Crime Use it in a Sentence (special counsel thread v. 25)

[pinger]

I see a political prisoner. Wrong time, wrong place. Feds lied about her being a whore, then had to backtrack that. That's not a credible way to inform the public.

If she is in fact a spy, Russians couldn't find a more attractive spy? There are men better looking than this.

She is sleeping with fat republicans. You hardly need to be a temptress

Actually a plain Jane is more believable than a knockout.

 

[Deleted member 347815]

I'd replace Jesus with Putin with Photoshop, but it's 5 in the morning and I'm taking a shit.

 

[Rational Poster]

I see a political prisoner. Wrong time, wrong place. Feds lied about her being a whore, then had to backtrack that. That's not a credible way to inform the public.

If she is in fact a spy, Russians couldn't find a more attractive spy? There are men better looking than this.

I guess you don't know what you're talking about at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

I guess you don't know what you're talking about at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program

You'll have to forgive comrade .He's overworked and underpaid

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Shitbag agents of shitbag foreign governments and their shitbag enablers in this country are shit.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

no Russians!!

Everybody knew long ago that he vociferously denied it because he was up to his armpits in Russians.

You can practically sift his lies based on his denials.

 

[grizzard2bid]

I guess you don't know what you're talking about at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program

That's pitiful. Russia can't sleeper agent right either.

 

[Andy Capp]

id love to see butina bring down the nra but they could be bankrupt before that happens

"Without Butina, Erickson’s future looks rough. He remains a target of the feds, and sources close to him tell The Daily Beast he’s struggling to keep up with his legal bills."
LOL fuck that guy.

Interestingly, playing Devil's advocate for a moment, while this shows collusion between the NRA and the Russians, is does not actually connect the dots all the way to Trump himself, does it? Ah, but yes it does. Remember Aleksander Torshin?

"Butina helped arrange a trip to Moscow for NRA leaders in December 2015. She pushed for those Americans to visit with senior Russian politicians, according to the plea deal. The Americans on the trip met with Sergey Lavrov, Russia’s powerful minister of foreign affairs; and Dmitry Rogozin, a deputy of Vladimir Putin and a subject of U.S. sanctions.

After the trip, Butina sent a message to the central bank official (known to be Alexander Torshin) in Russian that has two translations in the plea agreement.

“We should let them express their gratitude now, we will put pressure on them quietly later,” reads the first translation.

“We should allow them to express their gratitude now, and then quietly press,” reads the second."


MAY 3-6, 2016
TRUMP JR. MEETS WITH KREMLIN-LINKED BANKER AT NRA CONVENTION

"Donald Trump Jr. meets with Aleksander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s central bank, at the N.R.A.’s annual convention in Louisville, Kentucky. The conservative operative who set up the meeting, Paul Erickson, had previously reached out to the Trump campaign aide Rick Dearborn about arranging the conversation, suggesting that the convention could serve as a point of “first contact” between Trump and Russia and that “Putin is deadly serious about building a good relationship with Mr. Trump” and would invite the then-candidate to Russia. Torshin subsequently emailed the Trump campaign with a “Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite.”"

But we've learned a lot since this became known. It would not necessarily have to have been the first communication between them when they could easily use Butina as a conduit. If this direct connection doesn't bring down Trump, what will?

 

[grizzard2bid]

I guess you don't know what you're talking about at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program

Goes back to my earlier statement that Russia can't do anything right. At least couple of chicks in this group had some sex appeal.

No charges were made that the individuals involved gained access to classified material

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

"Without Butina, Erickson’s future looks rough. He remains a target of the feds, and sources close to him tell The Daily Beast he’s struggling to keep up with his legal bills."
LOL fuck that guy.

Interestingly, playing Devil's advocate for a moment, while this shows collusion between the NRA and the Russians, is does not actually connect the dots all the way to Trump himself, does it? Ah, but yes it does. Remember Aleksander Torshin?

"Butina helped arrange a trip to Moscow for NRA leaders in December 2015. She pushed for those Americans to visit with senior Russian politicians, according to the plea deal. The Americans on the trip met with Sergey Lavrov, Russia’s powerful minister of foreign affairs; and Dmitry Rogozin, a deputy of Vladimir Putin and a subject of U.S. sanctions.

After the trip, Butina sent a message to the central bank official (known to be Alexander Torshin) in Russian that has two translations in the plea agreement.

“We should let them express their gratitude now, we will put pressure on them quietly later,” reads the first translation.

“We should allow them to express their gratitude now, and then quietly press,” reads the second."


MAY 3-6, 2016
TRUMP JR. MEETS WITH KREMLIN-LINKED BANKER AT NRA CONVENTION

"Donald Trump Jr. meets with Aleksander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s central bank, at the N.R.A.’s annual convention in Louisville, Kentucky. The conservative operative who set up the meeting, Paul Erickson, had previously reached out to the Trump campaign aide Rick Dearborn about arranging the conversation, suggesting that the convention could serve as a point of “first contact” between Trump and Russia and that “Putin is deadly serious about building a good relationship with Mr. Trump” and would invite the then-candidate to Russia. Torshin subsequently emailed the Trump campaign with a “Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite.”"

But we've learned a lot since this article was written. It would not necessarily have to have been the first communication between them when they could easily use Butina as a conduit. If this direct connection doesn't bring down Trump, what will?

Jr is so incredibly fucked. I wonder if he's the designated fall guy .

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

That's pitiful. Russia can't sleeper agent right either.

