USA vs Russia

[AGGAMEMNON66]

Agreed. No one can doubt the toughness of the Russian soldiers in WWII, but they had several factors in their favor.

- The decision to invade in summer rather than spring, thus shortening the time available to fight before winter sets in.

- Splitting the German forces because of Hitler's obsession with capturing Stalingrad, a city with no strategic value.

- Lack of cold weather clothing and equipment, because the Nazis were expecting a relatively mild winter. In fact, it turned out to be unusually harsh even by Russian standards.

- Last but not least, millions of tons of supplies from the USA(Lend Lease)which was delivered by the British Merchant Navy in the North Atlantic Convoys; one of the most dangerous jobs of the War.



Killing Zone by Harry Macallion. A very interesting book, the author served with the British Parachute Regiment, the South African Recce Commandos, the SAS and the Royal Ulster Constabulary.

Its funny how undervauled this point is when people (at least on SD) talk about WWII


Keep in mind, the US basically took out the Japanese mostly on their own, while also fighting in Europe (war on multiple fronts) and by far out mass producing anyone else during the war. It helped the allies massively to have a giant industrialized country on the other side of the planet no where near the war that was acting as their own personal box store for goods and sevices. The Axis was in deep shit the instant the US entered that fight.

The Russians had the Germans in retreat mode around the same time we entered the fight, but the Germans could have recovered from that and possibly brought in the Japanese to help them if need be to turn the tide -if the US never gets involved.


And can you imagine if Hitler would have allowed the ME-262 jet fighters into the war to shoot shit down instead of insisting that they be made to carry bombs 2 full years before the war actually ended?


WWII is just some crazy shit, how the hell did we start talking abut this lol? My fault most likely..

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

You're right. We have to disarm american citizens first.

Come and get them.

 

[lapollarecords]

if Russia invaded Ukraine and ukrainians fought back with NATO entering the war on their side(and no nukes being used), they'd get their ass kicked even without american help. Ukraine is a big ass country to invade and control, Russia is not the USSR (less manpower, less everything) and there would be a coalition of a long list of countries(basically every european country) they'd have to fight. NATO vs Warsaw Pact in Europe back then, now it's Russia vs everyone else including all their former allies(Poland, Romania, Ukraine...). unlike WWII and Cold War, they are vastly outnumbered now(like 140 million russians vs 500 million in EU, plus 40 million ukrainians).

but of course, none of this will happen.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Its funny how undervauled this point is when people (at least on SD) talk about WWII


Keep in mind, the US basically took out the Japanese mostly on their own, while also fighting in Europe (war on multiple fronts) and by far out mass producing anyone else during the war. It helped the allies massively to have a giant industrialized country on the other side of the planet no where near the war that was acting as their own personal box store for goods and sevices. The Axis was in deep shit the instant the US entered that fight.

The Russians had the Germans in retreat mode around the same time we entered the fight, but the Germans could have recovered from that and possibly brought in the Japanese to help them if need be to turn the tide -if the US never gets involved.


And can you imagine if Hitler would have allowed the ME-262 jet fighters into the war to shoot shit down instead of insisting that they be made to carry bombs 2 full years before the war actually ended?


WWII is just some crazy shit, how the hell did we start talking abut this lol? My fault most likely..

The outcome of WWII was decided at Pearl Harbor. As soon as the US entered the War, with it's limitless manufacturing capability, it was only a question of when the War would end and what the cost would be. But who would win was no longer in doubt.

 

[MTRio]

Come and get them.

Not needed. You'll delivered them yourselves to the government.

 

[MTRio]

The outcome of WWII was decided at Pearl Harbor. As soon as the US entered the War, with it's limitless manufacturing capability, it was only a question of when the War would end and what the cost would be. But who would win was no longer in doubt.

Yes, good idea to have China to manufacture everything.

 

[ZroC]

Nukes win.

Anyone saying Russia is an easy war is just a fucking idiot.

 

[rindan***]

it's funny how many of these conservative right wing nutters take the side of our arch geopolitical enemy simply because they hate obama and democrats

you lost the culture war, too fucking bad, it gives me great pleasure to say that if you don't like america and western culture then you can move right the fuck out to russia.

as a liberal I never thought I would get to say this even a decade ago, usually I would be on the receiving end of such sentiment

or you can just masturbate to some pictures of shirtless putin because he is a 'real man' and our nation is too 'pussyfied', whatever floats your boat. you loose

 

[PrisonOfIce]

it's funny how many of these conservative right wing nutters take the side of our arch geopolitical enemy simply because they hate obama and democrats

you lost the culture war, too fucking bad, it gives me great pleasure to say that if you don't like america and western culture then you can move right the fuck out to russia.

as a liberal I never thought I would get to say this even a decade ago, usually I would be on the receiving end of such sentiment

or you can just masturbate to some pictures of shirtless putin because he is a 'real man' and our nation is too 'pussyfied', whatever floats your boat. you loose

You sound like a man at peace with himself. Don't off yourself if 'western culture' isn't just the way you like it 10 years more down the line.

 

[rindan***]

You sound like a man at peace with himself. Don't off yourself if 'western culture' isn't just the way you like it 10 years more down the line.

I am pretty sure I am on the right side of history and progress :icon_chee

I don't see things getting any easier for social conservatives in the united states down the line, and them lashing out by disowning their own country and supporting a foreign leader is certainly entertaining

 

[Abortedone]

I am pretty sure I am on the right side of history and progress :icon_chee

I don't see things getting any easier for social conservatives in the united states down the line, and them lashing out by disowning their own country and supporting a foreign leader is certainly entertaining

If your talking about McCain dude is the biggest Rhino republican out there so don't take any stock in that moron

 

[Scrody]

USA via air force.

 

[MTRio]

From Kasparov's facebook profile:

Send a big supply to DC & Brussels! Let's hope it gets there in time to save Ukraine. << A new drug to cure Chamberlain Foreign Policy Dysfunction. Treats appeasement, engagement & resets! Also cures chronic blurry red line disease. >>

 

[PrisonOfIce]

If your talking about McCain dude is the biggest Rhino republican out there so don't take any stock in that moron

He's talking about the fact that he thinks all his values are divine inspiration in a godless world. And that by virtue of them so obviously not having been transmitted to him by dominant social trends, soon everyone else must come to feel the same way.

 

[Abortedone]

He's talking about the fact that he thinks all his values are divine inspiration in a godless world. And that by virtue of them so obviously not having been transmitted to him by dominant social trends, soon everyone else must come to feel the same way.

oh I get it he wants his own cult like a few other whack jobs in the past

 

[drstrangelov]

Time to bomb Crimea to the point that it's industrially useless. Send that sawed off closet case in Russia a message that he's at best a background player, then let the wolves in his own backyard tear him to shreds.

 

[PrisonOfIce]

oh I get it he wants his own cult like a few other whack jobs in the past

If you listen to those social conservatives you'll go to hell!!!

 

[rindan***]

If your talking about McCain dude is the biggest Rhino republican out there so don't take any stock in that moron

if you can not decipher the very simple point I was making in my post then perhaps this forum is not the right place for you

 

[rindan***]

If you listen to those social conservatives you'll go to hell!!!

if you listen to those social conservatives you will go far in life

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

Not needed. You'll delivered them yourselves to the government.

Sorry, the people in this country won't bow and bend like the weak people of shithole 3rd world countries.


So, come and get them.