War Room Lounge v169: That toilet I **** to hell? They're going to cut open one of the pipes to see

[HereticBD]

It could be the clicking. Admittedly it dealt with philosophical themes that ive played out on a personal level but outside of that it is highly rated by both scifi fans and mainstream critics alike. It also might be just be a matter of taste on your end. What's your standard for scifi? What film is the "one" for you?

I don't really have a "one". Of course there are the standard cerebral flicks, like "Blade Runner" and "2001", but I also enjoy "Demolition Man" and the like.

Most recently, I really liked "Ex Machina", "Upgrade", and "Annihilation". There was also this indie time traveling flick I liked a lot, but the title escapes me. It's not "Primer", which was also quite good.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

The externalities are different. For a corrupt, grifting Mitch McConnell-type, they'll pursue and enforce the same social policies as the Wahhabist so long as the policies have support. The only difference is that they'll be using them primarily as vehicles to pass additional policies that do not have support and that are patently indefensible.

You can negotiate in somebody who is corrupt (assuming leverage), you can’t negotiate with a zealot.

 

[TheMinority]

I think theres just too much simplification all around to reach something that resembles a close truth. Too many specific factors involved.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

I can't comment on the book, but the movie was a little too on the nose with it's themes, and felt lazy in that regard.

The bullet holes in the hands and the manger stuff? The parting of the red sea with the soldiers was cool as well. Christianity Today pointed out it was released on Christmas and I never knew that, pretty cool.

About the book.

What’s astonishing is how thoroughly Baroness James realizes her future. Her language is rich and sensory, plunging us immediately into the sunny muck of the world and sinking us even deeper in ways that may force you put the book down for a quick, wide-eyed break. She was brutal. The Children of Men achieves phenomenal depth by being honest about the soul-crushing strength of horrors that can befall all of us as proof of how strong hope can be in response. In her book, hope becomes an act of defiance.

To go through all the differences between the novel and the film would defeat the point and ruin the experience of using the novel as an in-spirit sequel. No spoilers here. Suffice it to say that the novel gives us a microscopic look into Theo’s soul with a tragicomic childhood and early marriage/fatherhood, as well as frequent dips into his personal diary.

From a technical standpoint, this is legit one of my favorite scenes of all time.

I was obsessed with the movie when I was 18.

According to Cuarón, the title of P. D. James' book (The Children of Men) is an allegory derived from a passage of scripture in the Bible.[36] (Psalm 90 (89):3 of the KJV: "Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men") James refers to her story as a "Christian fable"[26] while Cuarón describes it as "almost like a look at Christianity": "I didn't want to shy away from the spiritual archetypes", Cuarón told Filmmaker Magazine. "But I wasn't interested in dealing with dogma."[32]

This divergence from the original was criticised by some, including Anthony Sacramone of First Things, who called the film "an act of vandalism", noting the irony of how Cuarón had removed religion from P.D. James' fable, in which morally sterile nihilism is overcome by Christianity.[38]

The film has been noted for its use of Christian symbolism; for example, British terrorists named "Fishes" protect the rights of refugees.[39] Opening on Christmas Day in the United States, critics compared the characters of Theo and Kee with Joseph and Mary,[40] calling the film a "modern-day Nativity story".[41] Kee's pregnancy is revealed to Theo in a barn, alluding to the manger of the Nativity scene; when Theo asks Kee who the father of the baby is she jokingly states she is a virgin; and when other characters discover Kee and her baby, they respond with "Jesus Christ" or the sign of the cross.[42] Also the Archangel Gabriel (among other religious figures) is invoked in the bus scene.

Damn I loved that movie.

I don’t, was he a bad guy irl?

Your Moms House is my favorite podcast there is and it is super fucked up and has tons of inside jokes and a cult fanbase. It's not the real Ed Asner, it's a fat dude jerking off and saying the weirdest things that looks like Ed Asner and who they call Ed Asner (Tom Segura laughed until he cried about being contacted by his lawyers lol) . It's sort of hard to explain why the podcast is so amazing, but I love it.

