UFC's Greg Hardy targets transition to boxing, predicts KOs of Fury, Joshua, Wilder

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DK Metcalf and Deebo Samuel will be fat/small too when they enter USADA. Greg Hardy is an A level athlete. he was a pro bowler and All-Pro team. the reason he didn't last in the league is because of his domestic abuse case, shitty attitude, and frequently getting the wrong kind of attention.

Ahh yes, so the dude who was lazy and had a bad attitude and gassed in MMA is a peak athlete while the guys who work way harder with more talent and better measurables are exactly the same as him

Vince Young and Matt Cassel made probowls too lmao. And yes tell me more about how the NFL doesn't drug test.

So weird how many keyboard warriors seem to despise NFL and NBA players for uhhhh, "reasons" that they should probably talk to a therapist about.

 

[StrikerKing]

lol Hardy is not an A-level athlete tho. Look at how fat he is. And yet he still almost finished #4 ranked Tuivasa.

Someone like DK Metcalf or Deebo Samuel are an A-Level athlete in the NFL. Hardy is/was a trench warrior with no cardio.

Maybe take a gander at how fucking sad the Top 15 rankings @ UFC HW is?

Sergei Pavlovich is currently the 5th ranked HW lmao.
Serghai Spivac is 12th
Tybura 10th
Daukaus 11th
Ivanov 14th
Abdurakhimov 15th

These are old slow dudes.

Those guys are way too small for heavyweight. No matter how athletic they are, I think the majority of any NFL crossover is going to run into the same problem that Hardy did. The chances of becoming exceptionally skilled at any one aspect of MMA such as wrestling, submissions, striking, etc is very very slim if they start in their 20s with no previous combat experience. Not to mention all the other traits that can't be measured i.e. grit, determination, chin, etc.

And lol that Greg "almost finished" Tuivasa. He landed 1 solid punch but was nowhere close to finishing him.

 

[Mind Mine]

A current NFL player would have far more a chance of getting an elite boxer to bite the bait. Greg Hardly Winning would be lucky if Holyfield boxed his ears off

 

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Those guys are way too small for heavyweight. No matter how athletic they are, I think the majority of any NFL crossover is going to run into the same problem that Hardy did. The chances of becoming exceptionally skilled at any one aspect of MMA such as wrestling, submissions, striking, etc is very very slim if they start in their 20s with no previous combat experience. Not to mention all the other traits that can't be measured i.e. grit, determination, chin, etc.

And lol that Greg "almost finished" Tuivasa. He landed 1 solid punch but was nowhere close to finishing him.

lol you're retarded my dude.
DK Metcalf is the same height as Hardy with longer reach and bigger hands, can bench and squat more than Hardy. Hardy was a fat fuck who had to cut to make 265lb, missed the limit, and then gassed.

It's funny to watch a keyboard warrior talk about grit and determination when Hardy was literally known for being lazy and having a bad attitude lmao.
Meanwhile DK Metcalf put up way better workout numbers a few months after having neck surgery.

But hey I get it, you're a tribalist baby who wants to think fat fuck MMA HWs somehow try hard while NFL guys are "lazy thugs" or something like that.
Again, probably should see a therapist.
Each fighter and athlete is different. Currently not many in MMA because it pays like dogshit and the UFC was so desperate for HW talent that they signed a woman-beater dude who the NFL didn't want anything to do with because he wasn't good enough anymore.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Ahh yes, so the dude who was lazy and had a bad attitude is a peak athlete while the guys who work way harder with more talent and better measurables are exactly the same as him

Vince Young and Matt Cassel made probowls too lmao.

And yes tell me more about how the NFL doesn't drug test.

just because you work way harder doesn't mean you're any better of an athlete. BJ Penn is a lot more athletic than Diego Sanchez and i guarantee Diego works twice as hard as BJ does. sure they have more talent, but they play a different position than Hardy does. i don't see how them being good makes Greg Hardy shittier?

Vince Young and Matt Cassel are quarterbacks, why even mention them? Greg Hardy made the pro bowl as a defensive end.

