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Television WANDAVISION Discussion (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen the whole season of WANDAVISION, how would you rate it?

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Meh whole series felt like fluff to build Wanda’s story up. Where is Phase 4 heading? I really hope we aren’t getting just standalone stories from here on out.
 
Bettany and Olsen together on screen just do it for me, man. Saved this episode and series, imo.

I like Olsen as the Red Witch, but don't understand the love for Hahn as the Exposition Witch(tm). Terrible over the top acting and weak script for that character.

Rambeaux was sidelined too much for the last few episodes - had almost nothing to do except for disappointing all our hopes re: Pietro.

Finally, they "kind of forgot" to create any personality or motivation for Hayward apart from "so he's evil".

The final scenes were moving, but overall the series fell a bit flat, possibly because of the heavy hype beforehand. I just feel like there should have been more - last episode could really have used a surprise of some kind.
 
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The finale was as generic and predictable as anything Marvel has produced. Of course the villains are as one dimensional as it appeared on the surface.

Even with another medium that gives more freedom to tell their stories without the 2 hour limitation of films, they still can’t produce one genuinely unexpected moment. Everything is safe and overly calculated.

Great performances surrounded by a CW-like production and writing.

Considering how much unnecessary silliness there was on the show, everything including the out-of-town characters was terrible, the agents, Darcy, Rambeau who turned out to be nothing more than a set-up, the uselessness of Pietro, etc, this should have been a 2 hour film. It would have been a lot more tighter and a lot less frustrating.
 
This show is/was like crack. Short highs and leaves you wanting for more. I wish they had put more content into it and left you feeling a bit more satisfied. The ending was disappoiting and basically cut short, now we have to wait for probabily year(s) to see wheres french Rambo going. I dont like it, feels like theyre (greedly) messing/exploiting the viewers with endless cliffhangers, instead of giving us great content like HBO, they give us little cubes of sugar for short highs.
 
Loiosh said:
And the times she goes badass are fucking epic. The most epic. She isn't trying to be badass, she just is. They made Captain Marvel an annoying smartass. Wanda is the primeval essence of vengeance.

Wanda: You took everything from me.
Thanos: I don't even know who you are.
Wanda: You will.

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Ultron: If you stay here, you'll die.
Wanda: I just did. Do you know how it felt?
[tears out Ultron's metal heart]
Wanda: It felt like that.

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I actually took the time to download the videos so I could capture these scenes in slow motion, that's how much I love them.

I love how Wanda is written, you can't help but empathize and she doesn't mess around when someone done her wrong.

The way Captain Marvel is written it's impossible to like her.
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Couldn’t have said it better.
I love the fact that all she wants is to have a normal life. A family, a house and a neighborhood, being that all she knew was losing her beloved ones. You can see the character motivations and tragic reason for her powers.

I also like the way their portrayed her as a Balkans type conflict survivor.

CPT Marvel? She is as boring as a board.

PS. On that scene with Thanos... I am sure he needed to change his space underwear by then.
 
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TTech said:
This show is/was like crack. Short highs and leaves you wanting for more. I wish they had put more content into it and left you feeling a bit more satisfied. The ending was disappoiting and basically cut short, now we have to wait for probabily year(s) to see wheres french Rambo going. I dont like it, feels like theyre (greedly) messing/exploiting the viewers with endless cliffhangers, instead of giving us great content like HBO, they give us little cubes of sugar for short highs.
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Marvel is like McDonald's. It smells good, it tastes good when you're hungry but once you're done with the meal, all you're left is bad cholesterol and irritated bowels.

I like Marvel, i've seen every film at least twice but there's nothing there. It's a corporate product tinkered to the tiniest detail to make as much money as possible.

Wandavision was a stretched out non-story, with two awful villains (one generic prick who shot at kids to hammer down he was BAD and a witch that wanted more POWER!), whose goal was to bring back Vision into the MCU, introduce Monica Rambeau and prep her for future appearances, and superpower Wanda for Doctor Strange 2.

Basically the Marvel formula:

Hero that has to overcome some obstacle + generic disposable villain that has world domination/tremendous power as his goal + setting up other films (and shows) = Marvel 101
 
Just watched the finale and my only complaint is that whomever cut the "Previously On" needs a kick in the nuts. Those who saw the episode will know what I mean.
 
Vergilius said:
One more thing:

Why MUST the hero in every Marvel movie fight a bad guy with similar powers?

We got a double dose in this episode: two witches, two robots. Couldn't they at least have switched opponents?
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As I pointed out in my previous post, a strong, memorable Big Bad has always been Marvel's fatal flaw. Thanos was the exception that proved the rule. Hela was great but, as you pointed out, it was just one Asgardian fighting another.

The MCU also has a bad habit of making even the better Villains one and done. Red Skull had one film in his prime, then disappeared for seven years. And in his next appearance, he's little more than a ghost. Hela was fun, but there's no indication she'll return from being destroyed along with Asgard. Ego's dead, the Mandarin turned out to be a Troll job on the level with Bettany's, "surprise cameo" and the less said about Malaketh, the better.
 
I was hoping to see what happens to white vision in the post credits, but I wonder if we will see him in future MCU movies. Also, Scarlet Witch is already so very strong, her studying at the post credit scene makes me reminds me of Dr. Strange.
 
