War Room Lounge V43: STEM is Overrated

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How about I know it was you Fredo, and you broke my heart?
 
Has anybody ever considered that a boat resembles both a penis and a vagina? I don't know if that's deep or shallow. But it's weird.
 
Fawlty said:
Has anybody ever considered that a boat resembles both a penis and a vagina? I don't know if that's deep or shallow. But it's weird.
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That's what she said...
 
Fawlty said:
Has anybody ever considered that a boat resembles both a penis and a vagina? I don't know if that's deep or shallow. But it's weird.
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Maybe a canoe...otherwise what kind of vaginas have you been paying to see?
 
Fawlty said:
Because I don't remember it and everybody loves it, so I'm supposed to watch it again and I don't want to.
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Read the books! And watch the movie! Not like the third one, just the first two
 
Limbo Pete said:
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There are too many problems with the "Do STEM" shit to express in a post.

But maybe the most obvious is to think back to school and wonder how many of those people in your class would have any business being scientists, technologists, engineers, or mathematicians. Are these people trying to fucking kill us?
 
Fawlty said:
There are too many problems with the "Do STEM" shit to express in a post.

But maybe the most obvious is to think back to school and wonder how many of those people in your class would have any business being scientists, technologists, engineers, or mathematicians. Are these people trying to fucking kill us?
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What drives me nuts is this notion that you can just self-teach your way through the equivalent of a humanities degree, particularly an advanced one.
Wildly false.
 
Limbo Pete said:
What drives me nuts is this notion that you can just self-teach your way through the equivalent of a humanities degree, particularly an advanced one.
Wildly false.
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It works the opposite way in reality. Most STEM students are self-taught to a pretty large degree. (this is taking into account computer science, which is what "STEM" actually means in America - another problem w/the use of the term btw)
 
Limbo Pete said:
What drives me nuts is this notion that you can just self-teach your way through the equivalent of a humanities degree, particularly an advanced one.
Wildly false.
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Meh, I kind of agree, at least relative to STEM. For much of STEM, you literally just don't have and cannot gain access to the necessary tools to self-learn, particularly for things like biochemistry that require powerful microscopes and computer programs, chemicals and cultures unavailable to civilians, and other lab equipment like super-freezers. Even with less equipment-dependent things like calculus, it seems to me that persons that can self-teach without some sort of institutional support are quite limited. Meanwhile, for things like the law, sociology (my two disciplines), or history, if you can procure the primary and secondary materials (which, for law and sociology at least, you can) you can learn the material.
 
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It works the opposite way in reality. Most STEM students are self-taught to a pretty large degree. (this is taking into account computer science, which is what "STEM" actually means in America - another problem w/the use of the term btw)
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That's pretty false, outside of equations and formulas you need actual access to equipment that is largely out the reach of the diy student. I can get the basis of a lot the humanities by simply accessing a school library, but I cant test out the aerodynamic properties of graphene without access to it.

Ambitious students from any discipline are going to go on their own to expand their knowledge base but the materials needed greatly differ from the hard sciences to the soft and arts
 
Fawlty said:
It works the opposite way in reality. Most STEM students are self-taught to a pretty large degree. (this is taking into account computer science, which is what "STEM" actually means in America - another problem w/the use of the term btw)
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The lab portions of most STEM degrees instantly puts you out of the ability to self teach. You can read and do chem/physics equations all day but the portion of those degrees that are really satisfying (or difficult which is why I switched to PoliSci instead of finishing Neuroscience) is you need hands-on lab work.
 
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