DK Metcalf and Deebo could be absolute trash at MMA, no matter how shitty the HW division is. besides, DK and Deebo are most likely a LHW and MW.

you bring up NFL players who are great but in the same breath shit on a former NFL player who was pretty damn good too? i don't get it.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Keep pretending like this dude is the peak of NFL athlete lmao.
DE's are told to get big and fat and are rotated in for 5-10 yard rushes

Meanwhile guys with more cardio, longer reach, bigger hands, more speed, more strength are actually in the NFL still and getting paid more per year than Ben Rothwell would make if he was a Top 25 HW for literally 80 years.

he's not the peak of an NFL athlete, but that doesn't mean he isn't an A level athlete just because 1 guy is better than him in the combine. if we're going by that logic there is literally only a handful of A level athletes. if we're going by combine numbers than Mike Mamula must be an A level athlete too

 

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he's not the peak of an NFL athlete, but that doesn't mean he isn't an A level athlete just because 1 guy is better than him in the combine. if we're going by that logic there is literally only a handful of A level athletes. if we're going by combine numbers than Mike Mamula must be an A level athlete too

Gotcha, so he is nowhere near the top athlete, but he is A-Level because you say so lmao....
What does a LB from 25 years ago during your golden years have to do with this?
Obviously you didn't get many As in school.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Gotcha, so he is nowhere near the top athlete, but he is A-Level because you say so lmao....
What does a LB from 25 years ago during your golden years have to do with this?
Obviously you didn't get many As in school.

why are you being such a cunt about this? LB from 25 yrs ago has comparable numbers to your A level athlete in the combine. that's the relevant part. the other relevant part was that he was a mediocre NFL player. citing combine numbers like they tell the whole story is ignorant, that's my point. you're getting angry like you are DK Metcalf and Deebo Samuels wife. Greg Hardy was a top athlete, just look at his sacks and tackles in Carolina. he broke team records there. combine numbers don't mean shit, if you knew anything you'd know people game the combine all the time. they get specific training in order to lower their times and up their numbers. those things don't always translate to on field production.

just because DK Metcalf is a better athlete than Greg Hardy doesn't make Greg Hardy not an A level athlete. it's like saying because LeBron is better than Shaq so Shaq isn't an A level athlete.

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

lol Hardy is not an A-level athlete tho. Look at how fat he is. And yet he still almost finished #4 ranked Tuivasa.

Someone like DK Metcalf or Deebo Samuel are an A-Level athlete in the NFL. Hardy is/was a trench warrior with no cardio.

Maybe take a gander at how fucking sad the Top 15 rankings @ UFC HW is?

Sergei Pavlovich is currently the 5th ranked HW lmao.
Serghai Spivac is 12th
Tybura 10th
Daukaus 11th
Ivanov 14th
Abdurakhimov 15th

These are old slow dudes.

He got one good shot on Tuivasa and then Tai wrecked his shit lol

 

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No.

 

[JinKazama]

sigh hard not to root against this guy

 

[Lee_]

lmao @ that useless platitude about nukes. What a lame cop out of an argument.

He took Volkov to a decision.
He dropped someone who has one of the toughest chins in mma history.
Those things happened no matter how many idioms you pull out of your ass.

And he still was a fat old fuck who use an inhaler, but you're clinging to some weird desperate fantasy that he is one of the top athletes in the world with a gut and manboobs
So again: It shows the UFC HW division is absolute fucking garbage that someone with no cardio and no combat experience, who is way less athletic than top NFL and NBA, still managed to be a Top 25 guy in a sport he just picked up because the UFC has such shit tier HWs.

But hey I get it, there's a lot of you out there who get off on some weird hatred of NFL and NBA players for uhhh, "reasons".
The division sucks so much ass that Dana is bringing in the dude Hardy KO'ed on the Cantender Series years ago as "fresh blood" now lmao.

lmao @ that useless platitude about nukes. What a lame cop out of an argument.

He took Volkov to a decision.
He dropped someone who has one of the toughest chins in mma history.
Those things happened no matter how many idioms you pull out of your ass.

And he still was a fat old fuck who use an inhaler, but you're clinging to some weird desperate fantasy that he is one of the top athletes in the world with a gut and manboobs
So again: It shows the UFC HW division is absolute fucking garbage that someone with no cardio and no combat experience, who is way less athletic than top NFL and NBA, still managed to be a Top 25 guy in a sport he just picked up because the UFC has such shit tier HWs.

