War Machine official police report....

[Source]

This. I don't get the point of the timeline discussion at all.

It's a common tactic. It is often used to discredit victims of violent crimes. By casting doubt on small parts of the victim's story they feel they can cast doubt on the rest of the events. This frees them to then insert their own fictitious chain of events that further denigrates the victim.

If you doubt me look at the poster(s) putting up the most resistance. Then go read their posts where they make wild speculations as to what they believe happened while crying for you to wait to cast judgement.

In actuality it's unreasonable to believe a victim of these events has any real grasp on the time line of events. The detractors know this and attempt to use it to their advantage. It is an extremely sickening tool used by the scum of the earth.

 

[Richard Fannin]

I'd be curious if her neighbor that found her said that she was wet.

I'm not sure they had time for that, dude...

And to all the lawf*gs in there, a question about self-defense: It's 2 AM and some guy breaks into my house, threatens to kills me, I tell him to leave but he doesn't and starts walking toward me... can I use a knife on him or will it backfire in court when burglar plays victim?
Thanks

 

[Oblivian]

Given that one of the "statements" you guys are questioning is actually the statement of the police that interviewed both witnesses and investigated the scene i think it makes you idiots.

But according to you, the statement and police report are not different. Remember this:

jesus guys can you please list the things you think are different specifically .. because if you actually read the two statements they are not different

 

[Oblivian]

and?

they aren't different.. so when you claim to be questioning the "whore" "lying ****" "cumdumpster""clearly no angel" CM you are also questioning the police.. who interviewed her.. probably multiple times, interviewed corey, looked at the scene, interviewed the neighbour.. then produced a report with paraphrased excerpts from the recorded interviews that matches what she claims exactly.. there are omissions but no contradicts


so when you disagree with her you are also disagree with the investigators.. that makes you a desperate idiot with a clear agenda




waiting for the whiteknight, you just wanna seks mack response..

Lol - didn't you just question the 10 minute thing and say that seems completely unreasonable? "So when you disagree with her you are also disagreeing with the investigators......"

 

[Halifax]

You are wrong.

assault can mean it wasn't used and just threatened OR that it was used.

We are not discussing whether the prosecutor will go for this or that.. these guys are claiming

"he pushed a knife into my head"

and

paraphrasing "the victim states he held knife to my head"

are different

they are not materially different in evaluating whether she is making shit up

If the knife left marks on her body as she said on twitter, or was used to chop off her hair, it would certainly have been noted in the police report. Without doubt.

 

[Raider24]

If the knife left marks on her body as she said on twitter, or was used to chop off her hair, it would certainly have been noted in the police report. Without doubt.

Nah, they just leave out details like that occasionally because it's all just "paraphrased" according to him.

 

[pridewwe]

Lol - you must have attended school with Teddie. I'm pretty sure most that questioned if her statement was 100% accurate have also stated they think War Machine is full of shit as well. Who are we to question the statements of the scholar with a "Property of War Machine" tattoo who also openly admits the details of the incident are foggy to her?

Right Oblivion, they both have severe personality disorders, are immoral, and have immense character flaws. Given that, have you seen his slurpee or 24 hour fitness videos, he erupts and fantasies about

 

[Oblivian]

nope.. i didn't

Lol ok...

How does it take an hour to throw a girl into a shower and punch her a bunch of times.. are they sloths.. that could be done in 5 minutes.

Should I pull up all of your quotes on how quickly an MMA fighter can beat someone's ass in under 5 minutes?

 

[Oblivian]

Its paraphrased according to the police.. i know that because in the report it says

"this is paraphrased from a recorded interview"

Is that why the reports might be different?

Spoiler

 

[Raider24]

Right Oblivion, they both have severe personality disorders, are immoral, and have immense character flaws. Given that, have you seen his slurpee or 24 hour fitness videos, he erupts and fantasies about

 

[speakhandsforme]

The only real difference between her original account online and her police report were, while unimportant to the case, very detrimental to her character:

A. She was dating Kopenhaver and was in a relationship with him--- she hadn't dumped him

B. She was in bed with another man-- she was cheating


This doesn't affect Koppenhaver's guilt, but it doesn't encroach on her saintly depiction.

 

[pridewwe]

You have only heard 1 side of the story up to this point. It all depends on what type of evidence (if any) the defense has to poke holes in her story. Again, nobody is saying he isn't guilty of some of, if not all of the crimes. However, some of us prefer to hear ALL the evidence before making a judgement. You wanting people to make a judgement now is ridiculous.

