War Room Lounge V26: Neoliberal Clicks

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Haven't been following. Do I have this right:

Jones comes back positive for drug test.
Nevada athletic commission says he can't compete.
Jones comes up with a fake excuse???
Dana White decides to have the fight proceed anyways, but under a different athletic commission?

If that's right, why doesn't the other athletic commission follow the same rules?
And if you fail a drug test, what does it matter what kind of excuse you come up with?
 
Tom Wilson landing a devastating punch on Jamie Oleksiak:

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sickc0d3r said:
The eye-test agrees with you, but there's no way to know the effect cheating had on outcomes, no matter how skilled he is technically. He could push harder than the next guy all through training, recover more quickly from nagging injuries, was stronger and faster than he should've been, would not fatigue as quickly, etc, etc. He doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Also, Gus should have won the first fight.
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Yeah it's a mess.

But Gus definitely lost their first fight. He definitely won R1, but I had Jones taking at least 3 of the other 4.
 
Tobacco said:
Haven't been following. Do I have this right:

Jones comes back positive for drug test.
Nevada athletic commission says he can't compete.
Jones comes up with a fake excuse???
Dana White decides to have the fight proceed anyways, but under a different athletic commission?

If that's right, why doesn't the other athletic commission follow the same rules?
And if you fail a drug test, what does it matter what kind of excuse you come up with?
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The UFC was going to try and bury the test failure until NSAC said no imo. I don't think they counted on that. They could hide the roid bust, especially with the new reporting policy that was very obviously designed with him specifically in mind, but couldn't hide a venue change.
The fake excuse was entirely for the purpose of letting CSAC sign off on it; everyone knows damn good and well it's a complete lie. He popped again, plain and simple.
I don't know much about steroids, but I do wonder if him getting toward middle age has anything to do with this. I wonder if maybe his body just can't process things like it used to. Given what i'm assuming are herculean efforts to mask his doping, You gotta think that maybe he won't be able to fully hide it ever again.
 
Limbo Pete said:
The UFC was going to try and bury the test failure until NSAC said no imo. I don't think they counted on that. They could hide the roid bust, especially with the new reporting policy that was very obviously designed with him specifically in mind, but couldn't hide a venue change.
The fake excuse was entirely for the purpose of letting CSAC sign off on it; everyone knows damn good and well it's a complete lie. He popped again, plain and simple.
I don't know much about steroids, but I do wonder if him getting toward middle age has anything to do with this. I wonder if maybe his body just can't process things like it used to. Given what i'm assuming are herculean efforts to mask his doping, You gotta think that maybe he won't be able to fully hide it ever again.
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That settle it, I'm never watching another UFC again. And I'm not being sarcastic either, green lighting cheating like this is a disgrace.

Would be funny if Gustafson just entered the octagon than ran out when they ring the opening bell, kind of like that boxer did. He could say he didn't feel safe fighting a drug cheat.

Sherdog would break lol.
 
SidJustice said:
Dunno, this time it pissed me off. I did not care about his coke fueled antics, but I think this just broke the proverbial camel's back.

*Edit* shit, I will still probably root for Jones by the time fight night rolls around. He is the one who got me hooked on MMA.
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1.) Damn Jon Jones.

2.) Damn the UFC and CSAC because they won't damn Jon Jones.

3.) Damn everyone that won't log onto sherdog and sit up all night damning Jon Jones!
 
JDragon said:
To think fighters found out via social media and sometimes have a dozen team members / family flown in ...

So unprofessional. I guess Dana needed to save this year's bonus / profit share.

Hope they are compensating ticket holders and fighters appropriately. I just thought about that. If you'd give 10,000 people 500 dollars each to cover for hotel/travel rearrangement, you are looking at 5 million dollars. I think that is a small sum against the expected revenues (and profits).
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I'm beginning to think the new owners are super profit driven to pay off the debt but eventually when that becomes manageable, they are going to sack Dana and blame him for every damning thing that happened when they went $$$ hungry at any long term cost. This will be one of them.
 
Tobacco said:
That settle it, I'm never watching another UFC again. And I'm not being sarcastic either, green lighting cheating like this is a disgrace.

Would be funny if Gustafson just entered the octagon than ran out when they ring the opening bell, kind of like that boxer did. He could say he didn't feel safe fighting a drug cheat.

Sherdog would break lol.
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If there's ever a time to damn the sport at this point, it would be this aside from Lesnar/DC. Gus should make a spectacle about it. If he did the same thing jones did at this point, he'd be forgotten by this point and fighting somewhere in a small Asia promotion.
 
Limbo Pete said:
The UFC was going to try and bury the test failure until NSAC said no imo. I don't think they counted on that. They could hide the roid bust, especially with the new reporting policy that was very obviously designed with him specifically in mind, but couldn't hide a venue change.
The fake excuse was entirely for the purpose of letting CSAC sign off on it; everyone knows damn good and well it's a complete lie. He popped again, plain and simple.
I don't know much about steroids, but I do wonder if him getting toward middle age has anything to do with this. I wonder if maybe his body just can't process things like it used to. Given what i'm assuming are herculean efforts to mask his doping, You gotta think that maybe he won't be able to fully hide it ever again.
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It's fucking horseshit.

The only way a guy HIS AGE has ED issues is if he's been on the gear for a long LONG time and his body just can't produce testosterone anymore...

I hope one of two things happen.

Gus shows up, and walks out of the cage right as ref starts round 1 by like jumping over the cage wall... OR, in the alternative, he beats the brakes off Jones and then when Dana comes in post fight he mugs Dana.

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Time for Gus to go full Stone Cole Steve Austin with a bit of Ivar from the show Vikings and just be a colossal shitheel to prove a point.

Mark Hunt telling fighters to sue Dana personally. LOL
 
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Oh good, we are all in agreement, fuck Jones and fuck the UFC.


Still buying the fight though
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
Oh good, we are all in agreement, fuck Jones and fuck the UFC.


Still buying the fight though
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Fuck that shit.

I'm going to pirate the shit and Tweet Dana a link to the site I use to pirate his shit.

I'm going to be Mean Girls level petty about this
 
Gregolian said:
Fuck that shit.

I'm going to pirate the shit and Tweet Dana a link to the site I use to pirate his shit.

I'm going to be Mean Girls level petty about this
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I'm still interested in the fight and I can't bring myself to steal content.
 
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