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Virtue Signaling in Gaming Megathread, v.2

That's an interesting spin reversing the blame for negativity, and projecting it onto me. I'm not the source.
Considering the frequent angry and aggressive outbursts from dizzy on this thread, it shows they don’t care about who is supposedly showing emotion, just which side of the debate they are on. As always. It’s never about the message or the action, just the bias.
 
It is worthless debating with you.

You will lie and then tell everyone you were always correct.

You repeatedly demand multiple specific sources for other people’s views but seldom/never provide them yourself.

You are a zealot and a butter frankly.
Yawn
 


Of course you don't like it.

Your underhand game has been exposed repeatedly

Everyone can see you for what you are.

You are so married to you far left political ideologies you will debate completely dishonestly to defend it to the death where no reasonable or honest defence exists.

You have completely exposed yourself. Repeatedly
 
Of course you don't like it.

Your underhand game has been exposed repeatedly

Everyone can see you for what you are.

You are so married to you far left political ideologies you will debate completely dishonestly to defend it to the death where no reasonable or honest defence exists.

You have completely exposed yourself. Repeatedly
Yawn
 
You done?
I really dislike people who try and demonise regular people for holding reasonable views.

Forcing woke identity politics into games and other forms of entertainment has destroyed a lot of great IPs people enjoy.

No amount of bullying and trying to control the narrative by far left zealots will change that.

The worm has turned. The far left can no longer force people to agree their extreme views are the only correct one.

Far left political identity politics nonsense has destroyed a lot of great entertainment and the likes of yourself and Deviante on the other woke thread will not get to look down from your false pedestal of superiority on people who hold this perfectly reasonable view.

Like the mod told you in the other post, the preemptive attacks on fans as phobes and ists will no longer work.

Stop coming in here with your false claims and your two tier system of debate and you won’t be challenged on it.

The people have spoke. The money speaks. This crap is being rejected en masse. Some of you need to accept that and stop attacking the larger public for holding these reasonable views.
 
I really dislike people who try and demonise regular people for holding reasonable views.

Forcing woke identity politics into games and other forms of entertainment has destroyed a lot of great IPs people enjoy.

No amount of bullying and trying to control the narrative by far left zealots will change that.

The worm has turned. The far left can no longer force people to agree their extreme views are the only correct one.

Far left political identity politics nonsense has destroyed a lot of great entertainment and the likes of yourself and Deviante on the other woke thread will not get to look down on your false pedestal of superiority on people who hold this perfectly reasonable view.

Like the mid told you in the other post, the preemptive attacks on fans as phobes and ists will no longer work.

Stop coming in here with your false claims and your two tier system of debate and you won’t be challenged on it.

The people have spoke. The money speaks. This crop is being rejected en masse. Some of you need to accept that and stop attacking the larger public for holding these reasonable views.
Yawn
 
Exposed.

Your lies in the Musk thing (no fan of his but your lie was clear and egregious). Has fully exposed you as a far left zealot.

No more needs to be said. You’ve shown yourself up.

Have a nice day.
Okay but the reason I didn’t read that is because you cut out the part where I said I was wrong about that one lol. Oh well let’s not argue anymore. Kind of tired of it
 
Yeah? That's what enterprise subscriptions cost...

I don't begrudge someone for not knowing what large organizations pay for services like that but it is bizarre that people who've never worked B2B selling IT/analysis/data are so insistent that those prices are unusual.

But hey there's an entire thread for people like that in the war room.

It honestly sounds like this usaid funding gaming publications thing is BS since you still haven't even provided a name or any shred of reporting on it. Unless you're literally arguing Politico is that, which would be odd.
I don't know where they are getting this from either. I asked the same but no response.
 
Okay but the reason I didn’t read that is because you cut out the part where I said I was wrong about that one lol. Oh well let’s not argue anymore. Kind of tired of it
Sneaky stealth edit. I didn't cut anything.

I didnt quote every post you made in the thread. I'm not obliged to


You really are such a deceitful person.
 