Given the statements she provided in the 1st and 2nd interview and how they are written, it appears she has major inconsistencies in her story that a good lawyer would have a field day with which in turn could reduce or absolve him of certain crimes he has been charged with. You can never EVER hear one side of a story and make a judgement without considering ALL the evidence no matter how much evidence is stacked against one side of the case. Many of cases have began appearing as if it was open and shut, then 1 piece of evidence turns the entire case upside down. That is why our courts are setup the way they are. To give EVERYONE no matter what they are charged with, the opportunity to defend themselves and the right to a trial.

Just having access to what you have and heard right now, what would you decide?

As of right now, you implied yourself, the defense has no evidence, at least no known evidence made public to us

 

[BruceLeeOnTRT]

Christy Mack is never going to have sex with you I'm sorry.

White knighting is doing nothing but embarrassing you in front of all your peers.

Lol.

Was a busy day at work and I didnt get to catch up on this thread, but this is funny shit. Teddie just relax man, you went from 1-2 people working you to like 10, and some of us don't even get along half the time.

 

[speakhandsforme]

A She has never claimed she dumped Kopenhaver at anytime
B no one knows the status of either relationship.

Yes, she made multiple public statements following the attack she had not been involved with him for months, having dumped him in May. That's the assumption most persons following the story had been under this whole time.

Also, read the damn police report which we are discussing. She identifies Koppenhaver as her current "boyfriend" and the other dude as her "friend" (with whom she had previously, but not currently, engaged in sexual intercourse with) in her testimony.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

damn, chill out guys.

 

[Corleone187]

A She has never claimed she dumped Kopenhaver at anytime
B no one knows the status of either relationship.

not one person has claimed she's saintly .. because it doesn't really matter.. she isn't accused of doing anything wrong.. she appears to be the victim of a crime and all available statements and evidence supports that.

She lied with intent to mislead. It appears she intended to make people "think" she dumped that War guy so she could look angelic

If you come home from the strip joint and your wife asks you where you were, is it ok to say you were at Church because you really "were" at Church 3 days ago?
Obviously your wife isn't asking you that, she means most recent event and it's implied and you know that.

If someone asks CM what's her relation with WM, replying to that question by saying that they broke up in May is a lie cause it's intentionally meant to mislead.

 

[Luminaire]

The only real difference between her original account online and her police report were, while unimportant to the case, very detrimental to her character:

A. She was dating Kopenhaver and was in a relationship with him--- she hadn't dumped him

B. She was in bed with another man-- she was cheating


This doesn't affect Koppenhaver's guilt, but it doesn't encroach on her saintly depiction.

Haha... Who, who has once depicted Christy Mack as "Saintly"?

She's a 23 year old porn star... and a particularly raunchy one at that. One of the clearest indicators to me of her poor character is that she'd ever be involved with an unstable maniac like War Machine for 15 months.

But correct, it really is unimportant to the case in general. Whether HE broke up with HER as she stated in May or not... you can't beat the shit out of someone for cheating on you. No matter how "Alpha" you want to be.

Per the police report, Mack stated that her and Jon were in a "On-again, Off-again" dating relationship... which is incredibly common. It's basically a failing relationship and the two parties continue to maintain a sexual relationship while also keeping other options open. And that's exactly what was happening.

Plus she's a god damn porn star... if you're going to date a porn star you should just get used to thinking of yourself as a swinger. Or I suppose you could get ultra jealous and beat the shit out of the guy and your porn star girlfriend and then hide from the authorities until you get aggressive with a woman outside a scuzzy motel in the valley and end up getting caught... maybe that's the way to go.

 

[Luminaire]

I've kept up with most of this thread. I will say with the exception of the "10 minute / 5 minute" thing Teddie has been far more accurate when citing details of the case.

Some of you guys are just consistently talking out of your ass...

 

[Corleone187]

She intended to make people think she dumped him by saying

"after he dumped me he moved out"

you are so full of shit all of you, you can not read its pathetic.

It doesn't matter who dumped who. Her intent speaking in the past when the present trumps it is intended to mislead. She wants to distance herself as far away as possible to make herself look better.

It's grandstanding!

 

[Raider24]

I've kept up with most of this thread. I will say with the exception of the "10 minute / 5 minute" thing Teddie has been far more accurate when citing details of the case.

Some of you guys are just consistently talking out of your ass...