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Two of my choices were mainly because of alcohol. Lime and/or coconut can get me drunk very fast if I'm not paying attention to what I'm having.
War Room Lounge v49: Aggressive Plum Advocacy
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Two of my choices were mainly because of alcohol. Lime and/or coconut can get me drunk very fast if I'm not paying attention to what I'm having.
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The coconut water I get has pieces in it I like. It's weird but I like the texture. It's like pulp in orange juice
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What's that white bottle shit that chicks drink? I can't remember. It's undeniably delicious though.
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Homer, are you up? @BarryDillon
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I laughed at that. I'll give you credit there.
I still don't understand why you are lying
You know me. You know can say "my bad ' and it ends shit you can pm me or text it to i. I will never share it l
You're not Homer. He will never get a pass
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This?
Yup. That's the stuff.
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RIP that magnificent son of a bitch.
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Yea, it's not bad imo. There's a few drinks I could make out of that.
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Okay this I did not know. I guess that accounts for the slightly artificial taste, since it's not the familiar bee jizz that we all know and love.
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This got lost in the madness of the last fred, but may be worth a look (and not really worthy of its own thread)
All the important stuff is in the first 5 minutes. To people who care about postmodernism and its effects on the culture (increasingly coming from the right wing these days) and on television, what do you guys think of this?
also it's not really about David Foster Wallace so much. It's about the problems of cynicism, self-reference, irony, etc.
All the important stuff is in the first 5 minutes. To people who care about postmodernism and its effects on the culture (increasingly coming from the right wing these days) and on television, what do you guys think of this?
also it's not really about David Foster Wallace so much. It's about the problems of cynicism, self-reference, irony, etc.
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This thread is a good example of the inane conversations that will be permissible if things keep going in this censorious direction:
“Hey guys, what kind of fruit do you like?”
“Coconuts are super alpha, because I like nuts, because I’m gay.”
And for the record, the answer is limes.
“Hey guys, what kind of fruit do you like?”
“Coconuts are super alpha, because I like nuts, because I’m gay.”
And for the record, the answer is limes.
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the optics of this are just horrible. I don't know anything about this case but the lawyer that argued this is horrible.
https://www.courthousenews.com/feds-tell-9th-circuit-detained-kids-safe-and-sanitary-without-soap/
SAN FRANCISCO (CN) – The Trump administration argued in front of a Ninth Circuit panel Tuesday that the government is not required to give soap or toothbrushes to children apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border and can have them sleep on concrete floors in frigid, overcrowded cells, despite a settlement agreement that requires detainees be kept in “safe and sanitary” facilities.
All three judges appeared incredulous during the hearing in San Francisco, in which the Trump administration challenged previous legal findings that it is violating a landmark class action settlement by mistreating undocumented immigrant children at U.S. detention facilities.
“You’re really going to stand up and tell us that being able to sleep isn’t a question of safe and sanitary conditions?'” U.S. Circuit Judge Marsha Berzon asked the Justice Department’s Sarah Fabian Tuesday.
U.S. Circuit Judge William Fletcher also questioned the government’s interpretation of the settlement agreement.
“Are you arguing seriously that you do not read the agreement as requiring you to do anything other than what I just described: cold all night long, lights on all night long, sleeping on concrete and you’ve got an aluminum foil blanket?” Fletcher asked Fabian. “I find that inconceivable that the government would say that that is safe and sanitary.”
The settlement at issue came out of Jenny Lisette Flores v. Edwin Meese, filed in 1985 on behalf of a class of unaccompanied minors fleeing torture and abuse in Central America.
Finally agreed upon in 1997, the settlement established guidelines for the humane detention, treatment and release of minors taken into federal immigration custody. The guidelines include the right to a bond hearing and requirements that immigration authorities timely release children to parents or guardians and place those not released in facilities that meet certain standards. The facilities are supposed to be “safe and sanitary.”
The settlement landed back in court in 2015, when class members moved to enforce it following the Obama administration’s announcement that it would scrap bond hearings because they conflicted with newer immigration laws. In legal filings, the class contended the elimination of bond hearings and dirty and dangerous conditions at short-term holding facilities operated by the Border Patrol violated the agreement.
U.S. District Judge Dolly Gee in Los Angeles granted the class’ motion and ordered the appointment of an independent monitor to ensure government compliance with Flores.
Gee said the administration had breached Flores by failing to provide detainees with adequate food and clean drinking water, or with hygiene items like soap, toothbrushes and towels. She also concluded that the children were being deprived of sleep and access to bathrooms, and were subjected to near-freezing temperatures.
The Ninth Circuit affirmed much of Gee’s ruling in July 2017, finding that detainees were still entitled to bond hearings.
On Tuesday, Fabian asked the Ninth Circuit to reverse Gee’s findings because they added new requirements – such as giving detainees soap and toothbrushes – that were not specifically included in Flores.
“One has to assume it was left that way and not enumerated by the parties because either the parties couldn’t reach agreement on how to enumerate that or it was left to the agencies to determine,” Fabian said.
“Or it was relatively obvious,” Fletcher shot back. “And at least obvious enough so that if you’re putting people into a crowded room to sleep on a concrete floor with an aluminum-foil blanket on top of them that it doesn’t comply with the agreement.”
“It wasn’t perfumed soap, it was soap. That’s part of ‘safe and sanitary.’ Are you disagreeing with that?” he added.
