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I still think he would be the favorite if he were to fight Pavlovich. I think he would pick him apart and knock him out within three rounds.
 
So Tuivasa "Might" beat Volkov but Volkov would beat Pav? If Tai beats Volkov it will be a KO from making it a sloppy slugfest. But Pav who has better technique and way more power won't be able to beat Volkov? WTF is happening here? Its Wednesday so you aren't even doing a "Hot Take Tuesday" troll here.
 
Pavlovich is the absolute worst matchup for Volkov, tailor made to beat him (like Ngannou was).

Volkov has horrible defense against punches, outside being tall, and Pavlovich has the longer reach.
 
Tai doesn't sound great in the countdown video, very slow talking. I didn't think he was that bad before
 
I'm not on the Pavlovich train; I believe his grappling will get exposed soon enough (or maybe not, since there are only a couple competent gapplers at HW). But he would blast through Volkov quite easily.
 
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Sometimes I come on the site and think...maybe I can read a good take.
I felt that way today...but...this thread happened lol.
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I don’t think he’s going to lose. I like Tai but he is not an elite fighter, imo. He has a decent chin, and can punch hard.

That can get you a lot of wins. But generally will not make you a UFC champion.

Volkov by decision.
 
dipstickjimmy said:
So Tuivasa "Might" beat Volkov but Volkov would beat Pav? If Tai beats Volkov it will be a KO from making it a sloppy slugfest. But Pav who has better technique and way more power won't be able to beat Volkov? WTF is happening here? Its Wednesday so you aren't even doing a "Hot Take Tuesday" troll here.
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WTF is happening is I am not doing MMA math like you. Styles make fights and analyzing each potential match ups don't make me a troll.

Tuivasa is the quicker and more slick striker when he can manage distance and I am saying this even after seeing him lose to Pavlovich. Pavlovich packs power and has a long reach but he is quite stiff and has to rely on his opponents to brawl with him. Volkov is not that kind of a fighter. He is a cautious striker and I can absolutely see him picking Pavlovich apart with his right hand. In terms of power, I wouldn't be surprised if Volkov can hold his own.
 
TempleoftheDog said:
I don’t think he’s going to lose. I like Tai but he is not an elite fighter, imo. He has a decent chin, and can punch hard.

That can get you a lot of wins. But generally will not make you a UFC champion.

Volkov by decision.
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it's his shitty fight IQ that kills any chance he has of becoming a UFC champion. he can only fight one way and it is to brawl. and even when he brawls he has no nuance to his game, it's just as dangerous for him as it is for the other guy. if he had some kind of tricks or tactic that would put the brawls into his favor that would be one thing but he doesn't. he's basically a barroom brawler.

it's sad because in some ways he's regressed. he has some pretty decent low kicks but he just never throws them anymore.
 
LoveSherdogThisTime said:
WTF is happening is I am not doing MMA math like you. Styles make fights and analyzing each potential match ups don't make me a troll.

Tuivasa is the quicker and more slick striker when he can manage distance and I am saying this even after seeing him lose to Pavlovich. Pavlovich packs power and has a long reach but he is quite stiff and has to rely on his opponents to brawl with him. Volkov is not that kind of a fighter. He is a cautious striker and I can absolutely see him picking Pavlovich apart with his right hand. In terms of power, I wouldn't be surprised if Volkov can hold his own.
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i don't know why everyone is giving you a hard time. a couple of months ago none of these guys thought DDP would beat Whittaker either.
 
LoveSherdogThisTime said:
WTF is happening is I am not doing MMA math like you. Styles make fights and analyzing each potential match ups don't make me a troll.

Tuivasa is the quicker and more slick striker when he can manage distance and I am saying this even after seeing him lose to Pavlovich. Pavlovich packs power and has a long reach but he is quite stiff and has to rely on his opponents to brawl with him. Volkov is not that kind of a fighter. He is a cautious striker and I can absolutely see him picking Pavlovich apart with his right hand. In terms of power, I wouldn't be surprised if Volkov can hold his own.
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Tai can only win if it is a brawl. I just don't see how Tai can win and Pav can't. I guess you seem to feel Tai is quick and slick but I do not. Not saying Pav can or can't beat Volkov but I am saying 100% IF Tai can beat him then Pav ABSOLUTELY can beat him. Tai also has to land more to get the KO and Pav only needs one.
 
dipstickjimmy said:
Tai can only win if it is a brawl. I just don't see how Tai can win and Pav can't. I guess you seem to feel Tai is quick and slick but I do not. Not saying Pav can or can't beat Volkov but I am saying 100% IF Tai can beat him then Pav ABSOLUTELY can beat him. Tai also has to land more to get the KO and Pav only needs one.
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That's called MMA math. I can just as much make the case for Volkov using Overeem.

In my opinion, Lewis and Tuivasa are both bigger threats in the pocket than Pavlovich even though they lost against him. I think people are overestimating Pavlovich. I am not sure if you remember this but Blaydes actually hit him with a lot of decent shots and showed that he was the more polished striker (but with less power). Pavlovich's flaws will become even more evident against Volkov because I have no doubt in my mind that Volkov can make the pace of the fight slower and also not brawl with him. Also, Pav is not Ngannou.
 
LoveSherdogThisTime said:
That's called MMA math. I can just as much make the case for Volkov using Overeem.

In my opinion, Lewis and Tuivasa are both bigger threats in the pocket than Pavlovich even though they lost against him. I think people are overestimating Pavlovich. I am not sure if you remember this but Blaydes actually hit him with a lot of decent shots and showed that he was the more polished striker (but with less power). Pavlovich's flaws will become even more evident against Volkov because I have no doubt in my mind that Volkov can make the pace of the fight slower and also not brawl with him. Also, Pav is not Ngannou.
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I think we have a different understanding of MMAth. To me it is when someone says Fighter A beat fighter B and B beat C so A beats C.
Example: Jens Pulver beat Denis Hallman who beat Matt Hughes twice therefore Jens Pulver would beat Matt Hughes. Anyone with a brain would know that is dumb.

I am not using MMAth whatsoever. I see Tai as a sloppy brawler with good power and I see Pav as a much more technical (relative to Tai) brawler and much more powerful. My analysis is a direct comparison of Tai and Pav not an MMAth equation. Pav is a much bigger threat IMO in the areas where Tai is a threat.

Imagine if I said I see Pav's skills 100% resulting in him KOing Volkov but I don't think Francis would be able to do it. That sounds kind of dumb with Frank being similar to Pav but having even greater KO power.

You can have a different opinion of Tai and Pav then I do but I think you are way off.
 
Volkov is massively overrated and he'd get finished by Pavlovich. Volkov is a gatekeeper.
 
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