War Room Lounge v190: Resolution Impossible

[PolishHeadlock2]

 

[AgonyandIrony]

I don't think Che is particularly controversial, either. There's a reason he's the patron saint of modern leftism. His gravest sin is, what, not fighting for speech rights during the provisional government? Not resisting popular demands and intervening on behalf on traitors in the revolutionary trials?

I need to reread Che:A Revolutionary Life by Jon Lee Anderson again. He's still a massive icon in Zapatista territory. I think a lot of flack he gets is usually from his closeness to Fidel, despite still living humbly and his actions during the transition from the Batista to Castro regime. Granted I'm a bit more fuzzy than I once was when I could ramble off his entire life story off the top of my head when I was a teenager.

Which makes me curious, Rage Against the Machine showcased leftist ideology and imagery on a mass scale. What would this generations version of RATM be? I was thinking Run The Jewels based on lyrics and popularity in the mainstream.

 

[Sketch]

I just started with a post about money being lost if all student debt is forgiven. I may have chose the wrong word (would've replaced college with fed/private institutes) but the initial point remains. Then had a mini debate with Jack, established that I was right about the federal government losing money because "they'll make a little less revenue for a long period of time." Then @Tycho Brah tells me to stop, and the tribe starts liking posts. What is going on here

These guys are soft. Baby shit.

 

[Lead]

I just started with a post about money being lost if all student debt is forgiven. I may have chose the wrong word (would've replaced college with fed/private institutes) but the initial point remains. Then had a mini debate with Jack, established that I was right about the federal government losing money because "they'll make a little less revenue for a long period of time." Then @Tycho Brah tells me to stop, and the tribe starts liking posts. What is going on here

I try to be careful with even my likes for this reason but I failed a bit here. My like wasn’t to somehow put you down but somewhat agree I was bored of that exchange. You shouldn’t take it as an attack from me.

 

[The Diplomat]

I try to be careful with even my likes for this reason but I failed a bit here. My like wasn’t to somehow put you down but somewhat agree I was bored of that exchange. You shouldn’t take it as an attack from me.

I agree that a whole page of that is annoying, but I was really just trying to get Jack to say how total student loan forgiveness may not be viable. Or at the very least, was trying to get him to admit that we'd lose money. Then it turned into me asking them to explain how I was wrong...either way, I guess dumping on @Social Distance Warrior or reading about how weird @tonni is is better entertainment.

Anyways, have a good night Leadster.

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

I try to be careful with even my likes for this reason but I failed a bit here. My like wasn’t to somehow put you down but somewhat agree I was bored of that exchange. You shouldn’t take it as an attack from me.

Do I get extra points for prompting likes that lead to self-resentment?

 

[Sketch]

I need to reread Che:A Revolutionary Life by Jon Lee Anderson again. He's still a massive icon in Zapatista territory. I think a lot of flack he gets is usually from his closeness to Fidel, despite still living humbly and his actions during the transition from the Batista to Castro regime. Granted I'm a bit more fuzzy than I once was when I could ramble off his entire life story off the top of my head when I was a teenager.

Which makes me curious, Rage Against the Machine showcased leftist ideology and imagery on a mass scale. What would this generations version of RATM be? I was thinking Run The Jewels based on lyrics and popularity in the mainstream.

why do you think this stands out? I'm curious

 

[Sketch]

I try to be careful with even my likes for this reason but I failed a bit here. My like wasn’t to somehow put you down but somewhat agree I was bored of that exchange. You shouldn’t take it as an attack from me.

lol do you have a like limit?

 

[Trotsky]

I need to reread Che:A Revolutionary Life by Jon Lee Anderson again. He's still a massive icon in Zapatista territory. I think a lot of flack he gets is usually from his closeness to Fidel, despite still living humbly and his actions during the transition from the Batista to Castro regime. Granted I'm a bit more fuzzy than I once was when I could ramble off his entire life story off the top of my head when I was a teenager.

