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War Room Lounge v54: I was there for Kimura-Gracie, solid crowd

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Wai...

This is not a good look.
 
K1levelgrappler said:
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I feel like we talked about this yesterday.

https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/153535099/

Fawlty said:
Yeah that became an issue as far as moderation is concerned and was dropped. But this shit, I don't think is possible to live down.
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Ever notice when he tried to turn the grape juice thing around on me it was always from the screen caps of the little kids drinking it?
<TheWire1><{ByeHomer}>
 
Guys, do not imply he is a kid diddler, that is against the rules.

He is a kid porn apologist
 
Since we're talking about Sherdog: SVU, I'm just going to leave this here...
https://www.courthousenews.com/prosecution-of-kiddie-traffickers-plummeted-under-trump/

(CN) – For many victims, last week’s incarceration of sex offender Jeffrey Epstein represents belated justice after more than a decade of impunity and governmental complicity.


Labor Secretary Alex Acosta, right, accompanied President Donald Trump, left, speaks to members of the media on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington on July 12, 2019, announcing his resignation over his handling of a 2008 case involving Jeffrey Epstein. (AP Photo/Andrew Harnik)
Beneath that gloomy surface, however, an even darker picture emerges: federal prosecutions of those who trafficked children for sex dropped 26.7% over the last year.

The startling numbers appeared Tuesday in a report from the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse University.

“If the present pace of such prosecutions continues, the fiscal 2019 total will be 162, compared to 221 last year,” TRAC’s report states.

The Obama administration dramatically ramped up such prosecutions, climbing threefold from 85 cases in 2009, the year the 44th president took office, to more than 260 during his final year in the White House.

While those prosecutions held steady in the first year under President Donald Trump, TRAC’s analysis of Justice Department data says they have taken a dramatic plunge every year since.

“Compared to five years ago, the estimate of FY 2019 prosecutions of this type is down 32.2 percent, from 239,” the study says. “However, prosecutions over the past year are still much higher than they were ten years ago, up 90.6 percent from the 85 reported in 2009.”

TRAC obtained the data under the Freedom of Information Act.

The Southern District of New York, where Epstein was indicted last week, is tied with the Southern District of Texas as the most active pursuers of accused child sex-traffickers.

The Southern District of Florida, where Trump’s former Labor Secretary Alex Acosta let Epstein sign a 2008 nonprosecution agreement that shelved a 53-page indictment, does not even crack the top 10.

Reporting by the Miami Herald revealed that the plea deal immunized Epstein’s suspected co-conspirators from prosecution and allowed the tycoon to serve out a 13-month sentence for state-level prostitution charges in a county jail. Epstein took advantage of Florida’s work-release program six out of seven days a week.

Before criticism over the deal ended his tenure, Acosta pushed policies at the Department of Labor that pushed to divert resources from the mission of combating human trafficking. TRAC notes that individual U.S. attorneys have discretion over which cases to bring, but that prosecutors have increasingly declined referrals of cases involving child sex trafficking.

“When all referrals for federal prosecution for sex trafficking of children are examined, U.S. attorneys have generally turned down slightly more than half,” the study states. “In the last full year of the Obama Administration, federal prosecutors prosecuted 49 percent of these referrals. This percentage has been slipping since: during FY 2017 it was 46 percent and in FY 2018 it was 42 percent. So far in this fiscal year, Justice Department records show that the rate has fallen to 39 percent.”

The Justice Department did not immediately return a request for comment.

In a telephone interview, a former federal prosecutor whose experience included numerous sex-trafficking cases argued that TRAC’s listing of cases filed, rather than the number of defendants, may have distorted the numbers. TRAC did not immediately respond to a press inquiry about this methodology.

Still, the former prosecutor emphasized, the Trump administration’s antagonism to an immigrant visa program meant to protect sex-trafficking survivors could put anti-trafficking enforcement in jeopardy.

“In order to make these cases, you need the victims to be willing to appear as witnesses, that willingness is provided because these women see a path to a better life by cooperating with the U.S. government,” said the ex-prosecutor, who requested anonymity to discuss the views of career Justice Department officials.

First issued in the year 2003, the T-visa program was designed to provide sex-trafficking survivors four years of legal status, food stamps, job training and a pathway for their families to immigrate to the United States.

Such protections had been crucial to recruit witnesses against sex traffickers, who may be waiting to kill victims and their loved ones in their countries of origin.

“If all they see is death, they will stop cooperating,” the prosecutor said, referring to the witnesses.

For the prosecutor, such a Sophie’s choice was not an abstraction.

“I have specific memories of specific girls and women who were petrified that their families would be killed if they turned up on the witness stand,” the prosecutor said, emphasizing the need to make them feel protected. “That is the key to having witnesses: No witness, no cases.”

Before his resignation, Acosta’s Labor Department threw up hurdles to limit authority to certify visas and proposed an 80% budget cut to the International Labor Affairs Bureau, charged with combating human trafficking and child labor domestically and internationally.

House Democrats drafted a proposal on May 15 that would expand the program’s funding from $68 million to $122 million.
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Fawlty said:
Lena Dunham's dad? That sounds odd. I just remember something about her messing with her sister and that being a huge deal here.
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It wasn't sexual. It was just freaking weird and gross. It had to do with, when she and her little sister were kids, her little sister hiding pebbles in her private parts and Lena discovering them.
 
Sycho Sid said:
@Limbo Pete Wai is now in the heavies trying to normalize child porn by claiming everyone has looked at it at some point.

You broke the bastard
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Here is the charge on Trujillo:

“a person commits wholesale promotion of obscenity to a minor if, knowing its content and character, such person wholesale promotes to a minor or possesses with intent to wholesale promote to a minor any obscene material.”

Does that sound anything at all like unknowingly seeing a person of ambiguous age who was actually illegal? Doesn't sound anything like it to me. So when he equivocates between that and Trujillo's charge, sorry but that's 100% a personal revelation and an attempt to, as you say, normalize. Exactly the right word.
 
Trotsky said:
It wasn't sexual. It was just freaking weird and gross. It had to do with, when she and her little sister were kids, her little sister hiding pebbles in her private parts and Lena discovering them.
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It may not have been sexually gratifying but still... wtf.
 
Trotsky said:
It wasn't sexual. It was just freaking weird and gross. It had to do with, when she and her little sister were kids, her little sister hiding pebbles in her private parts and Lena discovering them.
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<SelenaWow><{clintugh}>
 
You guys keep talking about that Lena Dunham story and you're going to end up on my ignore list
 
Trotsky said:
Oh god, that would be one shit show of a thread

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lmao, that would be fun.
I haven't had a chance to read in depth on it yet. I want to see if I'm missing something before I send it out to genpop.
 
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