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Relevant (and good) read about The West Wing and it's effect on American Politics

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/04/how-liberals-fell-in-love-with-the-west-wing

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It’s a smugness born of the view that politics is less a terrain of clashing values and interests than a perpetual pitting of the clever against the ignorant and obtuse. The clever wield facts and reason, while the foolish cling to effortlessly-exposed fictions and the braying prejudices of provincial rubes. In emphasizing intelligence over ideology, what follows is a fetishization of “elevated discourse” regardless of its actual outcomes or conclusions. The greatest political victories involve semantically dismantling an opponent’s argument or exposing its hypocrisy, usually by way of some grand rhetorical gesture. Categories like left and right become less significant, provided that the competing interlocutors are deemed respectably smart and practice the designated etiquette. The Discourse becomes a category of its own, to be protected and nourished by Serious People conversing respectfully while shutting down the stupid with heavy-handed moral sanctimony.

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But if anything gives that worldview pause, it should be the events of the past eight years. Liberals got a real life Josiah Bartlet in the figure of Barack Obama, a charismatic and stylish politician elected on a populist wave. But Obama’s soaring speeches, quintessentially presidential affect, and deference to procedure did little to fundamentally improve the country or prevent his Republican rivals from storming the Congressional barricades at their first opportunity. Confronted by a mercurial TV personality bent on transgressing every norm and truism of Beltway thinking, Democrats responded by exhaustively informing voters of his indecency and hypocrisy, attempting to destroy him countless times with his own logic, but ultimately leaving him completely intact. They smugly taxonomized as “smart” and “dumb” the very electorate they needed to win over, and retreated into an ideological fever dream in which political success doesn’t come from organizing and building power, but from having the most polished arguments and the most detailed policy statements. If you can just crush Trump in the debates, as Bartlet did to Richie, then you’ve won. (That’s not an exaggeration of the worldview. Ezra Klein published an article entitled “Hillary Clinton’s 3 debate performances left the Trump campaign in ruins,” which entirely eliminated the distinction between what happens in debates and what happens in campaigns. The belief that politics is about argument rather than power is likely a symptom of a Democratic politics increasingly incubated in the Ivy League rather than the labor movement.)

Good lord is that piece terrible. I guess it's proof that leftist idiots can misunderstand liberals as badly as rightist idiots can. I was going to say that it reads like something from Jacobin, but apparently the guy does write for them.
 
Well, I just saw that Gottis/Zebby got banned. What for this time?

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This has to stop. I only have so much weed to put into these blunts
 
Yep. I changed my number recently and never again. I had to use snail mail and a damn notary just to access my Roth IRA.

phone number is nearly as important as a social security number because of how heavily we rely on it to identify people.
 
I didn't know before but that dude was Canadian. His religious lunacy, bigotry and trump humping fooled me into thinking he was American

rip? He wasn’t Canadian as far as I know. I recall numerous times he talked about living in the States.
 
rip? He wasn’t Canadian as far as I know. I recall numerous times he talked about living in the States.
The account the stout used a word with a u like how a Canadian or british person would rather than American. Think it was like colour or neighbour. I quoted him asking why he would write it like that. He didn't respond.
 
Good lord is that piece terrible. I guess it's proof that leftist idiots can misunderstand liberals as badly as rightist idiots can. I was going to say that it reads like something from Jacobin, but apparently the guy does write for them.
Anything you particularly object to?
 
So this is the 3rd time Zebby was banned. Any truth to the rumor that its an IP ban after the 3rd account?
 
whats with the forum attracting crazy canadian trumpers? they must be a derided minority at home i guess.
That's exactly the case , the current liberal government has veered from scandal to screw up to scandal and is still favoured if an election were called and that's with a three way vote split on the left and no opposition from the right for the CCrap's.

The come here for affirmation of their nutty views because it's hard for them to find up here .
 
That's exactly the case , the current liberal government has veered from scandal to screw up to scandal and is still favoured if an election were called and that's with a three way vote split on the left and no opposition from the right for the CCrap's.

The come here for affirmation of their nutty views because it's hard for them to find up here .

What if...this isn't the only reason?
 
Anything you particularly object to?

I guess I'll do a longer reply, but it's knocking down strawmen, annoyingly sneaking false assumptions in, the tone is insufferable, etc. Reminds me a bit of James Taranto.
 
phone number is nearly as important as a social security number because of how heavily we rely on it to identify people.

Which is stupid, really. Your number gets out and you start getting hammered by spam calls non stop, your options are to change the number and risk losing access to important things or just deal with the spam forever.
 
Get the Roma Surrectum mod 2 too! It's pretty indepth
Hell yeah. I've been playing Wasteland 3 a lot but I do absolutely love Total War.
I've read a little about those. They couldn't actually fire the cannon while the camel is moving, they'd have the camel sit and then fire. Basically mobile artillery.

Wow holy shit, quite the ordeal. Doubt those people will ever forget it. I wonder if they had to cycle out like you imply.

"Alright Rashid, breaks over! Back to wrestling the camel"

Lol, straight up just pinned him! Camel 50-45.
Yeah the bigger cannons were basically mobile artillery but there was weapons that could be fired from a moving camel.

I mean 25 people don't just fight a camel for six hours with out a hydration break. Unless they wore camelbaks.

Speaking of working together to stop a murderous foe.. check this shit out


Which reminds me.. there's a pretty well documented gang war before two otter families in Singapore.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...at-marina-rivals-again-in-kallang-basin-clash

https://mothership.sg/2017/06/spore...-fatherless-marina-otters-from-bishan-otters/
The Bishan otters realized the patriarch of the Marina otters died and went in for the kill but people guarded the Marina otters until they retreated.

Neat.
 
How the hell could a camel deal with the noise of those cannons? Wouldn’t they be terrified ?
 
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