Fidel himself gets plenty of unwarranted criticism, but at least there's so meat on that bone.

Which makes me curious, Rage Against the Machine showcased leftist ideology and imagery on a mass scale. What would this generations version of RATM be? I was thinking Run The Jewels based on lyrics and popularity in the mainstream.

I'm not super informed about who's who in music right now. Refused comes to mind. IIRC, Refused they have showcased communist imagery.

 

[The Diplomat]

lol do you have a like limit?

He meant that he tries not to like certain posts incase someone thinks he has a bias Like how people are shitting on @irish_thug lately.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I agree that a whole page of that is annoying, but I was really just trying to get Jack to say how total student loan forgiveness may not be viable. Or at the very least, was trying to get him to admit that we'd lose money. Then it turned into me asking them to explain how I was wrong...either way, I guess dumping on @Social Distance Warrior or reading about how weird @tonni is is better entertainment.

Anyways, have a good night Leadster.

It is viable. Any stimulus program would cost the gov't money, either through direct spending or lost revenue.

 

[The Diplomat]

It is viable. Any stimulus program would cost the gov't money, either through direct spending or lost revenue.

And I believe the cost would be too much for the feds to pull the trigger on. I'm not arguing that i'm against it - I'm *for* everything on that list. It's a matter of practicality.

Anyways, I'm bored of this convo like everyone else.

 

[Sketch]

He meant that he tries not to like certain posts incase someone thinks he has a bias Like how people are shitting on @irish_thug lately.

It's crazy how people are with likes but it is understandable. There's a couple creeps in this lounge who watch who likes who's posts and they talk about it in private. I've made a point of liking every single post in the lounge for a while now.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

It's crazy how people are with likes but it is understandable. There's a couple creeps in this lounge who watch who likes who's posts and they talk about it in private. I've made a point of liking every single post in the lounge for a while now.

Its really weird...
The "like police" here are pretty sensitive

 

[HereticBD]

OK. Like I said, I think it happens if Republicans stonewall any stimulus, and possibly still happens if they don't.

But that's COVID related. I wouldn't rule out a temporary reprieve under extreme circumstances. I'm asking if you believe it will be a move made, regardless. If you believe that, then draw it up.

 

[Lead]

I agree that a whole page of that is annoying, but I was really just trying to get Jack to say how total student loan forgiveness may not be viable. Or at the very least, was trying to get him to admit that we'd lose money. Then it turned into me asking them to explain how I was wrong...either way, I guess dumping on @Social Distance Warrior or reading about how weird @tonni is is better entertainment.

Anyways, have a good night Leadster.

My original guess about what the confusion was is federal vs private loans. I forget if you are US or Canadian but our student loans come from the government now for the most part so I don’t think there’s the cash issue that you may have been thinking of with a private loan. Even in those events, I think the government would still possibly be able to pay it over the remaining life of the loan instead of the person it was “forgiven” for so the costs would still be over the course of A decade or so. I think Jack agreed there’s a cost, he just thinks it’s manageable.

Do I get extra points for prompting likes that lead to self-resentment?

LIKE REVOKED!

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

He meant that he tries not to like certain posts incase someone thinks he has a bias Like how people is shitting on @irish_thug lately.

@irish_thug is a great mod.
Have no idea why anyone would be beefing with him

 

[Jack V Savage]

And I believe the cost would be too much for the feds to pull the trigger on. I'm not arguing that i'm against it - I'm *for* everything on that list. It's a matter of practicality.

Anyways, I'm bored of this convo like everyone else.

You're not for something if you oppose it. FYI.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

And I believe the cost would be too much for the feds to pull the trigger on. I'm not arguing that i'm against it - I'm *for* everything on that list. It's a matter of practicality.

Anyways, I'm bored of this convo like everyone else.

Ps I'm liking all your posts on this page...just because

 

[Trotsky]

OK. Like I said, I think it happens if Republicans stonewall any stimulus, and possibly still happens if they don't.

By "it," you mean the $10k forgiveness?