Nice edit there . Prior to your edit you were 100% ok with NRA and Russia sleeping together despite the existence of a guilty plea saying she broke the law .

How's the weather in St. Petersburg comrade

 

[grizzard2bid]

Shitty agents of shitty foreign governments and their shitty enablers in this country are shit.

Edited for accuracy. The firecroctch was bragging about her ties to Kremlin while drunk.

 

[Andy Capp]

Jr is so incredibly fucked. I wonder if he's the designated fall guy .

This has seemed likely to me for quite a while now. That appears to be the only remaining question, can Trump squeeze out enough plausible deniability to avoid any criminal responsibility or repercussions over this? To me, this Russian chick is the smoking gun people have been asking for. The only other thing that remains is to get Jr on record about whether daddy knew about it or not and then see if Mueller can prove otherwise.

Trump's answer to Butina's question in the video suggests he was prepped to signal agreement to cooperate, so I believe he's guilty, but it's flimsy from an evidentiary standpoint.

 

[grizzard2bid]

Nice edit there . Prior to your edit you were 100% ok with NRA and Russia sleeping together despite the existence of a guilty plea saying she broke the law .

How's the weather in St. Petersburg comrade

Don't get all adolescent on me.

I vacationed in St. Petersburg, actually. Beautiful city.
Weather was great.

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

This has seemed likely to me for quite a while now. That appears to be the only remaining question, can Trump squeeze out enough plausible deniability to avoid any criminal responsibility or repercussions over this? To me, this Russian chick is the smoking gun people have been asking for. The only other thing that remains is to get Jr on record about whether daddy knew about it or not and then see if Mueller can prove otherwise.

We have some circumstantial knowledge that daddy knew about tower meeting based on daddy writing the bullshit response Jr was going to give NYT then NYT said they had the emails to prove him wrong

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

no Russians!!

Yeah, 14 deep state Hillary plants!

 

[Andy Capp]

We have some circumstantial knowledge that daddy knew about tower meeting based on daddy writing the bullshit response Jr was going to give NYT then NYT said they had the emails to prove him wrong

Yes, also please see my edit to that post. But although that might be enough to convict in the court of public opinion, I'd like to see something really solid come from Mueller so that when faced with it, die hard supporters would really have to be crazy to deny his guilt. When taken together, the info from Cohen and Flynn, the guy that flipped on Stone, the guy from the Trump Org who got immunity, and now Butina, I think I'm going to get what I want. Up until this plea deal by Butina, I was not 100% sure Trump was anything more than an unwitting participant but now it's clear.

 

[Ophydian]

"Without Butina, Erickson’s future looks rough. He remains a target of the feds, and sources close to him tell The Daily Beast he’s struggling to keep up with his legal bills."
LOL fuck that guy.

Interestingly, playing Devil's advocate for a moment, while this shows collusion between the NRA and the Russians, is does not actually connect the dots all the way to Trump himself, does it? Ah, but yes it does. Remember Aleksander Torshin?

"Butina helped arrange a trip to Moscow for NRA leaders in December 2015. She pushed for those Americans to visit with senior Russian politicians, according to the plea deal. The Americans on the trip met with Sergey Lavrov, Russia’s powerful minister of foreign affairs; and Dmitry Rogozin, a deputy of Vladimir Putin and a subject of U.S. sanctions.

After the trip, Butina sent a message to the central bank official (known to be Alexander Torshin) in Russian that has two translations in the plea agreement.

“We should let them express their gratitude now, we will put pressure on them quietly later,” reads the first translation.

“We should allow them to express their gratitude now, and then quietly press,” reads the second."


MAY 3-6, 2016
TRUMP JR. MEETS WITH KREMLIN-LINKED BANKER AT NRA CONVENTION

"Donald Trump Jr. meets with Aleksander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s central bank, at the N.R.A.’s annual convention in Louisville, Kentucky. The conservative operative who set up the meeting, Paul Erickson, had previously reached out to the Trump campaign aide Rick Dearborn about arranging the conversation, suggesting that the convention could serve as a point of “first contact” between Trump and Russia and that “Putin is deadly serious about building a good relationship with Mr. Trump” and would invite the then-candidate to Russia. Torshin subsequently emailed the Trump campaign with a “Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite.”"

But we've learned a lot since this became known. It would not necessarily have to have been the first communication between them when they could easily use Butina as a conduit. If this direct connection doesn't bring down Trump, what will?

In a six degrees of Kevin Bacon I’m connected to Alexander Voloshin who is being claimed as connected to Butina and Torshin as the financier of their operations.

I doubt I get a knock on the door any time soon as I never met with him directly but you never know.

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

Yes, also please see my edit to that post. But although that might be enough to convict in the court of public opinion, I'd like to see something really solid come from Mueller so that when faced with it, die hard supporters would really have to be crazy to deny his guilt. When taken together, the info from Cohen and Flynn, the guy that flipped on Stone, the guy from the Trump Org who got immunity, and now Butina, I think I'm going to get what I want. Up until this plea deal by Butina, I was not 100% sure Trump was anything more than an unwitting participant but now it's clear.

If NYT could get emails .God only knows what Mueller got. Remember Manafort took notes on that meeting . I'd bet Gates has a copy of those notes which means Mueller has them

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

In a six degrees of Kevin Bacon I’m connected to Alexander Voloshin who is being claimed as connected to Butina and Torshin as the financier of their operations.

I doubt I get a knock on the door any time soon as I never met with him directly but you never know.

That deep state will get you