WAR ROOM LOUNGE V10: It's all in the hips

[Gregolian]

Hmm. Was RJJ/Griffin I controversial? Jones blatantly hit him twice after he took a knee, and he was unable to continue. Not sure what choice the ref had. Jones was also arguably losing to that point, though he seemed to have turned it around.

That might be it but I know there was one where people thought he was winning and then he blasted the dude in the rematch.

Martinez/Williams 1 and 2 are another pair of fights I can think of. Williams scraped by with a Majority decision in the first fight just to be on the receiving end of a brutal highlight KO in the rematch a year later.




EDIT:
God I love how Bernthal plays this character.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Yeah, if I had to predict the scenario I buy most on how the fight's going to go, it's DC taking a terrible beating or getting finished fairly early, depending. I'll be rooting for him, though. One of my favorite fighters, while Stipe just isn't that fun for me, though I have a lot of respect for him.

Also rooting for DC here, seems like a good dude and is a great fighter when he's at his peak. Also I like seeing greatness and having the LHW champ dethrone the HW champ is a bigger deal than the HW champ defending against the LHW champ.

I don't bet on MMA often anymore, but I put $1,000 down on Cormier at +240.

And, from reading your post and knowing that you watch the sport more faithfully than I do, that was probably a mistake. But Cormier c. 2012 at heavyweight was significantly more impressive to me than Stipe now. If he can look like he did against Bigfoot and Barnett, I like his chances.

Likewise, Cormier is probably my favorite active fighter outside of Cain and Nick Diaz....who one would stretch to call active anyways.

I agree though to be fair Stipe has fought better comp at HW.

I believe that if somebody created an account called "This Is A Troll Account," started posting here on day 1, and did nothing but troll in a rather obvious way, about 30% of the WR would defend that person and say it wasn't a troll account.

 

[Trotsky]

Good lord, the shit posting is real in the "Christian Nigerians BTFO" thread.

 

[Gregolian]

@Trotsky

I avoid any religion overtone threads nowadays. Just can't do it anymore.

 

[Trotsky]

@Trotsky

I avoid any religion overtone threads nowadays. Just can't do it anymore.

Christians good. White people good. Muslims bad. Black people bad. Libtard, regressive leftists, so much for tolerant liberals. Dunning-Kruger.

Saved you a click.

 

[Gregolian]

Christians good. White people good. Muslims bad. Black people bad. Libtard, regressive leftists, so much for tolerant liberals. Dunning-Kruger.

Saved you a click.

Maybe it's cause I sit in a different portion of the political spectrum but this is how it always ends up for me:
- R's do the "Christians good, Muslims evil blahblah"
- D's do the "but the Crusades! Not all Muslims"
- R's do the "Not all gun owners" retort
- AbiG whines about Israel
- EVERYONE piles on him
- Thread gets dumped

And my usual post of choice:

 

[Tekk]

It should be like the OT used to be everywhere but the Heavies. 150 posts before you can post in any other forum. Hell, maybe even 500 posts.

150 is really low goal for trolls, most those guys just spam threads with a bunch of back and forth with a couple posters. Pessymistic is.a perfect example, 30 post a day for 2 weeks..

 

[Islam Imamate]

Good lord, the shit posting is real in the "Christian Nigerians BTFO" thread.

Always obliged to serve my friends and neighbors

 

[Gregolian]

150 is really low goal for trolls, most those guys just spam threads with a bunch of back and forth with a couple posters. Pessymistic is.a perfect example, 30 post a day for 2 weeks..

That SEEMS bad but it's easy to rack up excess of 35 posts a day in a single hour of a lunch break if you post primarily in like the WR, VGF, or Heavies.

Hell, the Sports Bar if you were to be in there for any length of time you could probably bump up on 70 posts per day.

 

[Trotsky]

Maybe it's cause I sit in a different portion of the political spectrum but this is how it always ends up for me:
- R's do the "Christians good, Muslims evil blahblah"
- D's do the "but the Crusades! Not all Muslims"
- R's do the "Not all gun owners" retort
- AbiG whines about Israel
- EVERYONE piles on him
- Thread gets dumped

And my usual post of choice:

I think that not all Muslims + not all Christians + recognize the humanity of both adherents + don't prejudge, let alone cheer for their death on the basis of their religion = the correct equation, generally.

 

[Gregolian]

I think that not all Muslims + not all Christians + recognize the humanity of both adherents + don't prejudge, let alone cheer for their death on the basis of their religion = the correct equation, generally.

At this stage on a personal level I kinda wonder if the Greeks, early Romans, and Norse among others have it right with religion.

The idea that there's a single omnipotent being that is interested in the daily workings of you and me seems ridiculous and the South Park/Futurama idea that the Gods (if they exist) use us as their version of a really REALLY hyper violent sitcom seems more logical.

 

[Final Rehab]

Costas always seemed like he thought he was just as important as the athletes he covered.

When I read this I immediately wondered how many posters here are old enough to remember Howard Cosell. His level of self-importance was legendary and I doubt the level of hatred he inspired as a sports announcer will ever be topped.

However this is a prick I can't stand...