I enjoyed this series. Started off slow, then the revealing of everything was great, and the finale was very MCU, which is decent.
 
Dragonlordxxxxx said:
For the season finale, I'm setting my expectations low and just dismissed all outlandish but fantastical theories on the outcome. I'm just going to expect that it's going to presented at face value - Agatha is the main villain, there is no bigger bad, Vision remains dead in the end, Wanda continues to be heartbroken. I'm not so sure on the Twins though.

But my wish is that Vision (the one Wanda created) somehow survives and will be the new MCU Vision going forward.
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<{jackyeah}>

The two post credit scenes basically play out how Phase 4 is gonna go.

So in the end we have the Scarlet Witch teeing up Doctor Strange since Agatha name drops him and she hears her boys crying out so here is how we'll get mutants. Blank Vision unaccounted for. And Monica with the Skrulls who I feel are gonna turn heel and have Secret Invasion become the next main MCU arc. Also bummer that Quicksilver wasn't, he's just some dumb ass Ralph.
 
Sickness1 said:
I'm Ralph Boener
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Is he friends with Tony Stank?

Loiosh said:
He creates a tiny power source that could power a city, but doesn't let anyone do that.
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The Oil lobbyists obviously paid him off.

TTech said:
This show is/was like crack. Short highs and leaves you wanting for more. I wish they had put more content into it and left you feeling a bit more satisfied. The ending was disappoiting and basically cut short, now we have to wait for probabily year(s) to see wheres french Rambo going. I dont like it, feels like theyre (greedly) messing/exploiting the viewers with endless cliffhangers, instead of giving us great content like HBO, they give us little cubes of sugar for short highs.
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I'm not sure you know how the drug trade is supposed to work.......Marvel is doing exactly what a drug dealer would. This thread is filled with people who don't even like the show still watching just so they can complain. Whether people like or hate the show, here we are talking about it, and wondering what's coming next waiting on that next hit.
 
Classic “theories were better than show” show. I’m glad I didn’t start watching from the first week. Sitwell did better in setting up the new Marvel landscape in a two minute rant than hours of tv.
 
KnightTemplar said:
- Agatha's boots sticking out the ruins of the house?

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- "You don't know what you've unleashed!" Basic Physics: Energy cannot be destroyed, only changed. It's possible Wanda tearing down the Hex caused the energy to spread across the US, if not the entire world. Given that it's already been established that the Hex can rewrite a person's DNA and give them Superpowers, I think Wanda just pulled a Reverse House of M. This might be how we get Mutants in the MCU.

The other possible interpretation of Agnes' line is that Wanda inadvertently damaged the entire Multiverse itself. That's even more likely, given that this series leads directly into Multiverse of Madness.

- Nice references to Blade Runner. The cinema showing, "Tannhauser Gate" is the obvious one. But the way KKK Vision tries to kill Wanda by crushing her skull also references how Roy Batty kills his creator, Sebastian.

- Wanda in full Scarlet Witch costume: Nerdgasam achieved:D

- Wanda's last(?)scene with Vision...damn. Straight in the Feels<DCrying>

- Their last words, about saying goodbye so many times they must at some point say hullo again is actually paraphrasing a traditional greeting between adherents of Wicca,

"Merry Meet, and Merry Part, and Merry Meet Again":cool:

- Mid-Credits Scene obviously setting up Secret Invasion.

- After Credits Scene does the same with Multiverse of Madness: Wanda is using the same Astral Projection technique to read the Dark Hold that Strange used when studying the forbidden books of magic at Kamar-Taj. Also, the voices of Wiccan and Speed pretty much confirm there will be a Young Avengers series at some point.

Overall, I rate this series an 8. The performances of Olson, Bettany and Hahn were flawless. They managed to hit pretty much every emotional state: joy, humour, rage, love, grief, fear. It's Olson's show, and she's the MVP, effortlessly switching from sweet and funny to cold-blooded, terrifying rage. Often in the same scene. Norm's line in the Finale,

"When you let us sleep, we dream your nightmares"

Is genuinely chilling. As is Dottie begging Wanda to give her daughter a role to play just so she can hold her again:eek: This is as about as dark as the MCU gets.

That said, while Hahn is absolutely superb, Agatha being the Big Bad was something of a disappointment for me. I knew we weren't getting Mephisto; China's weird cultural rules make him a non-starter. But even a brief cameo by Nightmare would have lent a real sense of menace that could have continued past the end of the show.

However, the worst fumble was Ralph Bohner(Giggity!). It wasn't explained how Agatha's husband got his Super-Speed. Was that a factor of the bead necklace, or did he have those powers before Agatha possessed him? Is he the MCU counterpart to the Fox-Verse Quicksilver? His appearance didn't change after Agatha's control over him was broken. Monica finding out his real name and releasing him from Agatha's, "crystaline possession" felt clumsy, as though they were running out of time and had to force it in there somehow(again, Giggity!;))

- Senor Scratchy? Fuck that Red Herring Rabbit:mad:

TLDR: Excellent writing and performances across the board let down by too many head-fakes with no pay off and a sub-par Big Bad. Marvel's fatal flaw yet again sees them drop the ball inches from the end zone. I loved this show, but I'm actually looking forward to a change of pace with Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
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The hex is still there. After all, it is what will keep Agatha in "character" now that Wanda left Westview. Wanda now knows how to control her magic.
 
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