War Room Lounge v136: I Have No Mouth And I Must Ooof

[tonni]

I'm so fucking tired of moving

Are you okay sire

 

[Joe]

Again, which -populist issues? The ones that overlap with left populist issues?

Twitter bans apparently. But greenwald can't see right wing nationalists oppose things for different reasons. In the end the right oppose the things the left believes in. right wing populists support a president that cut taxes for the rich to fill the pockets of the rich and keeps spending soaring for the military. This the "populism" that he agrees with. Which makes it more ironic of his denouncing of liberals.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

That's where I am at too. SO for instance I think hunting is an ethical way to harvest meat so long as the hunt itself is performed ethically.

I'm not an expert either but its almost certainly the case that current levels of beef consumption would be practically impossible to meet with free range beef, not to mention there are environmental concerns with free range beef as well(they push indigenous wildlife off their land, can contaminate rivers and streams with the volume of their shit, they can compact the ground and make it harder for water to seep into aquifers etc).

I truly believe that if we want a sustainable society when it comes to things like food and energy we need to not only rethink how we can generate a supply of sustainable food/energy but also how we can change and reduce demand. Consider Cuba, by some metrics the only sustainable country with a reasonable level of development.

And in Cuba its often joked that you get in more trouble for slaughtering a cow than for killing a person. That's just one luxury that we Americans take for granted that Cuba lacks and that contributes to the gap in sustainability. The problem is Cubans live like that not out of choice but out of necessity due to the hardships imposed by the twin evils of the authoritarian communist government and the American embargo. So for instance, organic farming is becoming really popular on the island due to the fact that the country no longer receives agricultural inputs from the USSR with the American embargo not making it any easier. So Cubans without those things I think Cubans would jump head first into the completely unsustainable but irresistibly alluring lifestyle of America.

The current level of beef consumption isn't sustainable let alone an increase .

I was the last person you would have thought would go plant based , sevenish years ago my wife wanted to do meatless Monday dinners , not even all day , just dinner and I balked at it , it was health issues that ended up causing the shift .

Going 100% vegan isn't easy but cutting way back is .

Eating less ( or no ) meat is better for you , better for the environment and it's better for the animals.

 

[tonni]

Its not a surprise though. This is why greenwald over looks the white nationalism of tucker because it's not something that is a big deal to the over all picture of working with the "populist" right. Big lol at tucker being a populist too.

Like a modern age Molotov-Ribbentrop pact!

 

[tonni]

I'm so fucking tired of moving

Are you okay? I’ve been a professional mover, need some help? I would get you a drink right out of my cooler, you could sit down somewhere and I take care of everything. Will you let me?

 

[Rational Poster]

What is it?

DrDisrespect permanently canceled.

 

[tonni]

DrDisrespect permanently canceled.

 

[Joe]

Like a modern age Molotov-Ribbentrop pact!

You aren't even that far from that. This is some fascist state TV level of lunacy. Probably trying to impress Trump since he's probably watching.

 

[Rational Poster]

Well this morning he was a top5 twitch streamer with over 28,000 paid monthly subs.

They just refunded all his active subs and deleted all his emotes.

 

[Joe]

...the left should allow room for good policies from the right, populist or otherwise.

Agreeing with someone from a different party isn't my issue. My issue is thing is. Is there a right wing populist that isn't rooted in white minority paranoia? A corporatists populist sounds pretty ridiculous but tucker is apparently one according to greenwald.

 

[Sketch]

Very groovy.

 

[tonni]

Well this morning he was a top5 twitch streamer with over 28,000 paid monthly subs.

They just refunded all his active subs and deleted all his emotes.

I don’t understand twitch but maybe I should make it and get rich.

 

[tonni]

You aren't even that far from that. This is some fascist state TV level of lunacy. Probably trying to impress Trump since he's probably watching.

They’d just arrest everyone, call them antifa and that’ll be that.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Twitter bans apparently. But greenwald can't see right wing nationalists oppose things for different reasons. In the end the right oppose the things the left believes in. right wing populists support a president that cut taxes for the rich to fill the pockets of the rich and keeps spending soaring for the military. This the "populism" that he agrees with. Which makes it more ironic of his denouncing of liberals.

Twitter bans? Serious.y? With all due respect, yourre all over the place and not making any sense. Glen isn’t pro-right wing populism, he doesn’t support trump (in fact he’s vehemently opposed to trump and bolsanaro), and he doesn’t support tax cuts for the rich, or the military industrial complex.

you started the off by claiming Glen thinks Tucker is a good guy and you haven’t been able to support that. ‘what do you think about Obama saying that he thinks W is a good guy, a guy who lied the world into a war that wound up murdereding 1,000,000 people? Obama is a guy who worked across the aisle to cut social security. Are these the kind of liberal positions he’s denouncing?

 

[Trotsky]

DrDisrespect permanently canceled.

DrDisrespect? Mick would never idolize someone with a name that childish. He's an intellectual.

 

[Sketch]

Great graph. I've never seen it before.

And yeah, Cuba's place on the X-axis isn't there by choice, but its Y-axis position is. And of course, it's there despite the 60-year attacks by the world's lone superpower. Imagine how much higher it'd be without it. But that's another topic.

Seems like Latin America, Pacific Asia and maaaaaaybe Eastern and Central Europe are somewhat on the right track. Goddamn, the US is just outrageous though. Might be beyond salvation. This country celebrates big ass V8s, all you can eat buffets, and shit like "retail therapy" way too much.

In many ways America is an abomination. Like the 7 deadly sins wrapped up all neatly into one enormous country that actually celebrates it's bad side openly. CANadians are pretty damn gluttonous and materialistic too but at least we try to be somewhat discreet about it and we do say sorry a lot as well.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

...the left should allow room for good policies from the right, populist or otherwise.

 

[Joe]

Twitter bans? Serious.y? With all due respect, yourre all over the place and not making any sense. Glen isn’t pro-right wing populism, he doesn’t support trump (in fact he’s vehemently opposed to trump and bolsanaro), and he doesn’t support tax cuts for the rich, or the military industrial complex.

you started the off by claiming Glen thinks Tucker is a good guy and you haven’t been able to support that. ‘what do you think about Obama saying that he thinks W is a good guy, a guy who lied the world into a war that wound up murdereding 1,000,000 people? Obama is a guy who worked across the aisle to cut social security. Are these the kind of liberal positions he’s denouncing?

Glenn isn't pro right wing populist but yet he thinks he can make deals with them? You'd think he'd be smart enough to see through the bs artists like Tucker who would have mocked populism 10 years ago. The Tucker who supported the Iraq war. The fact he takes Tucker seriously is laughable in the first place.

 

[Sycho Sid]

Are you okay? I’ve been a professional mover, need some help? I would get you a drink right out of my cooler, you could sit down somewhere and I take care of everything. Will you let me?

Already finished, but thanks for the offer.

 

[Rational Poster]

DrDisrespect? Mick would never idolize someone with a name that childish. He's an intellectual.

Pretty sure he made a thread about him in the arcade.