Crime Violent Crime Falls in the US, Homicides Drop at Record Pace, Despite MSM Narratives

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Jack V Savage said:
I think "nationwide riots" is a kind of crazy exaggeration. There were nationwide protests, and a very small number of them had some riots. The total property damage for all of it combined was like the equivalent of one building in NYC. It's not something that would significantly affect the national stats.
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C'mon buddy. 10's of 1,000's of lives were affected by the summer of riots. There are 100's of businesses that were destroyed and never recovered.
 
Jack V Savage said:
I think "nationwide riots" is a kind of crazy exaggeration. There were nationwide protests, and a very small number of them had some riots. The total property damage for all of it combined was like the equivalent of one building in NYC. It's not something that would significantly affect the national stats.
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Sorry, I disagree. Look at Kenosha, Portland, Minneapolis, and NYC. t can’t possibly fathom any event that would have made 2018 incur more damages that would put any year this century anyway near 2020.

Estimates of over 2 billion from 2020, however, I have seen dmi
https://fee.org/articles/george-flo...says-here-s-why-the-true-cost-is-even-higher/
 
nhbbear said:
Sorry, I disagree. Look at Kenosha, Portland, Minneapolis, and NYC. t can’t possibly fathom any event that would have made 2018 incur more damages that would put any year this century anyway near 2020.

Estimates of over 2 billion from 2020, however, I have seen dmi
https://fee.org/articles/george-flo...says-here-s-why-the-true-cost-is-even-higher/
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You disagree with what? $1B-$2B is in line with what I said. It's not a needle-mover. It's like 0.05% of crime costs for a typical year. You wouldn't notice it on a graph.
 
Jack V Savage said:
You disagree with what? $1B-$2B is in line with what I said. It's not a needle-mover. It's like 0.05% of crime costs for a typical year. You wouldn't notice it on a graph.
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We're all feeling the impact from the 2020 summer of riots that you think wasn't an issue.

My homeowners insurance went from $600 a year (pre-riots) to currently just over $1,000 a year.
 
I was going to post this a few weeks ago, but I forgot.

The National Retail Federation has admitted that they made up the entire shoplifting epidemic.


www.forbes.com

National Retail Federation Retracts Stats Amid Theft War Of Words

Industry body the National Retail Federation (NRF) has retracted a claim that organized retail crime accounted for nearly half the industry’s $94.5bn losses from theft
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

The stats that they were using came from a police lobbying group.

The media helped them cover up unjustified price hikes that were actually the driving cause behind inflation. They also helped cops get increased budgets to fight a non-existent crime wave.
 
same as jobs i guess. somebody convinced these people if we give you words or math with all the so called good things you will feel better lol even if reality on ground is different
 
DiddlyDoodly said:
We're all feeling the impact from the 2020 summer of riots that you think wasn't an issue.

My homeowners insurance went from $600 a year (pre-riots) to currently just over $1,000 a year.
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You think your home insurance increased due to those riots in 2020? cmon lol

You can't be this..
 
Phisher said:
I was going to post this a few weeks ago, but I forgot.

The National Retail Federation has admitted that they made up the entire shoplifting epidemic.


www.forbes.com

National Retail Federation Retracts Stats Amid Theft War Of Words

Industry body the National Retail Federation (NRF) has retracted a claim that organized retail crime accounted for nearly half the industry’s $94.5bn losses from theft
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

The stats that they were using came from a police lobbying group.

The media helped them cover up unjustified price hikes that were actually the driving cause behind inflation. They also helped cops get increased budgets to fight a non-existent crime wave.
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Fear is a powerful motivator, everyone tries to use it. Each political party has it's own hot buttons.
 
nhbbear said:
Who said that? I read somewhere that Portland alone was more than that
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Your link was to a Libertarian propaganda group, and they gave the usual estimate of $1B-$2B for national damage (which, obviously, is not evenly distributed around the country--most places had none, some had a decent chunk of the total). Again, not something that would visibly affect the stats.
 
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tastaylvr said:
You think your home insurance increased due to those riots in 2020? cmon lol

You can't be this..
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Insurance companies are not in business to lose money. If they have to pay out billions in extra damages, their customers will feel the impact.

You think that when Mcdonal's is forced to pay employees more money that the prices don't go up?
 
tastaylvr said:
So what are you trying to prove here?

That crime hasn't declined recently?

What is going through your brain here to nitpick semantics of an article?
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Imagine comparing and claiming a drop behind an increase the year prior and making such ludicrous claims.

The data compared to 66 (which is what the dummies referenced) is the more appropriate stat to understand.
 
Jack V Savage said:
You disagree with what? $1B-$2B is in line with what I said. It's not a needle-mover. It's like 0.05% of crime costs for a typical year. You wouldn't notice it on a graph.
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lol... Meh, $2 Billion in damages



Who cares. Those poor bastards have insurance. Doesn't matter if their insurance rates increase after.

https://fee.org/articles/george-flo...says-here-s-why-the-true-cost-is-even-higher/
In May 2020, the intersection stood in the path of riots that engulfed 5 miles of south Minneapolis after the murder of George Floyd. Law enforcement officers lost control of the city, resulting in an estimated $500 million in damage – more than 60% uninsured, according to the Lake Street Council.

Well... I guess most didn't have insurance.

Sorry
 
Jack V Savage said:
I think the problem is the opposite--people are afraid to admit anything positive if they irrationally hate the president. Obviously the fact that crime is falling so fast is a big news story, and it's not about reporting (look at homicide rates, for example). Generally, nothing seems to piss partisans off more than good news.
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Nah . . . crime can continue to fall while gun sales climb. That's music to my ears.
 
Natural Order said:
Imagine comparing and claiming a drop behind an increase the year prior and making such ludicrous claims.

The data compared to 66 (which is what the dummies referenced) is the more appropriate stat to understand.
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The fact that you believe this is indicative of the problem America faces every single day

imagine crime going down year over year for a decade but then we have gimps like you saying "but it's more dangerous than 1966"

like what?

no shit it's more dangerous than the last years of the Detroit car industry lol which was over 50 years ago..
 
So from what I gather it is true that it’s on the decline, but still higher than it was pre COVID?
 
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