I'll never forget his interview of David Reid after he lost to Felix Trinidad. Reid suffered from a freak injury earlier in his career that made one of his eyes seem droopy. After Reid got smacked around for 12 rounds against Trinidad, Gray made a comment during the post-fight interview of Reid (paraphrasing here it was a long time ago), "Now maybe you'll end up with two droopy eyes". I've never seen a sports announcer need his ass kicked so badly as that moment.

 

[Trotsky]

At this stage on a personal level I kinda wonder if the Greeks, early Romans, and Norse among others have it right with religion.

The idea that there's a single omnipotent being that is interested in the daily workings of you and me seems ridiculous and the South Park/Futurama idea that the Gods (if they exist) use us as their version of a really REALLY hyper violent sitcom seems more logical.

I can't speak to the logic of the matter (I certainly don't think Greek or Roman religion was any more logical than Abrahamic religions, and I'm not at all acquainted with Norse lore), but I do question the sort of nihilism that is promoted by a theological view akin to the Greeks', which may or may not have been staved off by the spread of Christianity and Islam, both of which preach the value of individual life and the innate goodness of humankind.

I would really be interested how, in the coming decades and centuries, Islamic law adapts. While it is obviously very conservative re things like LGBTQ rights, blasphemy, contraceptive rights, etc., it is also rooted in a level of cooperative morality that I think is fascinating, for instance in agricultural tenancy.

 

[Jack V Savage]

When I read this I immediately wondered how many posters here are old enough to remember Howard Cosell. His level of self-importance was legendary and I doubt the level of hatred he inspired as a sports announcer will ever be topped.

However this is a prick I can't stand...

I'll never forget his interview of David Reid after he lost to Felix Trinidad. Reid suffered from a freak injury earlier in his career that made one of his eyes seem droopy. After Reid got smacked around for 12 rounds against Trinidad, Gray made a comment during the post-fight interview of Reid (paraphrasing here it was a long time ago), "Now maybe you'll end up with two droopy eyes". I've never seen a sports announcer need his ask kicked so badly as that moment.

Just to nitpick, Reid won the first half of that fight. I remember Trinidad saying that Reid was the hardest puncher he ever faced.

 

[Tekk]

However this is a prick I can't stand...

Larry Merchant also comes to mind, you could clearly hear his bias in his commentating. He also had some douchey questions during post fight interviews .

 

[Gregolian]

I can't speak to the logic of the matter (I certainly don't think Greek or Roman religion was any more logical than Abrahamic religions, and I'm not at all acquainted with Norse lore), but I do question the sort of nihilism that is promoted by a theological view akin to the Greeks', which may or may not have been staved off by the spread of Christianity and Islam, both of which preach the value of individual life and the innate goodness of humankind.

I would really be interested how, in the coming decades and centuries, Islamic law adapts. While it is obviously very conservative re things like LGBTQ rights, blasphemy, contraceptive rights, etc., it is also rooted in a level of cooperative morality that I think is fascinating, for instance in agricultural tenancy.

My statement is built on the premise of "let's assume there IS something higher than us" essentially.

Islam needs to go though their version of a Reformation essentially. If you compare it to the other two Abrahamic religions it's the youngest child of the family. If Judaism is in a professional career then Christianity is finishing up University and Islam is currently going into the 4th grade essentially.

EDIT:
My understanding of the Nordic Gods is also pretty limited but essentially that Odin was considered the father of everyone with his sons Thor and Loki also being portions of the pantheons of Gods. Vikings, it's my understanding, believed that the moment of their death was already set the moment they were born and that if they died in battle that is what they wanted as the Valkyries would descend onto the battlefield to claim "the righteous dead" for Odin's great meadhall in Valhalla for the coming battle of the end times known as Ragnarok when the majority of the Gods would die save for I think Thor and one or two others.

 

[Scheme]

 

[Islam Imamate]

I would really be interested how, in the coming decades and centuries, Islamic law adapts. While it is obviously very conservative re things like LGBTQ rights, blasphemy, contraceptive rights, etc., it is also rooted in a level of cooperative morality that I think is fascinating, for instance in agricultural tenancy.

I think if Islamic law is to survive the modern world it has to know its place and recognize where it can fit. IMO it should be applied the way it was in the early modern period, as an arbitration court of last resort. Back then local customs and elders could usually adjudicate disputes in house so to speak but if that didn't work then you pay a fee to the local sharia court to arbitrate the dispute. I've even read of cases of Christians going to sharia courts when they felt their own community didn't do them justice, such as the case of a Christian women who wanted a divorce from her husband who had abandoned her for over a year.

In many Muslim countries the state is either horribly corrupt, weak or both so providing arbitration services rooted in a shared tradition that still commands a lot of respect could be a vital service. I think that's better than the more coercive models of Iran or Saudi Arabia.

 

[Stargazer Rex]

HELLO YOU WAR FROM FREAKZ, I'M A FREAK TOO

 

[Gregolian]

HELLO YOU WAR FROM FREAKZ, I'M A FREAK TOO

We know, you drafted a kicker in the 1st round last year during fantasy.

And still somehow almost made the playoffs if it wasn't for my come from behind win that still has @HomerThompson salty as fuck