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War Room Lounge Thread v119: The barnacles and shmegma(sic) reached a critical mass

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Super with Rainn Wilson is the GOAT comic book movie

Haven't seen that, but Scott Pilgrim vs. the World would be my pick. Spider-man 2 would be my pick if we limit it to super-hero movies. But I haven't seen most of them.

Ed: Thought Dark City was based on a comic (it would be high on my list if so), but apparently not. Might have been mixing it up with the inferior Sin City.
 
Hmm, I never saw it that way though I'm not saying that's wrong. I think with Near Eastern and South Asian women that's more the case since the misogyny of their societies is frequently emphasized in mainstream discourse but the stereotype of the East Asian man is not of a raging misogynist but rather an effeminate, impotent male. So I think here more so than white savior its more like white machismo where they view themselves as taking the women of "beta" men, kinda like the way interracial BBC cuckhold porn is often framed around a hyper-masculine black male taking the white woman of an effeminate white male.

Maybe I'm splitting hairs here, either way we can agree...
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Maybe but I think if so that it’s a fallacy. I guess that may be the case in Japan or South Korea, but even in those countries there is still misogyny more in line with most of the developing world more so than in Western Europe or USA/Canada.
I've known a few asian women (korean, chinese, and indian mostly) who have issues with men of their culture. I wonder to what extent that is related to external views of asian men.
If it isn’t related to the external views, I would bet it often has more to do with their being misogynistic than effeminate. Do you mean women born in those countries?
 
https://www.kentucky.com/news/state/kentucky/article242331811.html
Beshear called it a prank, but Tupac Shakur really does need his unemployment check

Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear went full Dad-mode during his Monday night news conference, calling out the “bad apples” who filed for unemployment under fake names during the coronavirus pandemic.

“We had somebody apply for unemployment for Tupac Shakur here in Kentucky,” Beshear said, likely thinking of the rapper who died in the 90s. “And that person may have thought they were being funny, they probably did. Except for the fact that because of them, we had to go through so many other claims.”

One problem: Tupac Shakur does live in Kentucky. And he’s waiting on his unemployment benefits.

 
Haven't seen that, but Scott Pilgrim vs. the World would be my pick. Spider-man 2 would be my pick if we limit it to super-hero movies. But I haven't seen most of them.

Ed: Thought Dark City was based on a comic (it would be high on my list if so), but apparently not. Might have been mixing it up with the inferior Sin City.

I'll have to check out Dark City, loved Sin City. I'm also a big Mickey Rourke fan and his performance was awesome.
 
I just see the white savior role as often being an intrinsic part of the fetishization of Asian women by white men. I know I’m not using it in the traditional sense, as in bringing culture and order to savages; but still as being their savior from asian men, and Asian society in general, which is just as disgusting and racist. And you can see how they apply it to all races.

Lots of those same posters harp on the homophobia, sexism and racism of Muslim/Asian/black/latin cultures and men meanwhile also admiring and typifying those traits themselves. It’s bizarre and gross.

Since you guys seem to be interested in film and race, I must suggest this book on, well, white saviors (among other things). Co-authored by that one professor I had that wrote that essay on Social Darwinism in the Lion King.

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Truly awesome book. It analyzes almost 100 years' worth of Hollywood productions where nonwhites and whites interact. There's an entire TWO chapters on the specific subject of white saviors.

@Kafir-kun
 
One good thing about working from home.

Having a High West Valley Tan on the rocks with a smoked flank steak on basmati rice can be had every day

Nice.
 
Since you guys seem to be interested in film and race, I must suggest this book on, well, white saviors (among other things). Co-authored by that one professor I had that wrote that essay on Social Darwinism in the Lion King.

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Truly awesome book. It analyzes almost 100 years' worth of Hollywood productions where nonwhites and whites interact. There's an entire TWO chapters on the specific subject of white saviors.

@Kafir-kun

Do you think I would like it?
 
I've known a few asian women (korean, chinese, and indian mostly) who have issues with men of their culture. I wonder to what extent that is related to external views of asian men.
That's not hard to believe at all but that's from the women's perspective whereas I am talking about the perspective of white men who fetishize Asian women.
Maybe but I think if so that it’s a fallacy. I guess that may be the case in Japan or South Korea, but even in those countries there is still misogyny more in line with most of the developing world more so than in Western Europe or USA/Canada.
Oh I agree but note that in the case of East Asian women the traditional culture is seen as a plus, not a downside. Whereas Muslim women are seen as needing to be saved from their own culture which is deemed deficient, the traditional culture of South Korea and Japan is seen as superior to Western norms around gender where some nerdy right wing white guys, the ones who tend to fetishize Asian women, feel that women's lib has gone too far and turned Western women into whores and subpar homemakers. Eastern European women are seen in a similar light by these types with the more white nationalists types preferring Eastern Euro women and the more weaboo types preferring East Asian women.
 
If it isn’t related to the external views, I would bet it often has more to do with their being misogynistic than effeminate. Do you mean women born in those countries?
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IIRC, for an indian one it was a little bit of both. ie, the effeminate traits came from being "spoiled" - which came from a misogynystic society that indulged entitlement.
 
great. I was replacing a screen for a Macbook Air & accidentally melted the reflector shield behind the lcd

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I've known a few asian women (korean, chinese, and indian mostly) who have issues with men of their culture. I wonder to what extent that is related to external views of asian men.

I've heard women of ALL backgrounds talk about issues with the men of their culture. Asian men are too traditional and stifling, Latinos too macho and often abusive, black men too irresponsible, etc., etc., especially when it comes from the home. "I grew up with an Asian/Latino/black dad and they are too..."

Know what group never extends their daddy issues to their entire racial/ethnic group? White women. I've never once heard a white woman say, "Having grown up with a white dad, I think they're too _________, so I stay away from them..."

It really is a testament to race relations and internalization of attitudes in society.
 
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