Urine Trouble (Mueller Thread v. 16)

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Adam Schiff just penned an op-ed entitled

Democrats: Don’t Take the Bait on Impeachment

He goes on to say “we’ve seen troubling evidence” that he conveniently doesn’t cite, but then states “but we’ll have to see if that rises to the level where it should be settled by impeachment rather than the ballot box”


Let me translate that Washington speak for you.

We investigated the issue and all we could find was we saw members of the trump team talk to Russians, that’s not illegal, so let me begin to tamper down the hopes of impeachment, because it’s looking like that’s not gonna happen.


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LOLOLOLOLOLLLLL
 
I just caught up re Rudy Giuliani.

Holy shit, how is this real life? If this were ANY other president in world history.....well, it wouldn't be. The level of incompetence in this charade is incredible and the right is completely silent. Can you even imagine if Obama had just casually just kept up this farce, i.e. "yeah, I had no idea about this $130k hush payment, or the woman it was paid to, but yeah I reimbursed it, but I was only generally aware of the matter, and I didn't know what I was reimbursing."

Holy fucking shit. To lie is one thing. Every president lies. But to lie and be THIS fucking bad at it??? Unreal.

lol @ wiretapping the President. The FBI would be going just as hard at Hillary if she won, right?

...are you kidding? Did you watch the Benghazi hearings?

Also...remember when the FBI publicly resumed investigation into her a week before the election?
 
I just caught up re Rudy Giuliani.

Holy shit, how is this real life? If this were ANY other president in world history.....well, it wouldn't be. The level of incompetence in this charade is incredible and the right is completely silent. Can you even imagine if Obama had just casually just kept up this farce, i.e. "yeah, I had no idea about this $130k hush payment, or the woman it was paid to, but yeah I reimbursed it, but I was only generally aware of the matter, and I didn't know what I was reimbursing."

Holy fucking shit. To lie is one thing. Every president lies. But to lie and be THIS fucking bad at it??? Unreal.



...are you kidding? Did you watch the Benghazi hearings?

Also...remember when the FBI publicly resumed investigation into her a week before the election?
The right would have went absolutely bananas if Obama had an affair with a porn star.
 
The right would have went absolutely bananas if Obama had an affair with a porn star.

I know they've really let us down with how they completely tolerate outright corruption and indefensible policy and blatant lying, but I really think that once Trump wears a tan suit, their principles will trigger and their outrage and indignation will finally appear.
 
Donald Trump’s better off litigating: Alan Dershowitz

In my experience, subjects of criminal investigations rarely help themselves by speaking to prosecutors or testifying before a grand jury. Far more often, they hurt themselves by falling into a perjury trap carefully set by prosecutors.

When prosecutors invite a subject to talk to them, they are not trying to help the subject. They are trying to bolster their case against him. Subjects can become targets and then defedants even if they tell the truth.

They can fill gaps or make statements that are contradicted by other witnesses who the prosecutors chose to believe. That is why, in my half-century of practicing criminal law, I have never advised a client to speak to prosecutors unless the alternative is worse.

In this case, the alternative may well be a grand jury subpoena, which is worse in that the subject must appear without his lawyer and without limitations of time and subject matter. But it is better in that it can be challenged legally. A negotiated appearance cannot.

There are several grounds on which President Trump’s lawyers could challenge a subpoena. The broadest ground would be that a sitting president cannot be compelled to appear before a grand jury and answer questions. The courts are likely to reject so broad an argument, as they rejected President Clinton’s claim that he could not be required to sit for a deposition.

A somewhat narrower objection would be to answering any questions that relate to the exercise of his presidential authority under Article 2 of the Constitution. Just as members of Congress and the judiciary cannot be questioned about the exercise of their constitutional powers, so, too, a president cannot be required to explain why he fired FBI Director James Comey or national security adviser Michael Flynn.

President George H. W. Bush was not questioned about why he pardoned Caspar Weinberger and others on the eve of their trials, even though it was obvious to everyone, especially the special prosecutor, that he pardoned them for the improper purpose of shutting down the Iran-Contra investigation, which might well have pointed a finger of accusation at him.

I think that President Trump would have a good chance of prevailing on this issue.

Finally, he could challenge questions that go beyond the scope of the special counsel’s mandate. Even if he prevailed on that challenge, it would only be a Pyrrhic victory, since the same questions could be put to him by a grand jury in the Southern District of New York.

All in all, I think the president is probably better off litigating than testifying, though he might end up doing both.

Alan Dershowitz is professor of law emeritus at Harvard University andauthor of Trumped Up: How Criminalization of Political Differences Endangers Democracy.
 
Ya know, for a conspiracy theory (wrongdoing by the obama administration during the election), there sure have been a number of people fired...


James Baker

Lisa Page

Mike Kortan, FBI Assistant Director for Public Affairs

Josh Campbell, Special Assistant to James Comey -

David Laufman, Chief of the Justice Department’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section

John Carlin, Assistant Attorney General – Head of DOJ’s National Security Division

Sally Yates, Deputy Attorney General & Acting Attorney General

Mary McCord, Acting Assistant Attorney General – Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division

Bruce Ohr, Associate Deputy Attorney General – Demoted

Rachel Brand,Associate Attorney General – No. 3 official behind Deputy AG Rosenstein -

Andrew McCabe

I’m sure a few more as the IG report isn’t even out yet.