 

[irish_thug]

I enjoyed all the Oddities shows. That one did a marvelous job of bringing me back to the heyday of Heavy Metal magazine so it has a special place in my heart. Sign here if you remember Heavy Metal--not the movie, the magazine, although the movie was fucking awesome too.

Man. I miss heavy metal

 

[sickc0d3r]

I don't really have a "one". Of course there are the standard cerebral flicks, like "Blade Runner" and "2001", but I also enjoy "Demolition Man" and the like.

Most recently, I really liked "Ex Machina", "Upgrade", and "Annihilation". There was also this indie time traveling flick I liked a lot, but the title escapes me. It's not "Primer", which was also quite good.

Probably Hot Tub Time Machine .

Seriously, though, have you seen Coherence? If you like indie sci-fi I recommend.

 

[Yehudim]

You can negotiate in somebody who is corrupt (assuming leverage), you can’t negotiate with a zealot.

Reminded me of a post he made recently, I didn’t bother replying to it though. Something about Ted Cruz being on the SC and taking a bribe from big oil to vote in their favor.

And all I was thinking was “do you really think Ted Cruz needs to be bribed in order to favor big oil and whatever theoretical case that would be brought up against them?”

Accepting money doesn’t have nice optics, but contrary to what many believe, many politicians actually believe what they say, and don’t need money to pursue certain policy or decision

The Israeli lobby can shower him in money and I would bet my life on that not making a difference for him.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

@tonni do you know much about the healthcare workers protesting? Saw they got into clashes with the police a week or two ago.

Bro how tiny is that lil cop on the left. This picture has so much happening lol.

Also if you guys haven't seen The Boys I HIGHLY recommend it. If you have seen it, I have a question because I feel like I missed something super important. I just started season 2 a few minutes ago.

 

[Trotsky]

Reminded me of a post he made recently, I didn’t bother replying to it though. Something about Ted Cruz being on the SC and taking a bribe from big oil to vote in their favor.

And all I was thinking was “do you really think Ted Cruz needs to be bribed in order to favor big oil and whatever theoretical case that would be brought up against them?”

Accepting money doesn’t have nice optics, but contrary to what many believe, many politicians actually believe what they say, and don’t need money to pursue certain policy or decision

The Israeli lobby can shower him in money and I would bet my life on that not making a difference for him.

I very much disagree with this. While Ted Cruz may well be something of an actual conservative ideologue, most elected Republicans are not. What binds them to the party is more often than not a vague social conservatism. Very few, i believe, enter government believing the rich and corporations should dominate the law at all costs and against all reason and concepts of equity. And even with as far right as the conservative bench currently is, it's not like they unanimously rule in favor of business. Any and all have and will issue rulings adverse to business interests and litigants. But when their rulings are conspicuously suspect, it's natural to review their extra-legal incentives (see Scalia and Thomas taking gifts from parties before the Court).

And that's without getting into the biggest issue of political finance corruption: not the active swaying of officials, but the financing of those very officials' political careers, particularly in down ballot races and primaries, permeating politics with hacks, whether those hacks genuinely believed in business interests or just shrewdly realized they were powerful allies.

Also, fankly, knowing the policy beliefs of Republican voters (socially conservative but not heavily in favor of big business and relatively critical of Republican economic policy), I think it's pretty silly and naive to think Republican officials are so far divorced from their constituents and are all supply side fanatics.

 

[Gutter Chris]

The bullet holes in the hands and the manger stuff? The parting of the red sea with the soldiers was cool as well. Christianity Today pointed out it was released on Christmas and I never knew that, pretty cool.

About the book.

From a technical standpoint, this is legit one of my favorite scenes of all time.

I was obsessed with the movie when I was 18.

Damn I loved that movie.


