War Room Lounge v149: FFS, a whole thread in since Saturday?

[tonni]

@Sycho Sid I also think subconsciously they believe they will be rewarded for their loyalty towards the 1 percent, which is of course an absolute illusion.

 

[Sycho Sid]

That thread about the White Lives Matter assualt is actually pretty funny (not the topic obviously)

It is basically a bunch of right wingers patting themselves on the back for denouncing the WLM folks and wondering why libruls don't do the same.

 

[Sycho Sid]

@Sycho Sid I also think subconsciously they believe they will be rewarded for their loyalty towards the 1 percent, which is of course an absolute illusion.

The greatest trick conservatives in America ever pulled was convincing the poor that they are not poor, just temporarily not rich.

 

[tonni]

Time to stop pretending I'm normal on dating sites. My bio is going to be amazing, going to upload some great pictures posing with my household items.

 

[Sycho Sid]

Time to stop pretending I'm normal on dating sites. My bio is going to be amazing, going to upload some great pictures posing with my household items.

You should get a ficus plant and pose with that.

 

[Ruprecht]

It's the beaten woman syndrome. I don't mean this in a demeaning way towards women either, but there's a certain pathology people develop where it's easier on the mind to believe the elite have our best interest at heart, and are capable people that will bring us order in a chaotic world, than to accept that they're actually greedy evil cokeheads.

Some people just like hierarchy. Shitting on those they think are beneath them and kissing arse to those above. The "natural order".
Although there's actually less of that with the rise of populism.

 

[tonni]

The greatest trick conservatives in America ever pulled was convincing the poor that they are not poor, just temporarily not rich.

It's funny how conservative's distrust of the government shifts depending on what the narrative is. Remember, cops were going to put you all in FEMA camps but also cops are actually heroes even though they beat up protesters. The elite are hideous liberal s but also actually they should be the only one to have voting rights.

 

[tonni]

You should get a ficus plant and pose with that.

 

[Ruprecht]

It's funny how conservative's distrust of the government shifts depending on what the narrative is. Remember, cops were going to put you all in FEMA camps but also cops are actually heroes even though they beat up protesters. The elite are hideous liberal s but also actually they should be the only one to have voting rights.

Well, we've seen the rise of the cults of populist "strongmen" with autocratic tendencies across the world.
So it's clear people have lost faith in process and institutions and just want someone that's going to do the things they want done regardlesss. Or at least say they are going to do them.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

My beliefs are more along the lines of “if you are not a net-positive tax contributor, you shouldn’t be allowed to vote”.

One of the reasons why democracy is probably doomed to fail, is that many people just vote for the guy that promises free shit.

People that pay more in tax, arguably should have more of a say in how that tax is actually used.

Maybe this is a different Gooner...

Women shouldn't be allowed to vote. When society collapses and the dust settles, if we somehow pull ourselves from the rubble of society and rebuild civilisation, this will be the lesson we have learned.

 

[Sycho Sid]

Well, we've seen the rise of the cults of populist "strongmen" with autocratic tendencies across the world.
So it's clear people have lost faith in process and institutions and just want someone that's going to do the things they want done regardlesss. Or at least say they are going to do them.

They just want the easy answer. They want the guy (and it has to be a guy) to come in, tell them he can fix all their problems, reassure them that their problems are not their fault, and wrap them in a nice blanket authoritarianism.

 

[Danger Dave]

Just looked it up, crazy that Blockbuster could have bought Netflix for $50 million and turned it down. Netflix is now worth $125 billion.


2 Fast 2 Feminist probably.


La La Land 2 sounds fucked up tbh.

blockbuster got busted. I cancelled netflix a few years ago and started using hulu and was great til hulu lost all of their contracts with the office and stuff. Still great for B99. Rebought Netflix last month and they definantly stepped their game up. Since im flush with money ima just keep both but netflix wins.

 

[BAM]

Well, we've seen the rise of the cults of populist "strongmen" with autocratic tendencies across the world.
So it's clear people have lost faith in process and institutions and just want someone that's going to do the things they want done regardlesss. Or at least say they are going to do them.

when you look at all those coups in Africa, the pattern seems to be there's a democracy for a while, then somebody gets elected in that gets accused of corruption (it's always corruption). Then a populist right wing authoritarian military figure comes in and deposes the leader under the grounds of corruption. That leader and his followers are executed, the new military leader suspends the constitution, rules for about 10 years and then another person comes and deposes him, rinse and repeat.

Having faith in public institutions and equality before the law are the two foremost keys to having the rule of law. The American public across the board perception seems to be that the government is corrupt at a local, state, and federal level - legislative, courts and executive branches. As well as the 4th estate - the media. And also that there is a two-tiered justice system. In such an environment, It's only a matter of time before something bad happens in that state and a populist tries to seize power and upend the system, whether it is an authoritarian approaching from the right or a socialist approaching from the left. I don't think it will be a bloody coup, but there will be a political reckoning for these parties over the next 10 years.

 

[Ruprecht]

They just want the easy answer. They want the guy (and it has to be a guy) to come in, tell them he can fix all their problems, reassure them that their problems are not their fault, and wrap them in a nice blanket authoritarianism.

Sure, but you're downplaying the populist angle. Which is to specifically lay the blame at the feet of the "elite", the system and the institutions. This is common to both the left and right varieties, and simple "answers" to complex problems are always a part of that.
It's not only right-wing populism that's been gaining traction, although it's certainly the most likely to spawn the "strong man" figures as we've seen with Bolsanaro, Trump, Maduro, Modi, Duterte, Orban, Netanyahu, Erdogan, Putin etc.

 

[JDragon]

What did they do with your old hip?

There's collectors for this stuff

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[Sycho Sid]

Sure, but you're downplaying the populist angle. Which is to specifically lay the blame at the feet of the "elite", the system and the institutions. This is common to both the left and right varieties, and simple "answers" to complex problems are always a part of that.
It's not only right-wing populism that's been gaining traction, although it's certainly the most likely to spawn the "strong man" figures as we've seen with Bolsanaro, Trump, Maduro, Modi, Duterte, Orban, Netanyahu, Erdogan, Putin etc.

Didn't mean to downplay the populist angle at all. I just never figured out how Trump managed to portray himself as not an elite.

 

[Prokofievian]

I liked the crab cake talk more

Of course you did you fat piece of shit.

 

[Ruprecht]

Didn't mean to downplay the populist angle at all. I just never figured out how Trump managed to portray himself as not an elite.

By being a political "outsider" and the whole "deep state" narrative about the institutions. Doesn't matter how wealthy or corrupt he is through that lens.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Didn't mean to downplay the populist angle at all. I just never figured out how Trump managed to portray himself as not an elite.

W did the same thing , I don't get it either although the mark is the same in both cases.

 

[Prokofievian]

I honestly think he just heard a term, added progressive to it, and thought it sounded good.

Except he also used POCDCS quite a few times when he first went mental.