Not to mention democrats paid a foreign agent to collect Russian propaganda, package it and present to to the fisa court without informing them Hillary’s campaign paid for it, to receive a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.
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Remind again who was committing wrongdoing by trying to influence the election...


And he STILL won.
 
Ya know, for a conspiracy theory (wrongdoing by the obama administration during the election), there sure have been a number of people fired...


James Baker

Lisa Page

Mike Kortan, FBI Assistant Director for Public Affairs

Josh Campbell, Special Assistant to James Comey -

David Laufman, Chief of the Justice Department’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section

John Carlin, Assistant Attorney General – Head of DOJ’s National Security Division

Sally Yates, Deputy Attorney General & Acting Attorney General

Mary McCord, Acting Assistant Attorney General – Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division

Bruce Ohr, Associate Deputy Attorney General – Demoted

Rachel Brand,Associate Attorney General – No. 3 official behind Deputy AG Rosenstein -

Andrew McCabe

I’m sure a few more as the IG report isn’t even out yet.

Not to mention democrats paid a foreign agent to collect Russian propaganda, package it and present to to the fisa court without informing them Hillary’s campaign paid for it, to receive a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.
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Remind again who was committing wrongdoing by trying to influence the election...


And he STILL won.

Odd comment. Why are you lumping Yates in with McCabe? The former was fired for publicly refusing to carry out Trump administration policy, while the latter was shown by the DOJ's OIG to have lied under oath and leaked sensitive information.

What is your evidence that Baker, Page, and Kortan, Campbell, were fired?

Also, how many of these firings clearly fit with the narrative you're pushing?
 
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Odd comment. Why are you lumping Yates in with McCabe? The former was fired for publicly refusing to carry out Trump administration policy, while the latter was shown by the OIG to have lied under oath and leaked sensitive information.

What is your evidence that Baker, Page, and Kortan, Campbell, were fired?

Also, how many of these firings clearly fit with the narrative you're pushing?



In Washington, resigning is being fired, while being allowed to save face.

Yates is an example of people willing to do wrong to defy trump. You don’t think these folks were doing everything they could to prevent him from being elected?

It’s no longer a narrative. There is more than enough evidence to conclude members of the obama administration were trying their best to prevent trumps election, and sabotage him after he won.
 
The right would have went absolutely bananas if Obama had an affair with a porn star.

Ones a lawyer and academic, the other is a New York developer turned reality tv Star.

They have different standards, and people would have felt betrayed if Obama was fucking porn stars since it would go against his character.

Trump on the other hand...id be confused/upset if he wasn’t raw digging dirty porn stars. He names buildings after himself!
 
Ones a lawyer and academic, the other is a New York developer turned reality tv Star.

They have different standards, and people would have felt betrayed if Obama was fucking porn stars since it would go against his character.

Trump on the other hand...id be confused/upset if he wasn’t raw digging dirty porn stars. He names buildings after himself!



Outrage at Trump fucking Whormy!!!

Silence when Obama armed jihadists.


The absolute state of the left...
 
I know they've really let us down with how they completely tolerate outright corruption and indefensible policy and blatant lying, but I really think that once Trump wears a tan suit, their principles will trigger and their outrage and indignation will finally appear.

I think they pretty deliberately voted for someone doesn't know what Dijon mustard is. Mistakes were made and, by gawd, they were going to make things right. #neveragain
 
Rudy is really not helping. It was 2 1/2 hours. Okay it was 3!!
 
Outrage at Trump fucking Whormy!!!

Silence when Obama armed jihadists.


The absolute state of the left...

While Republican lawmakers cream their shorts over Iran, Trump sold Saudi Arabia, a principle player in the 9/11 attacks over 80 billion in arms to wage an illegal war in Yemen.

How about not being such a hack whore, and apply the same standards for both presidents? Fuck Obama for arming "moderates" and fuck Trump for selling the Wahhabists high grade weapons.
 
While Republican lawmakers cream their shorts over Iran, Trump sold Saudi Arabia, a principle player in the 9/11 attacks over 80 billion in arms to wage an illegal war in Yemen.

How about not being such a hack whore, and apply the same standards for both presidents? Fuck Obama for arming "moderates" and fuck Trump for selling the Wahhabists high grade weapons.


Try posting without resorting to childish name calling.
 
Ones a lawyer and academic, the other is a New York developer turned reality tv Star.

They have different standards, and people would have felt betrayed if Obama was fucking porn stars since it would go against his character.

Trump on the other hand...id be confused/upset if he wasn’t raw digging dirty porn stars. He names buildings after himself!


By your logic if Trump sank the encomony into a depression we should be ok with it because he’s gone through 4 bankruptcies so we knew what we were getting when you all voted for him.
 
While Republican lawmakers cream their shorts over Iran, Trump sold Saudi Arabia, a principle player in the 9/11 attacks over 80 billion in arms to wage an illegal war in Yemen.

How about not being such a hack whore, and apply the same standards for both presidents? Fuck Obama for arming "moderates" and fuck Trump for selling the Wahhabists high grade weapons.
You know obama sold to he same people right
 
3 but it was 4? Oh my god. This is finally it! It’s all over


Oh my god who gives a shit

Such revelations, like that fact check when Trump said Clinton Acid washed her emails but it was really Bleachbit !!!!!!
 
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