But hey I get it, there's a lot of you out there who get off on some weird hatred of NFL and NBA players for uhhh, "reasons".
The division sucks so much ass that Dana is bringing in the dude Hardy KO'ed on the Cantender Series years ago as "fresh blood" now lmao.

Childlike posters are often into MMAth, which is 100% what your post is; trying a little too hard to justify Hardy.

Anyway, If someone is too childlike to carry on an adult conversation, or even an adult debate, I don't carry on any conversation with them. In a few years, perhaps you will mature to a point where you are capable carrying on an adult conversation, so I will see you then. Have a great day pal.

 

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Childlike posters are often into MMAth, which is 100% what your post is; trying a little too hard to justify Hardy.

Anyway, If someone is too childlike to carry on an adult conversation, or even an adult debate, I don't carry on any conversation with them. In a few years, perhaps you will mature to a point where you are capable carrying on an adult conversation, so I will see you then. Have a great day pal.

It's not MMath sped.
You imps are the one MMAthing by saying fatass Greg Hardy not winning a world title proves NFL and NBA guys wouldn't be good because in your retarded little minded Hardy=A level = All NBA NHL etc... would fail.
All I said was Hardy isn't anywhere close to a top athlete for being decent in the NFL and failing because he was a lazy womanbeater.

 

[Lee_]

Those guys are way too small for heavyweight. No matter how athletic they are, I think the majority of any NFL crossover is going to run into the same problem that Hardy did. The chances of becoming exceptionally skilled at any one aspect of MMA such as wrestling, submissions, striking, etc is very very slim if they start in their 20s with no previous combat experience. Not to mention all the other traits that can't be measured i.e. grit, determination, chin, etc.

And lol that Greg "almost finished" Tuivasa. He landed 1 solid punch but was nowhere close to finishing him.

He's a youngster, give him a break, we all acted and talked in a foolish way at one time.

 

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He got one good shot on Tuivasa and then Tai wrecked his shit lol

And? I'm saying that someone as shitty as Hardy rocking granite-chin Tai, when the only others to do it are 2 world title holders (Gane, JDS), shows that the division sucks ass.
I don't think Hardy is a great fighter.
Just has a minor bit of athletic skill and power, which is pathetically enough to be a competitive UFC HW.

As such, if you lined up 50 dudes with better athletic skills than Hardy by far from all the best of the best NBA+NFL guys, a few of them would be able to be HW contenders if they committed full-time, given how much the division sucks.

Brock Lesnar, a dude who didn't like getting punched, won a world title and would be favored against all but like 3-4 guys if he entered the cage today.

 

[Lee_]

It's not MMath sped.
You imps are the one MMAthing by saying fatass Greg Hardy not winning a world title proves NFL and NBA guys would suck.
All I said was Hardy isn't anywhere close to a top athlete for being decent in the NFL and failing because he was a lazy womanbeater.

Boy you are really into calling names like a kid. You need to do that sort of thing with other juveniles or juvenile acting adults. You've proved you aren't worth talking to aside from any opinions I might disagree with. You are exposing and embarrassing yourself talking like that in a mostly adult forum. I hope you don't think anyone finds you clever, funny, or intelligent; that's right out of an eight-grade locker. Go ahead and keep it up; humiliate yourself some more.

 

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Boy you are really into calling names like a kid. You need to do that sort of thing with other juveniles or juvenile acting adults. You've proved you aren't worth talking to aside from any opinions I might disagree with. You are exposing and embarrassing yourself talking like that in a mostly adult forum. I hope you don't think anyone finds you clever, funny, or intelligent; that's right out of an eight-grade locker. Go ahead and keep it up; humiliate yourself some more.

You have a comprehension issue and are going on some weird ass masturbatory tangents.

 

[Lee_]

You have a comprehension issue and are going on some weird ass masturbatory tangents.

Keep it up kiddo. You are only making a bigger fool of yourself with every post.

 

[markantony20]

I wouldn’t even put him at Stiverne level in boxing.

 

[NoSmilez]

He should have took some time building himself. I know he was a little older but HWs are fine. He had one year's worth of experience then he stayed in the UFC for 4 years. He doesn't really know much in terms of MMA.