Class counsel Peter Schey said that, although Gee had listed specific items such as toothbrushes in her order, which were not listed in the settlement, settlement compliance must be analyzed in terms of California contract law, under which the general terms in an agreement must be “reasonably interpreted.”
“The first thing you do is honor the plain meaning” of words like “safe” and “sanitary,” Schey said.
“Today we have a situation where once a month a child is dying in [federal] custody,” he added. “Certainly the Border Patrol facilities are secure, but they’re not safe and they’re not sanitary.”
On rebuttal, Fabian said the administration plans to file a motion for reconsideration with Gee upon a favorable ruling from the panel, eliciting a portentous reply from Berzon.
“Have you considered whether you might go back and consider whether you really want to continue this appeal?” Berzon said.
“There doesn’t seem to be a whole lot left of it, considering that life has so moved on now,” she added, and noted that a government regulation codifying and extinguishing Flores is in the works.
“I just feel like we’re litigating ancient history at this point,” Berzon said.
Senior U.S. Circuit Judge A. Wallace Tashima was also on the panel, which did not indicate when it would rule.
President Bill Clinton appointed all three panelists.
https://www.courthousenews.com/feds-tell-9th-circuit-detained-kids-safe-and-sanitary-without-soap/
SAN FRANCISCO (CN) – The Trump administration argued in front of a Ninth Circuit panel Tuesday that the government is not required to give soap or toothbrushes to children apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border and can have them sleep on concrete floors in frigid, overcrowded cells, despite a settlement agreement that requires detainees be kept in “safe and sanitary” facilities.
All three judges appeared incredulous during the hearing in San Francisco, in which the Trump administration challenged previous legal findings that it is violating a landmark class action settlement by mistreating undocumented immigrant children at U.S. detention facilities.
“You’re really going to stand up and tell us that being able to sleep isn’t a question of safe and sanitary conditions?'” U.S. Circuit Judge Marsha Berzon asked the Justice Department’s Sarah Fabian Tuesday.
U.S. Circuit Judge William Fletcher also questioned the government’s interpretation of the settlement agreement.
“Are you arguing seriously that you do not read the agreement as requiring you to do anything other than what I just described: cold all night long, lights on all night long, sleeping on concrete and you’ve got an aluminum foil blanket?” Fletcher asked Fabian. “I find that inconceivable that the government would say that that is safe and sanitary.”
The settlement at issue came out of Jenny Lisette Flores v. Edwin Meese, filed in 1985 on behalf of a class of unaccompanied minors fleeing torture and abuse in Central America.
Finally agreed upon in 1997, the settlement established guidelines for the humane detention, treatment and release of minors taken into federal immigration custody. The guidelines include the right to a bond hearing and requirements that immigration authorities timely release children to parents or guardians and place those not released in facilities that meet certain standards. The facilities are supposed to be “safe and sanitary.”
The settlement landed back in court in 2015, when class members moved to enforce it following the Obama administration’s announcement that it would scrap bond hearings because they conflicted with newer immigration laws. In legal filings, the class contended the elimination of bond hearings and dirty and dangerous conditions at short-term holding facilities operated by the Border Patrol violated the agreement.
U.S. District Judge Dolly Gee in Los Angeles granted the class’ motion and ordered the appointment of an independent monitor to ensure government compliance with Flores.
Gee said the administration had breached Flores by failing to provide detainees with adequate food and clean drinking water, or with hygiene items like soap, toothbrushes and towels. She also concluded that the children were being deprived of sleep and access to bathrooms, and were subjected to near-freezing temperatures.
The Ninth Circuit affirmed much of Gee’s ruling in July 2017, finding that detainees were still entitled to bond hearings.
On Tuesday, Fabian asked the Ninth Circuit to reverse Gee’s findings because they added new requirements – such as giving detainees soap and toothbrushes – that were not specifically included in Flores.
“One has to assume it was left that way and not enumerated by the parties because either the parties couldn’t reach agreement on how to enumerate that or it was left to the agencies to determine,” Fabian said.
“Or it was relatively obvious,” Fletcher shot back. “And at least obvious enough so that if you’re putting people into a crowded room to sleep on a concrete floor with an aluminum-foil blanket on top of them that it doesn’t comply with the agreement.”
“It wasn’t perfumed soap, it was soap. That’s part of ‘safe and sanitary.’ Are you disagreeing with that?” he added.
Class counsel Peter Schey said that, although Gee had listed specific items such as toothbrushes in her order, which were not listed in the settlement, settlement compliance must be analyzed in terms of California contract law, under which the general terms in an agreement must be “reasonably interpreted.”
“The first thing you do is honor the plain meaning” of words like “safe” and “sanitary,” Schey said.
“Today we have a situation where once a month a child is dying in [federal] custody,” he added. “Certainly the Border Patrol facilities are secure, but they’re not safe and they’re not sanitary.”
On rebuttal, Fabian said the administration plans to file a motion for reconsideration with Gee upon a favorable ruling from the panel, eliciting a portentous reply from Berzon.
“Have you considered whether you might go back and consider whether you really want to continue this appeal?” Berzon said.
“There doesn’t seem to be a whole lot left of it, considering that life has so moved on now,” she added, and noted that a government regulation codifying and extinguishing Flores is in the works.
“I just feel like we’re litigating ancient history at this point,” Berzon said.
Senior U.S. Circuit Judge A. Wallace Tashima was also on the panel, which did not indicate when it would rule.
President Bill Clinton appointed all three panelists.
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Tbf a fruit can’t really be alpha unless it is a good euphemism for balls.
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