Sneaky stealth edit. I didn't cut anything.

I didnt quote every post you made in the thread. I'm not obliged to


You really are such a deceitful person.
Your entire rant was useless because you intentionally left out the part where I acknowledged I was wrong in conflating salary with net worth. The source I used Forbes didn’t mention that her net worth grew that much. It doesn’t change my original point though which is a lot of this stuff gets proven wrong over time like the condom story, the 8 million in funding, the shrimp story, etc. People lose sight of the big things happening for this reason. It was a plan outlined by Steve Bannon in the past. You flood the media with news stories so that the real damage goes unnoticed like taking away the CFPB which helped Americans recover 20 billion dollars lost from fraud. Anyway I’m done with this topic. We’re getting so far away from what this thread was created for and I’m pretty sure a mod is going to wipe this out soon so probably just a waste of time to continue further.
 
Idk who they are, but I do know that there will be things taken out of context and will just go away. The problem is so far, we have confirmed what was conspiracy theory before, about funding projects in foreign nations that aligns with the Democratic parties agenda. Destabilizing cultures with "freedom" like pride parades and stupid shit like that. The CIA already got busted in Pakistan in 2011 with that vaccine front where they claimed to be helping the locals but were just collecting bio-metrics on the populace. Their primary reason for starting it was told as a front to find Bin Ladin. It went way further. This shit is no different. You can see it in the documentation, obfuscation/misdirection with terminology.

It's just a coincidence these things were being used and perpetuated by American companies though. Total coincidence I'm sure. Even with legitimate and independent funding... lol

I have no doubts that the Republican party has gone with or assisted with this shit. I also have no doubts that Musk would do something to benefit himself in the process. I've said that guy is a conman for 10 years at this point.
I’m not entirely sure where you’re going with this. This post seems kind of scattershot to me. I don’t think you will find too many people, left or right, defending the CIA outside of the warhawks. What the CIA does is way more serious than anything that happens in the gaming industry.

You could tell me the government under Biden funded some gay shit in a game and I would believe you. I just don’t think it would matter. Doing that is not the same as like Communist China suppressing everything they don’t like. Plus, if the government did do that the game undoubtedly sucked and flopped. I might be concerned about the money they wasted, but I don’t fear the cultural impact of it at all.
 
I’m not entirely sure where you’re going with this. This post seems kind of scattershot to me. I don’t think you will find too many people, left or right, defending the CIA outside of the warhawks. What the CIA does is way more serious than anything that happens in the gaming industry.

You could tell me the government under Biden funded some gay shit in a game and I would believe you. I just don’t think it would matter. Doing that is not the same as like Communist China suppressing everything they don’t like. Plus, if the government did do that the game undoubtedly sucked and flopped. I might be concerned about the money they wasted, but I don’t fear the cultural impact of it at all.
The CIA and USAID are directly linked, how is that scattershot? If they want to spread propaganda or disinfo they'll use the resources to get articles written. It's influencing culture through established structures.

Just because you don't think it matters doesn't mean they don't do it because it works. There are multiple steps in psyops and we've even seen it in the USA. It is literally the same as Communist China, that's why they do it.You don't need to influence a majority of people, you just need to get the seed planted for a first generation, then when they move up in the world they spread their influence to the next. It's a multi generational strategy.

The Soviets did it, we did it, and the Chinese are doing it too. This stuff is about degrading the social fabric of countries. It is 100% working. It isn't "progress."
 
The CIA and USAID are directly linked, how is that scattershot? If they want to spread propaganda or disinfo they'll use the resources to get articles written. It's influencing culture through established structures.

Just because you don't think it matters doesn't mean they don't do it because it works. There are multiple steps in psyops and we've even seen it in the USA. It is literally the same as Communist China, that's why they do it.You don't need to influence a majority of people, you just need to get the seed planted for a first generation, then when they move up in the world they spread their influence to the next. It's a multi generational strategy.
It literally is not the same as in communist China. In China you get censored. In China you can get arrested or disappeared if you try to make media counter to the message. It’s a much different thing than funding something. You might not like it that the government funds a message, but it’s not a new thing. It’s not particularly insidious. What do you think the DARE campaign of the 80s was if not the government trying to affect our culture?
 