Your Moms House is my favorite podcast there is and it is super fucked up and has tons of inside jokes and a cult fanbase. It's not the real Ed Asner, it's a fat dude jerking off and saying the weirdest things that looks like Ed Asner and who they call Ed Asner (Tom Segura laughed until he cried about being contacted by his lawyers lol) . It's sort of hard to explain why the podcast is so amazing, but I love it.

I find my enjoyment of your moms house really depends on the guest. And that old jerk off guy is so gross. My fave podcast is 2 bears used to be rogan but its just not the same anymore and burrs lost a step too. I damn near crashed the car when they talked about meeting jennifer anistan and anytime segura gets bert to laugh so hard he makes that noise it brightens my day.

I love me some podcasts to break up the day but im getting to a point i have too many to follow.

 

[curryjunkie]

nothing to see here....
The charismatic community People of Praise is in the news this week because President Trump has met with Amy Coney Barrett, whom he is considering nominating to the U.S. Supreme Court following the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Ms. Coney Barrett’s affiliation with the group, based near the University of Notre Dame, where she taught law, came into view in 2017, when she was confirmed as a federal appeals court judge. With news of Ms. Coney Barrett’s possible Supreme Court nomination, People of Praise came into the spotlight again, with at least one publication claiming it was the basis for the dystopian novel and television series The Handmaid's Tale.

What is People of Praise?
People of Praise is a South Bend, Ind.–based charismatic community that attracts members from a number of Christian churches, though the vast majority of its members are Catholic. The group was founded in 1971, part of a Catholic charismatic renewal that emerged from the Second Vatican Council. Charismatic communities emphasize the role of the Holy Spirit in the daily lives of believers. Some of their practices appear to have more in common with Pentecostal communities than with traditional Catholicism, such as speaking in tongues, healing services and prophecy.

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

@tonni do you know much about the healthcare workers protesting? Saw they got into clashes with the police a week or two ago.

Bro how tiny is that lil cop on the left. This picture has so much happening lol.

Also if you guys haven't seen The Boys I HIGHLY recommend it. If you have seen it, I have a question because I feel like I missed something super important. I just started season 2 a few minutes ago.

The boys is the best show on tv right now

 

[Yehudim]

I very much disagree with this. While Ted Cruz may well be something of an actual conservative ideologue, most elected Republicans are not. What binds them to the party is more often than not a vague social conservatism. Very few, i believe, enter government believing the rich and corporations should dominate the law at all costs and against all reason and concepts of equity. And even with as far right as the conservative bench currently is, it's not like they unanimously rule in favor of business. Any and all have and will issue rulings adverse to business interests and litigants. But when their rulings are conspicuously suspect, it's natural to review their extra-legal incentives (see Scalia and Thomas taking gifts from parties before the Court).

And that's without getting into the biggest issue of political finance corruption: not the active swaying of officials, but the financing of those very officials' political careers, particularly in down ballot races and primaries, permeating politics with hacks, whether those hacks genuinely believed in business interests or just shrewdly realized they were powerful allies.

Also, fankly, knowing the policy beliefs of Republican voters (socially conservative but not heavily in favor of big business and relatively critical of Republican economic policy), I think it's pretty silly and naive to think Republican officials are so far divorced from their constituents and are all supply side fanatics.

I agree, I was just critical of that one example, because Ted Cruz is a true ideologue and money wouldn’t budge his position on most politics.

 

[Trotsky]

I agree, I was just critical of that one example, because Ted Cruz is a true ideologue and money wouldn’t budge his position on most politics.

Like

 

[tonni]

@tonni do you know much about the healthcare workers protesting? Saw they got into clashes with the police a week or two ago.

Bro how tiny is that lil cop on the left. This picture has so much happening lol.

Also if you guys haven't seen The Boys I HIGHLY recommend it. If you have seen it, I have a question because I feel like I missed something super important. I just started season 2 a few minutes ago.

