War Room Lounge V24: Mental Illness

[Cubo de Sangre]

But don't feel bad for me. I got paid by the hour today.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Dumbest set of playcalling by the Rams. Jesus.

 

[Trotsky]

Dumbest set of playcalling by the Rams. Jesus.

I disagree (and I disagree with just about everything that HORRIBLE group of commentators said all game). McVay knew he had to go for the jugular since KC had been bottling the run all game and Mahomes was on fire. I thought play action bootlegs were the perfect calls, and the first one would have worked if not for Parker blocking the throw.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I disagree (and I disagree with just about everything that HORRIBLE group of commentators said all game). McVay knew he had to go for the jugular since KC had been bottling the run all game and Mahomes was on fire. I thought play action bootlegs were the perfect calls, and the first one would have worked if not for Parker blocking the throw.

Rams have the league's leading rusher. This is where a back and a running game add up to winning football.

 

[Prokofievian]

Shinguards maybe? I think in my area most of it is so bush league chances are we'd be even lucky for the shin pads.

In all of Holland, unless you're 16 years and under, it's just gloves. This was surprising to me, but they'll just let any two guys in a ring to kick the shit out of each other.

 

[Prokofievian]

My pup got ill today. He was at the vet all day on on IV and antibiotics. $500. we need medicare for dogs.

We do. Hope your pupper feels better.

 

[tonni]

What would be wrong with using a camera as an instrument to record something we can see when both the camera and the eye work by absorbing light and gathering the information? If anything it's the camera that can be made to surpass the capabilities of the eye, and the recordings aren't as unreliable as human memory either. Of course improper use of a camera can cause some odd effects, but that's a flaw with both that and the eye.

The real issue isn't whether everything can be easily explained though. The problem is when you get something you can't immediately explain you have people just making shit up to explain it. You always have people that seek easy answers to complex questions, regardless of whether they can actually be supported by relevant evidence.

(taking it to the lounge since it's a massive derailment).

With a lot of the ghost and esp stuff, it revolves more around the feeling of a presence than actually seeing it with your eyes. In cases where a ghost is seen, from what I've read, it's often just one person seeing it and other people nothing. Why would a camera pick it up?

I'm not making a statement on the validity on ghost sightings with this by the way. I'm agnostic on most things and I don't need a solid explanation for it. I enjoy mystery without the need to get the results reproduced in a lab.

So I agree with your question on whether or not everything can be explained. Let me rephrase my instruments comment: without the right instruments, you can't really measure a phenomenon. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Perhaps there's something about or biology that makes us more sensitive to "paranormal" things that doesn't really translate to technology.

 

[TheComebackKid]

Yeah the black Israelites definitely have their own aesthetic. As you are sorting through it all are you affiliated or drawing knowledge from any one group in particular or at least more than others?

No I'm not affiliated with any one group nor am I a student of any one doctrine that is out there. I absorb information from everyone. I take what away what makes sense and can be verified or corroborated and I discard what can't.

When I was talking about Moors, I don't mean just the ethnic group or black North Africans but a subset of American blacks who call themselves Moors. They seem similar in some ways to the nation of Islam. Now no doubt these various groups might seem very distinct from an inside perspective, but from the outside looking in they all seem similar to me, especially in their recasting of the history and identity of the black race and especially blacks in America. A lot of your psots remind me of these guys.

Yeah I understand, it's all pretty confusing from the outside. There are several different sub groups within the black intellectual & religious communities who are currently battling for influence in, imo, a healthy way. You got your Pan-Africans, your Moors, Indigenous/Aboriginals, Hebrew Israelites, Hamites, ect. They all have their specific views with the one constant being...we were all lied to, mainly by a specific group of people, and our history has been hidden. These groups share many similar views regarding history but disagree on specifics and narrative.

For me, the Indigenous/Aboriginal crowd seems to be the closest to the truth.

And sorry to barrage you with questions, but do what extent to you see the identity of American blacks as a religious one? How would you describe your own religious views? Judaistic/Hebrew faith or more Muslim or Christian etc?

Given the things that I have learned I now see the identity of the so called Black American, and White American, completely as a 'religious' one. When it comes to my religious views I am a believer in Christ but I wouldn't align myself with the doctrine of your average Constantine Christian here in America. Nor would I align myself with Muslim or Judaic doctrine. Ultimately I believe the Scriptures including the Apocrypha and use that as my religious guide. Major groups and religions largely mislead imo.

 

[tonni]

@Which Doctor I wanna talk about UFOs here. In the 90's, there were a series UFO sightings in Belgium, the best known was the triangle UFO. At one point, it was visible on traffic control's radar and Belgian airforce chased the UFO with F16's.

An obviously doctored pictured was spread, which was later admittedly a hoax by a fellow Belgian. This was supposedly the evidence that the whole thing was a hoax. My one thought is: why was it visible on the radar?

 

[TheComebackKid]

@Which Doctor I wanna talk about UFOs here. In the 90's, there were a series UFO sightings in Belgium, the best known was the triangle UFO. At one point, it was visible on traffic control's radar and Belgian airforce chased the UFO with F16's.

An obviously doctored pictured was spread, which was later admittedly a hoax by a fellow Belgian. This was supposedly the evidence that the whole thing was a hoax. My one thought is: why was it visible on the radar?

Aliens = Demons

 

[Which Doctor]

@Which Doctor I wanna talk about UFOs here. In the 90's, there were a series UFO sightings in Belgium, the best known was the triangle UFO. At one point, it was visible on traffic control's radar and Belgian airforce chased the UFO with F16's.