It literally is not the same as in communist China. In China you get censored. In China you can get arrested or disappeared if you try to make media counter to the message. It’s a much different thing than funding something. You might not like it that the government funds a message, but it’s not a new thing. It’s not particularly insidious. What do you think the DARE campaign of the 80s was if not the government trying to affect our culture?

If you want to compare them to China you red something better than they funded a dei game.
China funds and operates within our own country my dude. Why do you think the CIA spent millions of dollars through established networks to influence narratives? Just because you can't go directly to jail for posting something doesnt mean they're not working towards certain narratives. It is 100% insidious and its disingenuous to claim otherwise. The CIA is not looking for the betterment of the American people, theyre interested in the betterment of the CIA. This has been proven repeatedly. I can't even begin to understand how you think otherwise.

To equate not using drugs to promoting gender bender shit to kids is unhinged. Full stop. You shouldn't use drugs and you shouldn't be trying to divide people, let alone children, through means of entertainment. Having something explore ideas is not the same as purposely promoting a negative message.
 
China funds and operates within our own country my dude. Why do you think the CIA spent millions of dollars through established networks to influence narratives? Just because you can't go directly to jail for posting something doesnt mean they're not working towards certain narratives. It is 100% insidious and its disingenuous to claim otherwise. The CIA is not looking for the betterment of the American people, theyre interested in the betterment of the CIA. This has been proven repeatedly. I can't even begin to understand how you think otherwise.

To equate not using drugs to promoting gender bender shit to kids is unhinged. Full stop. You shouldn't use drugs and you shouldn't be trying to divide people, let alone children, through means of entertainment. Having something explore ideas is not the same as purposely promoting a negative message.
You’re off the rails. I suggest taking a deep breath and rereading. I think I’ve been pretty clear on why it’s different from living in China. The irony of calling me unhinged though.

The point I’m making isn’t that “dare bad”. The point I was making is that the governments always done this. You actually quite brilliantly proved my point with your overreaction to: the method doesn’t bother you, just the message.
 
I’m not entirely sure where you’re going with this. This post seems kind of scattershot to me. I don’t think you will find too many people, left or right, defending the CIA outside of the warhawks. What the CIA does is way more serious than anything that happens in the gaming industry.

You could tell me the government under Biden funded some gay shit in a game and I would believe you. I just don’t think it would matter. Doing that is not the same as like Communist China suppressing everything they don’t like. Plus, if the government did do that the game undoubtedly sucked and flopped. I might be concerned about the money they wasted, but I don’t fear the cultural impact of it at all.
Apparently the CIA has nothing better to do than try and make gamers gay by funding propaganda. They've run out foreign regimes to overthrow I guess.
 
You’re off the rails. I suggest taking a deep breath and rereading. I think I’ve been pretty clear on why it’s different from living in China. The irony of calling me unhinged though.

The point I’m making isn’t that “dare bad”. The point I was making is that the governments always done this. You actually quite brilliantly proved my point with your overreaction to: the method doesn’t bother you, just the message.
You are overly concerned with the CCP arresting people and not the actual actions the CCP takes to control narratives domestically and abroad. You are unhinged and not tethered to reality. Go to China, people openly discuss and even the news they have commentary on the decisions being made. I'm not saying they have absolute free speech, but we don't have that here either. We're better off in my opinion, but China isn't some fucked up dystopia where everyone is hiding in fear. Quite the opposite.

I do believe there should be government programs that encourage healthy living, like not using drugs. I also believe in government programs like public schooling. Either way there should be some oversight. The method does matter, I'm not okay with the CIA ans USAID using my tax dollars to troonify mediums of entertainment. I'm not okay with China having direct influence in the USA either.
 
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