I'll get to this after work xxx

 

[AgonyandIrony]

I find my enjoyment of your moms house really depends on the guest. And that old jerk off guy is so gross. My fave podcast is 2 bears used to be rogan but its just not the same anymore and burrs lost a step too. I damn near crashed the car when they talked about meeting jennifer anistan and anytime segura gets bert to laugh so hard he makes that noise it brightens my day.

I love me some podcasts to break up the day but im getting to a point i have too many to follow.

That's interesting you say that, I used to listen to Burr twice a week but for some reason just kind of grew bored with it (no fault of the podcast or the great Bill Burr) I too used to like Rogan, but ever since I tripped balls and listened to like five hours of his stuff I realized before Rogan we used to hang out with the assistant manager of our first job with black light posters because he would get us high and say simple shit and we would all feel profound. It's crazy he's never invited Chomsky though.

I like YMH no matter what, but certain guests really make the show. I wish I would have known you liked the fan, I would have given you my password for the last two PPVs. Fair warning, the PPVs are fucking HARDCORE. Like Ed Asner jerking off. Bro.. they show it. You know about Robert Paul Champagne right? I remember breaking up with a girl who is an amazing local artist and having to throw out all the "Piss on Me, Beat Me, Try It out" magnets and fun little art pieces lol. He did an interview for the PPV and he's straight up thriving.

I like Bert as a person because I'm basically the anarcho-punk version of Bert in a bunch of ways, which means I'm basically the shittier version of Kyle Kinane, and I like 2 Bears but it's like one of those "I'm writing or cleaning all day and need some background noise" podcasts.

Bad Friends though? Best new podcast in the last few years. I love Andrew Santino and I love Bobby Lee, and I'll tune into their individual podcasts, but I will straight up rewatch Bad Friends after finishing it. Their chemistry is incredible. I love


Plus the addition of Rudy has been amazing. I love Theo Von and I used to love his stand up and usually his podcast, but he's been a bit off ever since Bill Burr basically called him a crybaby bitch.

nothing to see here....
The charismatic community People of Praise is in the news this week because President Trump has met with Amy Coney Barrett, whom he is considering nominating to the U.S. Supreme Court following the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Ms. Coney Barrett’s affiliation with the group, based near the University of Notre Dame, where she taught law, came into view in 2017, when she was confirmed as a federal appeals court judge. With news of Ms. Coney Barrett’s possible Supreme Court nomination, People of Praise came into the spotlight again, with at least one publication claiming it was the basis for the dystopian novel and television series The Handmaid's Tale.

What is People of Praise?
People of Praise is a South Bend, Ind.–based charismatic community that attracts members from a number of Christian churches, though the vast majority of its members are Catholic. The group was founded in 1971, part of a Catholic charismatic renewal that emerged from the Second Vatican Council. Charismatic communities emphasize the role of the Holy Spirit in the daily lives of believers. Some of their practices appear to have more in common with Pentecostal communities than with traditional Catholicism, such as speaking in tongues, healing services and prophecy.

C to O to the NCERNING.

The boys is the best show on tv right now

It's incredible stuff. The Millenial version of the original Watchmen. I'm blown away by how good it is.

Also what's Scorpions user name? It's not coming up in search. I wanted to ask him a question.

 

[skysolo]

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Funny how everyone talks about fires from some BLM advocates and forgets the Philadelphia PD literally dropped bombs and burnt a bunch of children to death. Or when Chicago PD and the FBI linked up to drug a Black Panther and execute him.

Cops wondering why fires are set like bruh.

 

[skysolo]

42 Senate Democrats joined 51 Republicans to vote for Trump’s pick for United States District Judge for the Eastern District of Virginia.

So voting for Biden because of judges is a weak argument that shouldn't be made.

 

[Limbo Pete]

42 Senate Democrats joined 51 Republicans to vote for Trump’s pick for United States District Judge for the Eastern District of Virginia.

So voting for Biden because of judges is a weak argument that shouldn't be made.

Is that you, Vladimir?