WADA funded study confirms: ~ 40-60% of athletes are on PEDs but only 1-2% are caught

Rigorous testing?

Where was that happening?


Can you perhaps tell me who the UFC and Strikeforce champions in the U.S. were at the time?


Pretty sure the guys fighting under 'rigorous testing' looked like this:

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So maybe it has nothing to do with the 'Sherdog Fedor huggers' not being able to understand and more to do with the fact that you're just a complete moron.
I normally make it a rule not to respond to childish people that call names, because it is likely I am talking to a teenager; I'll give an explanation here though. What I was talking about was the UFC since they have been under USADA, which has busted both of the people you pictured once they were under "rigorous testing." In fact, they were both busted immediately when they came under more rigorous testing. Fedor never fought under such testing.

Now do you understand? Nice drama with the name calling and pictures, but the funny thing is, you illustrated my exact point.
 
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Thought it'd be 99%. Only undercard broke fighters wouldn't use.

I bet many still claim innocent just out of fear that they'd actually somehow get found out for marking the poll as guilty. I know I would just pretend to be clean regardless of whether I was polled anonymously.
 
Wada saying 40-60 Percent on peds? Lol

Making themselves look good I see
 
100% of pro athletes are on PEDs. 40-60% are on banned substances.
 
This test is a systematic and robust way to try to assess how many athletes are cheating beyond who gets caught by the test but it seems some posters here would rather rely on a # pulled their or others asses cuz there’s no way to validate those guesses. When the MLB released data on how many of their athletes popped for peds it was around 40% if I remember right. I’m surprised at the % from this study is around the same or even higher given the stricter testing and punishment for Olympic athletes but we never had anything to go on before aside from out the ass guesses.
Self-report is almost never a reliable way to test something, which when it comes down to it is how this was done. I'd be interested in reading more about the methods for this study though. I would find it hard to believe that so many high profile athletes in other sports (especially the UFC) get busted if it is that beatable. Many of them make in the mulitmillions also, the top guys anyway (Jones, Anderson, etc.). those track athletes are mostly not Lance Armstrong rich.
 
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He probably was, and that is one of the things Sherdog Fedor huggers can't seem to acknowledge- it is a huge question mark on his accomplishments. He never fought under rigorous testing when he was doing well, and started losing when he fought under ANY rules that required testing.

LOL this thread by the way, not only the OP, but so many of the responses. Time to take a college research course and understand it better before going off the deep end with false conclusions. This research is not terribly meaningful in terms of anything outside these 2 competitions in 2011.
there are no question marks. fighters use PEDs and that's it, so that should be a non factor. he's the greatest HW of all time and no one is even close
 
there are no question marks. fighters use PEDs and that's it, so that should be a non factor. he's the greatest HW of all time and no one is even close
Nice speculation, with a sweeping conclusion based on that speculation.
 
I normally make it a rule not to respond to childish people that call names, because it is likely I am talking to a teenager; I'll give an explanation here though. What I was talking about was the UFC since they have been under USADA, which has busted both of the people you pictured once they were under "rigorous testing." In fact, they were both busted immediately when they came under more rigorous testing. Fedor never fought under such testing.

Now do you understand? Nice drama with the name calling and pictures, but the funny thing is, you illustrated my exact point.

Actually, that's an idiotic response but nice try.

You claimed he started losing after he faced "any testing." Everyone knows that the testing was garbage back then and, in fact, it was Fedor who was asking for random testing for the Overeem fight - which, of course, Overeem declined for obvious reasons.



Trying to claim his career is somehow "tainted" because he didn't fight under rigorous testing that didn't even exist for any fighter in his era is actually pretty fucking retarded even for Sherdog

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Actually, that's an idiotic response but nice try.

You claimed he started losing after he faced "any testing." Everyone knows that the testing was garbage back then and, in fact, it was Fedor who was asking for random testing for the Overeem fight - which, of course, Overeem declined for obvious reasons.



Trying to claim his career is somehow "tainted" because he didn't fight under rigorous testing that didn't even exist for any fighter in his era is actually pretty fucking retarded even for Sherdog

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OK, know I'm not even going to respond until you can have a conversation like an adult. Perhaps you don't feel you can make a good logical point without calling names, but as you grow into an adult, it is something you can work on. You miss the actual point in a big way. But there is nothing I can do about it now, the adults in your life didn't do a very good job of teaching and role modeling obviously.
 
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40279-017-0765-4

For the full study, just google its title

Note: This study was done in 2011 and funded by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), but only now did they release the results, it is fair to assume that WADA didn't like the conclusions

Cliffs:
- Historically, only 1-2% of athletes test positive, this figure is consistent with the UFC's USADA program results
- Scientists asked athletes in two elite tested sporting events (Track and Field) whether or not they are on PEDs utilizing a "randomized response technique" which guarantees anonymity for individuals when answering a sensitive question

- Results:
in the first competition(WCA), the prevalence of past-year doping was 43.6% (95% confidence interval 39.4–47.9)
in the second competition(PAG), 57.1% (52.4–61.8)

Scientists agree that, due to the probabilistic nature of the study, they are likely UNDERESTIMATING the doping prevalence "Sensitivity analyses, assessing the robustness of these estimates under numerous hypothetical scenarios of intentional or unintentional noncompliance by respondents, suggested that we were unlikely to have overestimated the true prevalence of doping."

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Conclusion:

Doping appears remarkably widespread among elite athletes, and remains largely unchecked despite current biological testing. The survey technique presented here will allow future investigators to generate continued reference estimates of the prevalence of doping.

Just lol @ people who think top athletes are clean

If 40-60% admit it in an anon question situation, then you have to account for those who were to afraid to answer truthfully, there is most certainly more. Probably 60-80% instead of 40-60%.
 
I bet TS is a fan of someone who has been busted for PED’s
 
The NBA and NFL sweeps it under the rug if rumors come out on certain stars.

They also have lesser punishments. Its not uncommon for a guy in the NFL to get busted and then only get suspended for 4 games and be right back to playing. They don't usually do this shit where they ban an athlete for 2-4 years. If they brought in USADA there would be no NFL left.
 
I bet TS is a fan of someone who has been busted for PED’s

So are you, even if you don't know it. There is a long list of guys busted for PED's, a long list, and then there is all the guys that we pretty much know for a fact were on PED's but weren't tested like, everyone in PRIDE fighting.
 
So because they polled one of the dirtiest sports in the world, the conclusions apply everywhere else?

Use your head. If you are the best in the world at anything you are likely not clean. It absolutely applies to sports in general. All sports, hell, even video gamers are now taking PED's.
 
I imagine Fedor, like most other MMA fighters, took PEDs at some point.

Young Fedor had suspect traps.

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And by "at some point" you mean most of his career. Those Pride guys were practically encouraged to juice and he was the best one of them. No chance in fuck he was beating all the PED users asses while he himself was the only one clean.
 
So are you, even if you don't know it. There is a long list of guys busted for PED's, a long list, and then there is all the guys that we pretty much know for a fact were on PED's but weren't tested like, everyone in PRIDE fighting.

The difference is, I’m not assuming everyone is on PED’s just because my favourite fighters are confirmed cheats.

Without evidence it’s unfair to be going around accusing. If you think everyone is on PED’s good for you I guess.
 
Use your head. If you are the best in the world at anything you are likely not clean. It absolutely applies to sports in general. All sports, hell, even video gamers are now taking PED's.
The irony of you telling me to use my head, over a poll, being illogically applied beyond the scope of its own parameters <Lmaoo>.
 
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