An obviously doctored pictured was spread, which was later admittedly a hoax by a fellow Belgian. This was supposedly the evidence that the whole thing was a hoax. My one thought is: why was it visible on the radar?

Because it was a stealth bomber/variant...

 

[tonni]

Aliens = Demons

I've heard it being said before. Supposedly, interdimensional visitiors. Tell me more. This is the mental illness lounge. I will not hold back.

 

[tonni]

Because it was a stealth bomber/variant...

@NoDak get in here let's talk about ufos

 

[Captain Davis]

@NoDak get in here let's talk about ufos

He just wants to see Uranus.

 

[Captain Davis]

No I'm not affiliated with any one group nor am I a student of any one doctrine that is out there. I absorb information from everyone. I take what away what makes sense and can be verified or corroborated and I discard what can't.



Yeah I understand, it's all pretty confusing from the outside. There are several different sub groups within the black intellectual & religious communities who are currently battling for influence in, imo, a healthy way. You got your Pan-Africans, your Moors, Indigenous/Aboriginals, Hebrew Israelites, Hamites, ect. They all have their specific views with the one constant being...we were all lied to, mainly by a specific group of people, and our history has been hidden. These groups share many similar views regarding history but disagree on specifics and narrative.

For me, the Indigenous/Aboriginal crowd seems to be the closest to the truth.



Given the things that I have learned I now see the identity of the so called Black American, and White American, completely as a 'religious' one. When it comes to my religious views I am a believer in Christ but I wouldn't align myself with the doctrine of your average Constantine Christian here in America. Nor would I align myself with Muslim or Judaic doctrine. Ultimately I believe the Scriptures including the Apocrypha and use that as my religious guide. Major groups and religions largely mislead imo.

I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s what governments do. They mislead. Party is irrelevant, it’s not about the party or even the religious sect. People in power care only to stay in power. They feed us crumbs. Different flavored crumbs depending on our particular tastes. They promise these crumbs in return for our support. We are too ignorant and lazy to change this dynamic, so like mindless minions, we gobble up their bullshit, fight amongst ourselves, while they all laugh and pat one another on the back as they sip on martinis together.

 

[NoDak]

He just wants to see Uranus.

(Neptune is my fave planet though)

 

[Squarechoke]

(taking it to the lounge since it's a massive derailment).

With a lot of the ghost and esp stuff, it revolves more around the feeling of a presence than actually seeing it with your eyes. In cases where a ghost is seen, from what I've read, it's often just one person seeing it and other people nothing. Why would a camera pick it up?

I'm not making a statement on the validity on ghost sightings with this by the way. I'm agnostic on most things and I don't need a solid explanation for it. I enjoy mystery without the need to get the results reproduced in a lab.

So I agree with your question on whether or not everything can be explained. Let me rephrase my instruments comment: without the right instruments, you can't really measure a phenomenon. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Perhaps there's something about or biology that makes us more sensitive to "paranormal" things that doesn't really translate to technology.

There have been plenty of people saying that they've seen ghosts so it would apply there. Someone just having a feeling of a presence is so vague that it can't even be directly tied to ghosts.

It's fine to enjoy mysteries but I think without the hunt for evidence it's just mystery for the sake of mystery, which I like in fiction but I'm less content with for reality. The only explanation you can then have is someone just making crap up, and those people certainly don't want evidence gathered either as it just risks showing something that doesn't align with their story, even though those stories are generally made so evidence will be as non applicable as possible.

Yes, you cannot measure feelings with a camera, but we have plenty of supposed supernatural events being described as things you could record with cameras and/or microphones. All from direct sightings to things moving around, noises, etc.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s what governments do. They mislead. Party is irrelevant, it’s not about the party or even the religious sect. People in power care only to stay in power. They feed us crumbs. Different flavored crumbs depending on our particular tastes. They promise these crumbs in return for our support. We are too ignorant and lazy to change this dynamic, so like mindless minions, we gobble up their bullshit, fight amongst ourselves, while they all laugh and pat one another on the back as they sip on martinis together.

Damn, man, this is sad. Not saying it like an insult, but like it's bad that people feel that way about their own country. It's not true, but it's a belief that is widely promoted.

 

[Captain Davis]

Damn, man, this is sad. Not saying it like an insult, but like it's bad that people feel that way about their own country. It's not true, but it's a belief that is widely promoted.

I’ve lived a bit longer than you my friend. Watching cycle after cycle, politician after politician, not much really changes among regular people.

Take Doug Jones as an example. The Democrat that Alabamians voted for over the insane alternative. He stated that he was a conservative Democrat. He would take the will of the people of Alabama to Washington.

Yet, so far all he has done is tow the Democratic line and he goes right along with what Shumer and Pelosi tell his ass to do.

I’m actually sad for you bud. You put faith and trust in people who couldn’t care less about you. They do however, really care about your vote and they will tell you exactly what you want to hear to get it.

When is the last time you heard a politician say they wanted what’s best for every citizen? That they would only support laws and bills that benefitted every citizen? You don’t. You see them pander to specific groups because those groups are the ones who support them.

It is certainly their plan to keep us fighting amongst ourselves because as long as we aren’t united, they keep control.

 

[Gregolian]

In all of Holland, unless you're 16 years and under, it's just gloves. This was surprising to me, but they'll just let any two guys in a ring to kick the shit out of each other.