Umar vs Figueredo odds are CRAZY.

[svmr_db]

Yes,. It does make perfect sense as he's a former defending champion who moved up and had won 3 fights in a row at a higher weight class while he also beat the most recent title challenger it was actually the only thing that makes sense at all from a merit perspective.

Umar defeated a higher ranked fighter, a better fighter (who already defeated Vera) and it was a main event.

Amusing how passionate people get for a Figgy BW title shot when everyone knows he has no chance to actually win it.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Amusing how passionate people get for a Figgy BW title shot when everyone knows he has no chance to actually win it.

That's the thing about merit. It's not given to those we favor, it's earned.

Umar vs Sandhagen wasn't even merited either, They just wanted to push him along as fast as possible so they gave him the most winnable high ranked match up they could give, so they could shoehorn him into a title fight and cash on the popularity of the dagi fighters.

 

[svmr_db]

That's the thing about merit. It's not given to those we favor, It's given to those who have earned it.

Umar vs Sandhagen wasn't even merited either.

Like I've mentioned, the argument with some validity against Umar is that he shouldn't have got the Sandhagen opportunity in the first place. Regardless, he stepped in there and proved he's on that level by beating Sandhagen to earn a title shot.

There's a lot of value in defeating the #2 guy. Even if the path to get there wasn't ideal. I think you're too caught up on it being Umar rather than the idea of someone beating a highly ranked contender. It didn't even have to be Umar, for example if Patchy Mix was in the UFC at that time & was the one getting the chance to fight Sandhagen in his debut he could've earned a title shot off that, even if it was his only fight in the UFC.

 

[RockyLockridge]

I think you're too caught up on it being Umar rather than the idea of someone beating a highly ranked contender. It didn't even have to be Umar, for example if Patchy Mix was in the UFC at that time & was the one getting the chance to fight Sandhagen in his debut he could've earned a title shot off that, even if it was his only fight in the UFC.

NO I dont think it's umar it has nothing to do with him really you say if they gave it to mix and mix won, They'd give him the title shot.

but this is just false equivelency because patchy mix wouldn't be given a winnable top 5 fight in his very first fight because patchy mix isn't getting that rub. No one is getting a rub like that.


IMO, It's just one of those things about mma that reminds me that whomever the champ or contender is, didn't always exactly earn it. figgy being a multiple time, defending flyweight champion who moved up and won 3 fights, 1 former champ, and 2 top 10 ranked ranked fights, with one of those 2 being the most recent title challenger should just about seal the deal. name ONE time any former champ moved up a category, and didn't get a title shot off of 3 consecutive wins. it's unheard of.

 

[TheMMAnalyst]

Came up as 2 time flyweight champ, beat #8 Font, fought unranked Cody next which wasn't helpful but was settling prior booking when Cody was supposed to challenge him for the belt at Fly, then beat #4 Vera. Extremely slow played for a champ.

Meanwhile, Umar (who got ranked after 2 fights in the division and even made it into the top 10, despite not ever fighting a ranked opponent) gets to fight his first ever ranked opponent from the #10 spot against #2 Sandhagen and that's enough for the shot. His first ever ranked match was a title eliminator. Fig instead had to fight Yan

Shows the difference being a recent multi time champ gets you, vs what having the last name Nurmagedov gets you

Beat #8 Font that was 1-3 in his last 4 with his only win being over an unranked Yanez who fought like a moron - decision win over an aging gatekeeper, but still a solid debut performance from Figgy regardless.

Beat Cody that was 2-2 in his last 4 with the wins being over unranked almost cut guys Trevon Giles and Brian Kelleher - was actually getting worked over (lost the 1st on every card) before he grapple-fucked a very washed Cody.

Beat #4 Vera that was 2-2 in his last 4, but at least was just coming off the undeserved title fight loss to Suga - most impressive was that he dropped Vera in the third, but it was 1-1 heading into the final round and it was razor close before the knockdown.

Figgy was a 36 year-old flyweight that barely speaks English when he moved up to a division that wasn't short of contenders, it's not surprising that he didn't get a "push" from the UFC to make him an instant contender. He still got two opportunities to get a title shot off a win over an actual elite opponent in Yan and Sandhagen, but clearly lost both.

Umar isn't even 30 yet, was undefeated before Merab, speaks English well, has the Nurmagmedov name + connections with Ali - if you were a fight promoter which guy would you be pushing into contention?

 

[HerpDerp]

Figgy just turned 38. While Montel Jackson was a good win for him, I can't say that I thought he looked good.

I will say though that the odds do seem a bit exaggerated in favor of Umar, considering Figgy has only lost to Sandhagen and Yan in recent memory, but even with that being said, there's still no way I would bet on Figgy.

It's a nightmare match up for Figgy as well: Umar outdoes him everywhere.

 

[NicholasJBasile]

I was just looking at odds for the next UFC card and saw something that blew me away. Umar Numagomedov is scheduled to face Deiveson Figueredo. Umar should be pretty big favorite as Fig has 1 split decision win and 2 losses in his last 3 as well as being 38 years old. However, Umar is a staggering -2000 vs Figueredo +850.

This is absolutely insane. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he has much of a chance, but that's one of the largest spreads in promotional history.

To anyone saying 'sounds about right'...you know nothing about betting odds. Anthony Joshua was only -1200 vs Jake Paul +500. Randy Couture was around -800 vs James Toney. Jon Jones was around -750 vs Chael.

Are they expecting a ton of money on Umar? Is it just blatant disrespect to Fig? Why does this fight have the widest odds in UFC history? Certainly there have been much more lopsided fights. It's not even the biggest squash mash on THIS card. They found another can for that Gautier guy to smash and he's only -1100.


I'm not expecting Fig to win, but these are the craziest odds I've ever seen.

I would think it should be something like Umar -270 Deveison +220 or something