Opinion Very weird article about Obama

[Jack V Savage]

That is not true at all. The debt increased dramatically under Obama. The debt never decreased while he was in office.

You're not addressing the points made. The impact of Obama's policy initiatives was a drastic reduction in debt. That's not a statement that you evaluate by looking at change in debt during a president's term in office.

 

[grizzard2bid]

Lol

 

[Seano]

You're not addressing the points made. The impact of Obama's policy initiatives was a drastic reduction in debt. That's not a statement that you evaluate by looking at change in debt during a president's term in office.

I'm addressing the point you made that Obama reduced debt (he did not) while calling everyone hypocrites. Which is funny because you're excusing Obama's massive debt increase yourself.

He did not reduce debt at all. He increased debt more than the previous 10 presidents combined. Debt is still increasing so I guess I'm wondering when we do see the Obama effect.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I'm addressing the point you made that Obama reduced debt (he did not) while calling everyone hypocrites. Which is funny because you're excusing Obama's massive debt increase yourself.

He did not reduce debt at all. He increased debt more than the previous 10 presidents combined. Debt is still increasing so I guess I'm wondering when we do see the Obama effect.

No, when you say that Obama increased the debt, you're making an outright false claim (as opposed to the misleading one that it increased by X while he was president). It's a fact that Obama drastically reduced debt. And also, we saw definitively that concerns expressed by Republicans about debt were not sincere.

 

[RabbitPunch36]

He faked his background. His father is a city council member and his mother is married to a doctor. That doesn't mean he didn't go through a tough and criminal upbringing, but that's not the point I'm trying to make. A song he was featured on had a ghostwriter, whether it was for him or not, and others have said he was stealing lyrics. There are countless cases of the popular artist having ghostwriters like Kanye, Lil Wayne, Drake, Cardi B, Nicki Minaj, Dre, Snoop, Post Malone, Lil Kim, Nas, and the list goes on. Again, whether or not he specificly had other people write his "lyrics" is not the point, the point is that there is a giant machinery behind these artist and everything is highly orchestrated. From image, to clothes, to beats, to lyrics and so on so forth. Hip hop is a 10+ billion dollar industry and artists are only making about 10-12% of that. It's all assembly line consumerism and you'd be a fool to believe that it's not being carefully packaged.

https://www.bmmagazine.co.uk/in-business/the-billion-dollar-hip-hop-industry/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmc...-the-music-industry-has-changed/#59c4c58d780f
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rap-is-leading-the-music-industrys-resurgence-696511/



Sure it sounds good sometimes, but it's music for gullible kids and grown idiots. I'm not singling out the hip hop industry though, in fact, that's just one part of it. I'm talking about the mainstream music industry as a whole. It's vapid, soulless, stupid, slickly produced fakery with "personas" and "images" instead of people. Imagine worshipping this trash as a mindless follower, celebrating being an airhead bimbo as per popstars, a "hoe" with big tits, or a drug addicted criminal. Worshipping money and flashy lights.

Don't lump Nas in with bums you listed.

 

[WTF2008]

lmao ok obama. you are the same guy that hangs around former drug dealer jayz and invites him to white house.

But wait, I've also heard a jayz song. We must be the same.

Obama is the Rock of politics. Good mic skills, but trash at his actual job.

 

[WTF2008]

Oh no. Let's get this straight.

Obama was best President ever and Trump is worse.

 

[trident]

Cousin of Dick Cheney and the Bush family.

It goes back pretty far but yeah. His mother was in the system. It's such a farce to make him our "first black president". A Black American means something very specific to me. That journey is not Obama's journey.

 

[NoDak]

<Lmaoo>

Good Christ, just read the first three pages ITT.

he doesn't really say anything concrete enough to be really false.

He's pretty good for geography, agriculture, energy and demographics as far as geopolitical implications are concerned but too short on industrial tech and sometimes downright woeful with social / domestic issues when he says anything about them.

Such as this, check it out when you have some extra leisure time. It isn't a "59 minute read" but it's extensive enough and entirely geography, natural resource and history-based; just generally fascinating and quite informative IMO. The foundation of 'American Exceptionalism'. We have some very decisive advantages compared to the rest of the globe.

