Urine Trouble (Mueller Thread v. 16)

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bobgeese said:
Good god, you really must have been a 3rd rate proscecuter.

Having possession of classified material is in fact illegal. And it is the literal definition of entrapment as I posted earlier. I’ll post it again if you would like.
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Well according to you, how is it considered classified information if it is fake...?
 
Darkballs said:
Now whats the big fucking difference in what i said was legal (having an informant asking questions) and your hypothetical? That would be that one requires a warrant and the other doesn't. You keep trying to spin an informant communicating with the trump campaign as "spying" and talking to as "surveillance." The later would require a warrant, the former would not. Trouble for you, no matter how you spin it, the former applies.

There is nothing wrong with sending an informant out to anyone, even if you have zero to go on. So long as no conduct amounts to a "search", there is no warrant issue. You can be butthurt that they decided to target you, and wonder why they wanted to target you, and even speculate that they targeted you because they hate you. It still wouldn't make that collection improper or illegal.

And of course you blow off the actual illegal stuff found and mischaracterize it as just harmless "lying to the feds." Yeah, lying to the feds about a bunch of other activities that would be illegal. But you don't care about that. Yet you rage at the way intelligence was gathered on these rubes. You partisanship has your ethics all backwards, and you know it.
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Illegal stuff? They lied about talking to Russians. That is not illegal.

Oh wait. The Logan Act. LOL
 
Tekk said:
You can accept deez nuts. Other posters have already shot holes in your latest bombshell. Remember when you went on and on for weeks about how the Nunes memo was gonna be a game changer.
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Why don’t you post those “holes”? Oh that’s right, there weren’t any. Nobody will actually address it, because it’s inexcusable corruption at the highest level of government agencies.

And the nunes memo was quite significant, look what it helped lead to today.


 
syct23 said:
Well according to you, how is it considered classified information if it is fake...?
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Are you even aware what we’re talking about?

Clintons emails contained classified information. Being in possession of classified material is illegal.


Please try to keep up.
 
bobgeese said:
Why don’t you post those “holes”? Oh that’s right, there weren’t any. Nobody will actually address it, because it’s inexcusable corruption at the highest level of government agencies.

And the nunes memo was quite significant, look what it helped lead to today.


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this is it, they will finally impeach hillary
 
elfeliz said:
this is it, they will finally impeach hillary
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Or, and stick with me,

The heads of these government agencies that oversaw this misconduct will be disgraced, and will go down in the history books as corrupt, further diminishing the itty bitty legacy of the obama administration.


You pretend as if many of these people haven’t already been demoted, forced to retire, or outright fired.


But please, keep embarrassing yourself.
 
bobgeese said:
Or, and stick with me,

The heads of these government agencies that oversaw this misconduct will be disgraced, and will go down in the history books as corrupt, further diminishing the itty bitty legacy of the obama administration.


You pretend as if many of these people haven’t already been demoted, forced to retire, or outright fired.


But please, keep embarrassing yourself.
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she lost, get over it. LOL
 
bobgeese said:
Are you even aware what we’re talking about?

Clintons emails contained classified information. Being in possession of classified material is illegal.


Please try to keep up.
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Blood pressure Bob..

It's a real thing..

Should calm down a bit, take a day off.
 
Strychnine said:
Oh, I will...
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@syct23

While you’re waiting, watch this and realize I’ve been right the entire time.

You guys are nobody’s on the Internet claiming these things didn’t happen. These are sitting members of Congress who are stating they did. They’re also backed up by the IG report, as well as statements given during the investigations.



 
bobgeese said:
@syct23

While you’re waiting, watch this and realize I’ve been right the entire time.

You guys are nobody’s on the Internet claiming these things didn’t happen. These are sitting members of Congress who are stating they did. They’re also backed up by the IG report, as well as statements given during the investigations.



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Did you just @ me mutherfucker!!
 
So first no meetings with Russians, then no we were just talking about adoptions and now version 25 is we were entrapped into the meeting. We did not want to go but the spy made us do it.
The reason for the meeting has changed more than Da Kush’s financial disclosure.
 
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bobgeese said:
Are you even aware what we’re talking about?

Clintons emails contained classified information. Being in possession of classified material is illegal.


Please try to keep up.
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So according to your definition of entrapment, it's illegal when the cops sell drugs to an individual because it's entrapment....right?
 
JamesRussler said:
You do realize that "districts" are federal, right?

Also, while the President's pardon power extends to "offenses against the United States," it's actually not clear what the effect would be on state prosecutions because the Court hasn't fleshed out the nuances yet. Commentators on the Left often state, in conclusory fashion, that "presidential pardon power does not extend to state crimes." However, the Supreme Court has held that the President's pardon power is "unlimited," and "extends to every offence known to the law." Ex parte Garland, 71 U.S. 333 (1866). This "power of the President is not subject to legislative control," and a "pardon reaches both the punishment prescribed for the offence and the guilt of the offender . . . so that, in the eye of the law, the offender is as innocent as if he had never committed the offence." Id. at 380-381. Because state and federal criminal law now overlap significantly, the Court would probably have to consider whether the elements of a pardoned federal crime are coextensive with a state crime. IMO, a Presidential pardon would have to reach all offenses except those which are distinctly state law offense (e.g. burglary, assault, etc.). Whatever approach the Court uses, it is doubtful that it would allow states to do an end-run around the President's pardon power by allowing them to prosecute the same exact conduct under state law.
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Can Trump pardon himself, and everyone involved in this case from his campaign, his lawyer/fixer and basically end this investigation legally without it being obstruction of justice?
 
computer fogie said:
Nobody has added this yet:

Trump lawyer 'paid by Ukraine' to arrange White House talks

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44215656
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The payment was arranged by intermediaries acting for Ukraine's leader, Petro Poroshenko, the sources said, though Mr Cohen was not registered as a representative of Ukraine as required by US law.

Mr Cohen denies the allegation.

The meeting at the White House was last June. Shortly after the Ukrainian president returned home, his country's anti-corruption agency stopped its investigation into Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort.
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Jesus lol
 
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