RD had a story, it just was very very simple. A robbery went bad and someone is a rat. He managed to make a whole movie out of a simple premise as that. OUTHs end would’ve felt more rewarding if the story connected it all better.
 
What’s funny is that’s just what I thought of OUTH. Didn’t feel like a story. I liked the set up and the characters but it fell flat to me aside from a few good scenes. RD had a story, it just was very very simple. A robbery went bad and someone is a rat. He managed to make a whole movie out of a simple premise as that. OUTHs end would’ve felt more rewarding if the story connected it all better.

Lol. Man, we just see those films so different

I LOVED how the whole Manson plot SEEMED small but was actually a big part of the movie. And I loved the happy ending where he finally meets his neighbors. My 15 yr old daughter actually really enjoyed it also. Yea, she wanted to really see it.
 
There's no doubt that the Dem party has changed radically since those days, and I haven't claimed otherwise. But cynical, false accusations of rape is a thread that ties the two eras together. It's not just politics either, look at the UVA rape hoax and the Duke lacrosse rape hoax, both of which were backed by the media and supposedly responsible college faculty and administrators. Both of those, and the campus race hysteria in general is largely driven by the far left, the radical campus and media types.
Its a very tenuous connection at best. Heck, you've now shifted to tarring the Dems with what the wider left does. But that right there shows the massive difference; the Democrats are now the party of the left. Do you think it was the left behind the racially motivated false accusations against blacks?

If you're not happy with the way the Democrats and leftists in general have handled the #metoo movement that's fair but this trope of trying to tar modern Dems as the party of the KKK is D'Souza level dishonesty.
 
This will be super unpopular. But I think Reservoir Dogs is also immensely overrated
I think it gets overrated because its graded on a curve given that it was QT's directorial debut. Say what you want but you gotta admit that's a pretty effort to start your career with.
 
I think it gets overrated because its graded on a curve given that it was QT's directorial debut. Say what you want but you gotta admit that's a pretty effort to start your career with.

I guess man. Like I said, I'm a big fan. But I just did not like the film.

I'll take Speilbergs Duel or Nolans Following as first time efforts
 
I think it gets overrated because its graded on a curve given that it was QT's directorial debut. Say what you want but you gotta admit that's a pretty effort to start your career with.

That stuck in the middle with you scene is iconic.
 
I guess man. Like I said, I'm a big fan. But I just did not like the film.

I'll take Speilbergs Duel or Nolans Following as first time efforts
So you don't just think its overrated, you straight up didn't like it? Crazy.
That stuck in the middle with you scene is iconic.
Yeah really had an impact on me the first time I watched it.
 
@Jack V Savage I especially like this example (translated from an Italian blog post), the verbiage of which will give @Fawlty fits:

Take for example the processor of your PC: one could say that it can talk to the herald '. If we are charlatans, I mean. Then a guy who works in Verilog or in VHDL would come and explain to us that nothing in a processor talks to the afterlife.

The answer of the scoundrel at that point will be something related to the physics of silicon. The trouble is that at that point the Verilog expert runs out of his expertise, because the silicon part is only partially known (just enough to write hardware executable code on schedule), but if let's go to the state of the art there will be experts in matter physics who spend their lives on silicon, and those who have seen the mathematical modeling of a single hydrogen nucleus (a delirium of hermitian operators) knows well that " the atom of Silicon " it's not a simple thing at all.

In practice, if we make statements referring to the state of the art it will take a whole team of experts to contradict us, provided we refer to a fairly large complexity of physical phenomena. There is not a single person able to discuss a CPU's state of the art, it takes a whole team.

The problem is that gathering the aforementioned team will cost us an immense effort compared to what it costs the scoundrel to claim to ping the Madonna in person through his VPN .

In practice, economically speaking, scoundrels will always win, because competence costs more than incompetence.
^this is 90% of the posts in this subforum, or at least of the subset of posts that aren't mere braying or emoting.

It's one thing to make an attempt at an educated statement. It's another to learn just enough to defend a political position one was always going to hold regardless of the details of the subject.
 
Its a very tenuous connection at best. Heck, you've now shifted to tarring the Dems with what the wider left does. But that right there shows the massive difference; the Democrats are now the party of the left. Do you think it was the left behind the racially motivated false accusations against blacks?

If you're not happy with the way the Democrats and leftists in general have handled the #metoo movement that's fair but this trope of trying to tar modern Dems as the party of the KKK is D'Souza level dishonesty.

They did x then, they do x now. Not a hard connection to make at all. What makes it especially humorous is that the most famous liberal critique of the strategy in the Jim Crow Era has come under fire from today's progressives.

You are the one going an extra step and talking about the KKK. I'm not trying to tar the Dem party as a whole as irredeemably racist and have not done so. I thought I already made such a disclaimer. I'm talking about a characteristic tactic used then that has shamefully become a characteristic tactic of Dems again. If you see faults with my argument I can respect that, but your attitude that it is slimy or off limits is silly. What is slimy is that it is increasingly accepted by the Dem party and the liberal media to run incredible and unsubstantiated rape accusations for political gain. Slimy is Michael Avenatti being a go to source for Senate Dems when questioning a judicial nominee about whether he gang raped girls at high school parties.
 
We prefer the politically correct term "grape" to "gang rape."

As in: "Hey it's late on a Saturday and none of us are going to get laid at this party, so let's grape somebody."
 
So you don't just think its overrated, you straight up didn't like it? Crazy.

Yeah really had an impact on me the first time I watched it.

Nah, not crazy at all. Filmmaking is extremely subjective. There are people who hate the Dark Knight while the masses loved it.

Take Joker for instance. Most early reviews love it while a minority seem to hate it. Going as far as to call it dangerous.

But yea, I fully understand I'm in the minority when it comes to RD
 
What is slimy is that it is increasingly accepted by the Dem party and the liberal media to run incredible and unsubstantiated rape accusations for political gain.

Who here has started a thread about an accusation of rape against a politician by a random guy who was paid by a edgelord teenage felon to make it up?
 
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