War Room Lounge V129: Ignored Content Edition

[Pseudo Sane]

I'm fighting the daily urge to start a war and exterminate peoples. Will have a garden finally in a couple of months, so maybe I will be lucky and a couple wasps settle there for me

I'm praying you get murder hornets, for the challenge.

You're welcome.

 

[Falsedawn]

PS where did the meme thread go?

Probably started by someone you have on ignore.

 

[Lead]

Agreeing it’s bad and doing something about it are 2 different things.

I would say something was being done about "it". "it" could be way broader however with what you are talking about. That guy was fired and arrested. I don't see what more could be done. Arony was mentioning the other three cops which could be something. For the past four or so years, I've been saying every cop should have a body cam. There are some decent practical policies that could at least steer things the right way but they aren't brought up a lot when these incidents happen. It just becomes a broad talk about racism with no clear solution which to me, is very destructive. If we could get the media to make even 20% of their coverage about policy on this issue, we'd be 10x better off than where we are now.

 

[Pseudo Sane]

Probably started by someone you have on ignore.

Oh yeah, that explains it. Covfefe's posts made the whole thing unbearable.

 

[Lead]

I don't think we've played yet, actually. What's your chess.com handle?

Oh shitttt! It's going down!

 

[Pseudo Sane]

Oh shitttt! It's going down!

@Social Distance Warrior challenge issued. I'm Tooraloo.

 

[Lead]

@Social Distance Warrior challenge issued. I'm Tooraloo.

I give you the slight betting favorite but you both crushed me pretty bad so who knows.

 

[Pseudo Sane]

I give you the slight betting favorite but you both crushed me pretty bad so who knows.

My understanding is that @Social Distance Warrior has a much higher rating than me, so I expect him to give me a pretty good kicking.

I do much better in daily chess than rapid, bullet or blitz though, so who knows.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

My understanding is that @Social Distance Warrior has a much higher rating than me, so I expect him to give me a pretty good kicking.

I do much better in daily chess than rapid, bullet or blitz though, so who knows.

Yea, bullet and blitz have ruined my long game...but I'll give it a go.

Good luck

 

[Pseudo Sane]

Great post. But if I may, I think the fact that the police are traditionally immune from public standards. I find that due to the short term rise of the US as a superpower we tend to suffer when it comes to putting things into perspective historically.

It's also shows the discrepancy in morality based American politics, no American should he okay with seeing how the police is acting. The amount of people calling on murdering protestors is astonishing and reflects the hollow values we hide behind.

But there's almost no reason in discussing it anymore outside of with posters I respect. I've been accused of being an FBI pigeon and also getting pegged in Gitmo in the last two days.the discourse here has gotten to Facebook level.

A shame.

I'm having information overload with the protests/riots. Too many cities, each with their own dynamic, and far too much misinformation. Hard to get a handle on things.

Tigers loose in Oakland.
good, the place has finally become civilized.

The Tigers are returning to Oakland. Nature is healing.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I would say something was being done about "it". "it" could be way broader however with what you are talking about. That guy was fired and arrested. I don't see what more could be done. Arony was mentioning the other three cops which could be something. For the past four or so years, I've been saying every cop should have a body cam. There are some decent practical policies that could at least steer things the right way but they aren't brought up a lot when these incidents happen. It just becomes a broad talk about racism with no clear solution which to me, is very destructive. If we could get the media to make even 20% of their coverage about policy on this issue, we'd be 10x better off than where we are now.

“It” is broader. Arresting the officer (which would not have happened if this wasn’t not only filmed, but viral, too) isn’t doing something about. Changing the culture so that this never happened in the first place is doing something about it.

 

[Falsedawn]

My understanding is that @Social Distance Warrior has a much higher rating than me, so I expect him to give me a pretty good kicking.

I do much better in daily chess than rapid, bullet or blitz though, so who knows.

Standing by for results

 

[Pseudo Sane]

Standing by for results

I mean, it's a daily game, so it could take weeks...

 

[Falsedawn]

I mean, it's a daily game, so it could take weeks...

We can wait.

 

[Lead]

“It” is broader. Arresting the officer (which would not have happened if this wasn’t not only filmed, but viral, too) isn’t doing something about. Changing the culture so that this never happened in the first place is doing something about it.

Culture is something important but translating that to doing something is very difficult. What I stated actually goes to exactly what you said. Put a body cam on every cop and you most certainly will have more evidence when there’s misconduct like this. There’s other things like separating authorities investigating misconduct too. There are concrete ways to make the system better.

 

[senri]

Culture is something important but translating that to doing something is very difficult. What I stated actually goes to exactly what you said. Put a body cam on every cop and you most certainly will have more evidence when there’s misconduct like this. There’s other things like separating authorities investigating misconduct too. There are concrete ways to make the system better.

What about the Camdem model of local police taking over the precincts to make it more inclusive?

 

[Lead]

What about the Camdem model of local police taking over the precincts to make it more inclusive?

I’m not familiar with this. Do you have a link about it.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Culture is something important but translating that to doing something is very difficult. What I stated actually goes to exactly what you said. Put a body cam on every cop and you most certainly will have more evidence when there’s misconduct like this. There’s other things like separating authorities investigating misconduct too. There are concrete ways to make the system better.

How about stop protecting them, like they protected Derek Chsuvin? That would be a great start.

 

[Lead]

How about stop protecting them, like they protected Derek Chsuvin? That would be a great start.

Okay. Look at what I’m saying and what you are saying. Wouldn’t you say my stuff is more structured and clearer to know when it’s accomplished while yours is broader and hard to implement or at least know when it’s accomplished? I get culture needs to change but saying that doesn’t do anything and I highly doubt riots make police culture anymore empathetic for this. They aren’t going to fix that from within. You have to think of direct policy measures that either rebalance systems of power or change incentives. The national discussion needs to be more concrete and it never is. We just talk about racism or police brutality emotionally and wonder why nothing improves. Movements can motivate changes but the change itself is policy/ laws.

 

[Prokofievian]

I don't know how people do this 0 carb bullshit as a lifestyle. This fucking sucks.