War Room Lounge v133: This is Lead's fault.

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CubicleGangster said:
a hardcore song for the bastards

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I raise you a beat the bastards.

Best show I've ever been to in my life (that isn't Gogol Bordello) was The Unseen, AKAs, The Casulties, and Anti Flag. Since it was in Oklahoma City and maybe a thousand punks and skinheads came from all around the OKCPD decided private security wouldn't be good enough so they filled in. The pigs were fucking with everyone all night being super aggressive so Anti Flag opens with Fuck Police Brutality. It turned into a fucking brawl. Cops swinging mag lights at random, people swinging at the cops while the entire crowd was surging screaming Fuck Police, Fuck Police, Fuck Police Brutality.

By the time they get to Die For the Government it was a borderline riot.

Fun fact about the Exploited, I knew a dude working the British invasion show that turned into a riot when a Neo nazi stabbed someone, and when the crowd went to get him the cops threw tear gas into a PACKED venue. So a riot exploded. My buddy was in the back hanging with Monkey from The Adicts and they stole all of Wattie (from the Exploiteds) beer and he threw a fucking fit. Turns out he's kind of a prickly dude lol.
 
AgonyandIrony said:
Have you ever read the book or seen the documentary American Hardcore?
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So fucking good.
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no. it's one of those things that's been on my radar for years, but I haven't gotten around to. I love that it's "American Hardcore" but lists D.O.A. as one of the bands (who are still at it by the way).
 
Sara said:
For all of us who aren’t Fawlty, what’s wrong with Heber City
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It's a 45-60 minute drive to downtown SLC. And it's up in the Wasatch mountains. So it can get near 91 in the summers... and in the winters it can drop below 0 Farenheit.

The house is fucking beautiful and it matches everything my parents would want in a house. Size wise, amount of bedrooms and bathrooms, the view, being on a golf course type area... it's just the distance from downtown worries me. Partially cause of my parent's age. I know Park City and Heber City have hospitals but anything specialized.... they have to come downtown to do it.
 
irish_thug said:
no. it's one of those things that's been on my radar for years, but I haven't gotten around to. I love that it's "American Hardcore" but lists D.O.A. as one of the bands (who are still at it by the way).
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I was obsessed with it when I was 16, read it like it was like the bible. All I wanted in the world was to be a punk rock historian after reading it and an AFA indymedia journalist (social media straight up killed Indymedia.) A shame, a lot of documented resistance during the Anti War protests that have been lost due to everyone pretending they were anti Iraq War now. Dudes used to use lacrosse sticks to chuck teargas back lol.

It's so well written, literally everything is documented there and broken down by scene.

What era hardcore are you mostly into?
 
AgonyandIrony said:
Asians?
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Look at the Demos of the town:
" The racial makeup of the city was 87.7% White, 0.4% African American, 0.8% Native American, 1.1% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 18.4% of the population."

That's from Wiki. It's basically the same size and make up of the town I went to high school in. And like 20 minutes from Park City which I bet my mom would enjoy. But it's buried in the fucking mountains which has me somewhat worried.
 
Gregolian said:
Look at the Demos of the town:
" The racial makeup of the city was 87.7% White, 0.4% African American, 0.8% Native American, 1.1% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 18.4% of the population."

That's from Wiki. It's basically the same size and make up of the town I went to high school in. And like 20 minutes from Park City which I bet my mom would enjoy. But it's buried in the fucking mountains which has me somewhat worried.
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Utah seems like a weird fucking place. Why are you worried about it bein buried in the mountains? Avalanches? Yetis?
 
AgonyandIrony said:
Utah seems like a weird fucking place. Why are you worried about it bein buried in the mountains? Avalanches? Yetis?
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My dad was born in 1938 and has had one knee surgery already. He also used to smoke a pack and a half a day until the late 1970s/early 1980s so I am sure there is lung damage. Also, my mom was born in the 50s. What worries me mostly is snow removal and shit. Yes, I can drive up there to help them with it no problem but this last winter we got slammed by a winter storm where it dropped over an inch in an hour for like 14 hours straight. There's no way I can help with that unless I live there with them.

Also, one of the attorneys I worked with his wife had pregnancy complications and they live in Park City. She had to get transported by helicopter to one of the downtown hospitals because the Park City hospital (which is bigger than the one in Heber) can handle broken bone emergencies and things but it's not where you go if you have to stay in hospital for a lengthy amount of time.

Granted, it's only like 30-45 minutes to Provo though but it's just the semi-remoteness that worries me.

Granted, where the house is the neighborhood likely handles the snow removal for the people that live there.
 
Gregolian said:
My dad was born in 1938 and has had one knee surgery already. He also used to smoke a pack and a half a day until the late 1970s/early 1980s so I am sure there is lung damage. Also, my mom was born in the 50s. What worries me mostly is snow removal and shit. Yes, I can drive up there to help them with it no problem but this last winter we got slammed by a winter storm where it dropped over an inch in an hour for like 14 hours straight. There's no way I can help with that unless I live there with them.

Also, one of the attorneys I worked with his wife had pregnancy complications and they live in Park City. She had to get transported by helicopter to one of the downtown hospitals because the Park City hospital (which is bigger than the one in Heber) can handle broken bone emergencies and things but it's not where you go if you have to stay in hospital for a lengthy amount of time.

Granted, it's only like 30-45 minutes to Provo though but it's just the semi-remoteness that worries me.

Granted, where the house is the neighborhood likely handles the snow removal for the people that live there.
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Aw you're a good dude Greggy. My grandmother lived in S Dakota and they got snowed in in ways I didn't know you even could in the US. As long as you make sure they're always prepared they should be okay. Are they homebodies?
 
AgonyandIrony said:
<31>

I was obsessed with it when I was 16, read it like it was like the bible. All I wanted in the world was to be a punk rock historian after reading it and an AFA indymedia journalist (social media straight up killed Indymedia.) A shame, a lot of documented resistance during the Anti War protests that have been lost due to everyone pretending they were anti Iraq War now. Dudes used to use lacrosse sticks to chuck teargas back lol.

It's so well written, literally everything is documented there and broken down by scene.

What era hardcore are you mostly into?
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Mostly late 80's to mid 90's NYHC, but I love me some cromags, DOA and Black Flag.
 
AgonyandIrony said:
Aw you're a good dude Greggy. My grandmother lived in S Dakota and they got snowed in in ways I didn't know you even could in the US. As long as you make sure they're always prepared they should be okay. Are they homebodies?
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They're sort of becoming home bodies but I can't tell if it's because of where they live now the house is like 3500 sq feet and is on 5 acres of land so they're stuck at home dealing with that all the time or if it's by choice.

Granted, it snows enough out here my Xmas gift to them/welcome to Utah gift would probably be a small gas powered snow blower to make snow clearing any easier.

The hospital is the bigger issue to me personally. The one thing I know is my folks still use stuff like Costco cause it means they don't have to go shopping as much but it'd also give my folks a weekly outing so to speak. Plus it's super pretty up there. My mom grew up on a small island in Japan that was in a massive bay outside Hiroshima connected to the Pacific Ocean. So moving to Utah means she'll be away from the ocean for really the first time in her life. She wants to be able to at least see mountains so living in them up there from that house, with that awesome deck and the view it has.... I bet she'd love it.

PLUS, that kitchen looks fucking top notch and it'd be nice to use to make them meals once in awhile.
 
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