War Room Lounge v156: If you're only getting the tips maybe that's why you're depressed.

[Gandhi]

Kind of a weird analogy, no?

The whole original point of the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" meme was that it's something that's impossible to do. It is literally impossible to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. It was a joke to talk about something that is impossible to do. In the context of wealth accumulation, it's a joke to believe that by working a bunch of jobs, you're going to become a millionaire or billionaire. It's literally impossible.

That's not really the case with physical exercise and body composition, is it? It's not literally impossible to get in good shape. It's not literally impossible to reduce your body fat. It's cheap and doesn't require a single dollar.

Becoming a billionaire =/= walking more and eating less?

It’s a great analogy because both conflate willpower with environment and what you start the race with.

When for some people 80% of weight loss is controlled by genetics, when the majority of calories are burned through sedentary metabolism, when many solutions prescribed cause the body to take countervailing actions, it is very much like bootstraps. Bootstraps are not impossible when poor people do become rich on occasion (not billionaires but middle class). It’s just a statistical rarity when you look at differences in resources, ability, and environment. That’s why it’s a dumb solution as it will never solve anything, it’s a cope out. Now take an obese person with crap genetics who also is living in poverty, the eat less/walk more solution is just as meaningless.

And FWIW I’m a bit of an ectomorph, no issues losing weight for me.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

How realistic is John Wick anyway?

It’s a documentary and the events are shown in real time.

 

[Sketch]

Yes, that's why we have so many Poles picking strawberries.

They have Polish Mexicans in Sweden?!

 

[Gregolian]

How realistic is John Wick anyway?

In what way? HOW he handles the weapons and how he shoots? Very real given he trained with guys that shoot competitively.

One guy being able to mow through guys like that? Eeeehhhhhh

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Take a deep breathe and relax.

 

[sweede]

Extremely rude

How so? There are apparently more than kafir who get upset about what I write.

If you are not a Pole living in Poland then you may not have knowledge of a tradition we have had since the 80's between 4 neighboring countries. We Swedes think our beer prices are too high in Systembolaget (state owned company with the motto that we should drink less). We go over to Denmark to buy cheap Tuborg and Carlsberg. The Danes in their hand travel across the border to Germany to buy their own brand cheaper. The Germans go over to Poland to buy Polish vodka. The Poles in turn take the ferry to Sweden to pick strawberries in the season we have midsummer celebrations where we eat a lot of herring and strawberries.

Recently, we have also gained a new trading tradition with Norway as they cross the border and among other things, wholesale and buy their own farmed salmon cheaper.

 

[Gandhi]

Both technically true , one is a helluva lot easier than the other and really can be done from home in just minutes a day .

We must be talking about day traders...../

 

[Sketch]

Dude I could not be more relaxed, I'm getting paid to play magic the gathering right now.

Nice.

 

[Corn Pop Hombre]

It’s a great analogy because both conflate willpower with environment and what you start the race with.

When for some people 80% of weight loss is controlled by genetics, when the majority of calories are burned through sedentary metabolism, when many solutions prescribed cause the body to take countervailing actions, it is very much like bootstraps. Bootstraps are not impossible when poor people do become rich on occasion (not billionaires but middle class). It’s just a statistical rarity when you look at differences in resources, ability, and environment. That’s why it’s a dumb solution as it will never solve anything, it’s a cope out. Now take an obese person with crap genetics who also is living in poverty, the eat less/walk more solution is just as meaningless.

And FWIW I’m a bit of an ectomorph, no issues losing weight for me.

I can concede that it's an analogy that has some useful angles to look at, as you've laid out. The context around someone's environment and their genetics are important, and it's never okay to body shame someone, but the solutions in each scenario are not analogous.

If you work three jobs and take out a lot of debt to live the American dream, you're not going to become a millionaire or billionaire. A poor person can become wealthy through hard work but for that to work out it requires timing, luck, connections to capital (of some sort or some degree) and a host of other things to line up perfectly for that poor person to become a millionaire. Getting in shape does not require luck, to any extent. Yes, your genetic dice roll does play a hand. But even if you were born with poor genetics and a slow metabolism, you don't require any degree of luck to burn more calories than you're taking in. That is entirely up to you. Obviously the exceptions are people with like, muscular dystrophy whose genetics literally prevent them from moving.

 

[sweede]

I'll spell this out for you. This website is like anything in life. It's controlled by Humans beings. Human beings form tribes, for better or for worse. The powerful tribe (Admin, mods, people like me etc) have deemed you not part of our cool table. You'll be watched and dealt with much more harshly than say someone who is part of the cool table. It is what it is.

With that being said, you have been fantastic at misbehaving. It has not gone unnoticed. My advice would be to continuing serving my agenda here, but within a safer realm. Tone it down, and go with the flow. If not I will see to it you are continuously on cards.

I see. I thought this was also a place where we could exchange local experiences with the rest of the world. But you are definitely right as I have come and gone in periods and am not as good at reading these behaviors as you describe. I want to take this as a lesson and be less honest and lie a little more.

And that's why I prefer to have conversations in real life where you can read each other's body language and also know when you go too far.

 

[tonni]

In what way? HOW he handles the weapons and how he shoots? Very real given he trained with guys that shoot competitively.

One guy being able to mow through guys like that? Eeeehhhhhh

Is it possible to become him for me

 

[irish_thug]

I see, so my post to you is somewhere in here?

The original one got deleted.

 

[Corn Pop Hombre]

@Gandhi

Also i say this as a natural ectomorph that was stick thin until my late teens, and have now struggled to lose about 30 to 40 pounds over the last 5 years or so. So I've been on both sides of the coin. I'm armed with a decade of nutrition knowledge, I know how to work out, i know how to train. I can acknowledge that its entirely on me and it's been my own laziness, discipline and habitual behaviors that have prevented me from getting the weight off.

 

[tonni]

I'd just rig a puppy with explosives and give it to John Wick as a present.

 

[tonni]

@Gandhi

Also i say this as a natural ectomorph that was stick thin until my late teens, and have now struggled to lose about 30 to 40 pounds over the last 5 years or so. So I've been on both sides of the coin. I'm armed with a decade of nutrition knowledge, I know how to work out, i know how to train. I can acknowledge that its entirely on me and it's been my own laziness, discipline and habitual behaviors that have prevented me from getting the weight off.

Tell us more about how you're a lazy slob.

 

[Clippy]

The original one got deleted.

I'm going to the post office widh me luck

I hate posts and offices

 

[Clippy]

I ate the last of my pepperoni in my fridge

 

[Clippy]

Do you guys have pepperoni in your fridges?

 

[sweede]

The original one got deleted.

Ok, but I´m looking forward for a small PM from you when you have time.

Cheers

 

[Clippy]

Aww that's nice