The Geopolitics of the United States, Part 1: The Inevitable Empire

 

[all caps]

Obama is the Rock of politics. Good mic skills, but trash at his actual job.

Wtf? Are you trying to say The Rock was trash in the ring?

 

[Jack V Savage]

Such as this, check it out when you have some extra leisure time. It isn't a "59 minute read" but it's extensive enough and entirely geography, natural resource and history-based; just generally fascinating and quite informative IMO. The foundation of 'American Exceptionalism'. We have some very decisive advantages compared to the rest of the globe.

The Geopolitics of the United States, Part 1: The Inevitable Empire

The beginning seems deliberately designed to cause people to tune out. For example:

North America is a triangle-shaped continent centered in the temperate portions of the Northern Hemisphere. It is of sufficient size that its northern reaches are fully Arctic and its southern reaches are fully tropical. Predominant wind currents carry moisture from west to east across the continent.

Climatically, the continent consists of a series of wide north-south precipitation bands largely shaped by the landmass' longitudinal topography. The Rocky Mountains dominate the Western third of the northern and central parts of North America, generating a rain-shadow effect just east of the mountain range — an area known colloquially as the Great Plains. Farther east of this semiarid region are the well-watered plains of the prairie provinces of Canada and the American Midwest. This zone comprises both the most productive and the largest contiguous acreage of arable land on the planet.

So, in conclusion, North America is a land of contrasts.

I might have added a sentence in there...

 

[TurboHolocaust]

You're joking but I actually am a very small part Chinese.

Which very small part?

 

[Staph infection]

Obama was always more “conservative” than this board pretended he was. A lot of the things you see here are massive exaggerations or flat out misrepresentations of his attitudes.

In the end he just did what he was told by the powers trying to destroy the world and made his bank account grow.

 

[nac386]

In the end he just did what he was told by the powers trying to destroy the world and made his bank account grow.

Lol. Is your AV an Obama/Putin hybrid?

 

[Staph infection]

Lol. Is your AV an Obama/Putin hybrid?

Yes, there are a few other variations on it. Google pubama or pobama. I saw this and thought it was very cool and creepy.

 

[SEGA]

Jack help me understand it. If we can print 20 trillion dollars without inflation, then what stops us from writing off all debt, and printing money to make the debt holders whole?

I see what your saying...but if USA were to do that, whats stopping other countries from paying debt to USA?

Right now, this whole system works because USA the top dawg, goes with it.

However if the USA were to pull that, expect the world/banks to push back/conflict.

Now the USA could simply force other nations to pay their debt thru force but then the whole international system will essentially be like a Mafia war(already is, sort of)......and I believe the USA will only come out being a tyrant in this scenerio(A true tyrant)...we would be the "bad" guy...even if the USA were to be extremely isolationist and live off their own resources, the world will suffer, including usa...we would be cutting off a large part of the world which would hinder Human advancement.

Fact is USA benifits more from this sort of system than anybody else.

Having said that, I do want a new system and fuck the bailouts.

 

[DeJulez]

1/1024

Well my Aunt Bea said that when she watched me play basketball, the way I could play, that I got those genes from my papaw. And when she watched me play, she said she didn't get those genes and she thought this was the bad deal that she had gotten in life.

Can we get a pic of Jerry Mathers in blackface please.

 

[Andy Capp]

Victim culture is so deeply ingrained that its wrong to even point out why they are victims.

That said, Obama really did nothing to fight it, I agree with the article on that point. Don't complain about an issue you did nothing to correct when you led the country for almost a decade.

LOL @ the irony.

 

[Seano]

LOL @ the irony.

I'm pretty consistent on this topic I think, what irony do you detect?

 

[Andy Capp]

I'm pretty consistent on this topic I think, what irony do you detect?

"Don't complain about an issue you did nothing to correct..." Who did more complaining about things they did nothing to correct than the Senate Republican majority? Were you consistent in your criticism of them? I can't say I recall.

It sounds like you are trying to say 6 solid years of total obstructionism by the Republicans had nothing to do with how the government performed under Obama. It also sounds like you don't see a parallel in the complete inability of the Republicans to get anything done even once they controlled the Congress and the White House.

Obama's administration was spectacular success in comparison.