Social War Room Lounge Thread #325: PotWR Edition

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Mr Holmes said:
I recently tried your fancy pants AI to solve a legitimately tough problem (I was attempting to code a mixin that overrode my ORM's get() calls to use as a replacement for it's native caching functionality). We went thru about 20 prompts before it told me what I was trying to do wouldn't be technically feasible. Both Gemini and ChatGPT told me this. About an hour later I was able figure out a way to get it to work (I needed to check the rehydration call on my subclassed get() and defer it to the parent for that scenario). The reason why AI couldn't solve this is because it doesn't build, run and analyze outputs. All it really knows is whats already out there available on the web. Which makes it a junior to mid level employee at best.
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Claude is better today. I also didn’t say that we have AGI now. AGI is coming. This is like saying that the first iteration of something determines what that thing will be in the future.
 
Rob Battisti said:
Artificial Intelligence is a new intelligence.

What is wrong with that?

Nothing that you quoted is incorrect.
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Ah yes, the AI "superintelligence" that will do literally anything better than a human. A very serious not-dork wrote that.
 
Also @Mr Holmes if it’s junior to mid level now, what will it be in the future? Still junior to mid level? Why ever hire junior people again?
 
Mr Holmes said:
The reason why AI couldn't solve this is because it doesn't build, run and analyze outputs.
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And that will stay the same forever and ever?

To compare, you're basically on the "Netscape" version of AI. It will evolve...rapidly, as will our dependence on it. You ain't seen nothing yet.
 
Mr Holmes said:
The reason why AI couldn't solve this is because it doesn't build, run and analyze outputs. All it really knows is whats already out there available on the web. Which makes it a junior to mid level employee at best.
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These guys have a hard time grasping, among other things, that it turns out the internet doesn't actually contain the enormity of human accomplishment (let alone capability)
 
AI has caused the price of RAM to go full retard. The 16x2 6000 CL30 I bought for $130 back in January is now over $430.
And it's only gonna get worse with Micron leaving the consumer market.
 
HereticBD said:
It is.
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Don't worry my friend
If ol Rob is right, it's only a matter of time until we create AI super bots capable of imitating human affection. And when that day comes, your parents can finally build themselves a child that isn't a shambling, sweating reminder of their common shame.
 
Limbo Pete said:
These guys have a hard time grasping, among other things, that it turns out the internet doesn't actually contain the enormity of human accomplishment (let alone capability)
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What in the world does this have to do with anything?

It’s coming. When AGI comes there won’t be a thing that people do that it won’t be better and cheaper than. 5-10 years after that we’ll have humanoid robots — then what work will there be left to do?
 
Rob Battisti said:
Also @Mr Holmes if it’s junior to mid level now, what will it be in the future? Still junior to mid level? Why ever hire junior people again?
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You still need people to feed it all the different scenarios, analyze the results, apply it appropriately, test it, adjust when it gets things wrong, re-apply, etc. Even knowing what to ask it requires you to have the appropriate background.

HereticBD said:
And that will stay the same forever and ever?

To compare, you're basically on the "Netscape" version of AI. It will evolve...rapidly, as will our dependence on it. You ain't seen nothing yet.
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I guess we'll see. My estimate is I'll be long retired before we get there.
 
Rob Battisti said:
What in the world does this have to do with anything?

It’s coming. When AGI comes there won’t be a thing that people do that it won’t be better and cheaper than. 5-10 years after that we’ll have humanoid robots — then what work will there be left to do?
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There's that word better again lol
 
Mr Holmes said:
You still need people to feed it all the different scenarios, analyze the results, apply it appropriately, test it, adjust when it gets things wrong, re-apply, etc. Even knowing what to ask it requires you to have the appropriate background.


I guess we'll see. My estimate is I'll be long retired before we get there.
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Today.
 
Rob Battisti said:
Today.
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Uh.. We just over this. Its not suitable for complex problems. For the easy stuff it takes me longer to ask it all the things I need than it does for me to just code it myself. The only time it really was useful was when they decided to dump a bunch of mobile app work on me and I didn't have any experience working with Native Script.
 
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