News UFC/TKO is requesting an amendment change to the Ali Act

Nothing unexpected, what I want to know is what they need to get it changed, do they need 60 or more members.. The amendment will still require substantial support in the Senate, even with trump helping Dana this obstacle seems overwhelming.
 
Nothing unexpected, what I want to know is what they need to get it changed, do they need 60 or more members.. The amendment will still require substantial support in the Senate, even with trump helping Dana this obstacle seems overwhelming.
Unfortunately I could see it happening. If Roe v. Wade could be overturned then anything's possible.
 
I'm in favor of settling this dispute in the time honored tradition of fisticuffs
The Heavyweight Champion of the World vs the greasy goof from the UFC
When Usyk wins, Dana has to go away from boxing forever. Also, leave the UFC. fuck it

Too bad Dana is just a figurehead, it's Turki and Silverlake behind this.
 
Too bad Dana is just a figurehead, it's Turki and Silverlake behind this.
who are they?

Anyway, boxers, unlike ufc fighters will have more options and so it's probably a waste of his time.
 
The Donald Trump of combat sports has arrived. The news just came in that Dana wants to implement a 25% tariff on outlandish fighters coming to the US.
Also he wants specifically ukrainian boxers to fight with one arm tied behind their back when going up against russian boxers.
 
who are they?

Anyway, boxers, unlike ufc fighters will have more options and so it's probably a waste of his time.

Silverlake is one of the biggest equity firms in the world, it's what essentially bought the UFC since it owns Endeavor. It's one of if not the strongest entities in Hollywood, owns WWE too. Them joining up with Turki who's paying and making all these boxing matches happen to create a preeminent promotion and Dana having Trump as a personal friend. It definitely makes you wonder.
 
Silverlake is one of the biggest equity firms in the world, it's what essentially bought the UFC since it owns Endeavor. It's one of if not the strongest entities in Hollywood, owns WWE too. Them joining up with Turki who's paying and making all these boxing matches happen to create a preeminent promotion and Dana having Trump as a personal friend. It definitely makes you wonder.
I did say this the last time but boxing isn't just an american sport anymore anyways so the Ali act might be a non-factor.

I really don't see boxers being desperate enough to help Dana either way.
 
I did say this the last time but boxing isn't just an american sport anymore anyways so the Ali act might be a non-factor.

I really don't see boxers being desperate enough to help Dana either way.

Do you think MMA is just an American sport, lmao? The only major promotion is American based but obviously the sports huge in Brazil, Russia, Poland, US and growing in a lot of places like Central Asia, Oceania, UK/Ireland, Mexico, Peru, Argentina, France and it's quite big throughout the Caucasus like Armenia, Georgia, Russian republics etc. Most major boxing promotions like Golden Boy, DAZN, Top Rank are all US based too and it has the same issues where Latinos and Americans are over represented and privileged in a sport due to them being key audiences and markets like the UFC does. It's the same shit, boxers just have more rights after fighting back from being exploited for decades. Also shotout to MMA making the Asian Games, one step closer to being an Olympic sport potentially.

The idea isn't boxers being desperate, the idea is that Silverlake and Turki teaming up can muscle around all the other major promoters short term to eat up talent over 5-10 years and corner the market, then start to chisel away at the sport for increased profit from there....which usually works. People are selfish and think short term/personal gain by nature. I'd be concerned about it as a boxing fan, I know I am. Hopefully nothing comes of it because inevitably it'll be bad for the sport if it does.
 
Do you think MMA is just an American sport, lmao? The only major promotion is American based but obviously the sports huge in Brazil, Russia, Poland, US and growing in a lot of places like Central Asia, Oceania, UK/Ireland, Mexico, Peru, Argentina, France and it's quite big throughout the Caucasus like Armenia, Georgia, Russian republics etc. Most major boxing promotions like Golden Boy, DAZN, Top Rank are all US based too and it has the same issues where Latinos and Americans are over represented and privileged in a sport due to them being key audiences and markets like the UFC does. It's the same shit, boxers just have more rights after fighting back from being exploited for decades. Also shotout to MMA making the Asian Games, one step closer to being an Olympic sport potentially.

The idea isn't boxers being desperate, the idea is that Silverlake and Turki teaming up can muscle around all the other major promoters short term to eat up talent over 5-10 years and corner the market, then start to chisel away at the sport for increased profit from there....which usually works. People are selfish and think short term/personal gain by nature. I'd be concerned about it as a boxing fan, I know I am. Hopefully nothing comes of it because inevitably it'll be bad for the sport if it does.
i know mma is global, i'm not talking about mma. Boxing is global and were' talking about the Ali act, the ali act is only enforceable in the states, how does that affect what happens overseas, which is the way the sport is going. I just don't think boxers would tolerate Dana's shenanigans, I keep saying (to deaf ears apparently) they are totally different people than mma fighters. MMA fighters fight for nothing because they have some sort of personal issue that makes it a good idea to them. Boxers, for however bad they might manage money, are accustomed to those bloated purses, no ones taking that away and if Dana tries, someone else will just pay more, it's not like the UFC in any way.

Also, Dana is so inexperienced and has been talking the same shit for how long? He's done nothing in boxing and he won't do anything if he can't bring the bucks.
 
Dana and the greedy people behind him want to have a monopoly on boxing. Besides MMA it's the only sport where millions are. He should rather consolidate the fading UFC dominance instead of having two foot in two worlds, especially in one he knows nothing about.

Even with money, Boxing is so divided than it will never be unified into one single organization for historical and political reasons. Look at Turki, did he build his own promotion on his own alone, no, he could even not build an army of Saudi boxers prospects, though he makes things happen, interesting things, but nothing much.

In boxing, all you can do with money is to be a bridge, not your own island.

The wish to remove the Ali Act is not a good sign of good intention. They want to have unlimited power and restriction to do anything they want without consequences.

Right now, what Dana needs to understand is that most mma fighters are dogs, but most boxers are wolves. Boxing is structured as a wolf sport, not as a dog sport, trying to make it a dog sport is a disgrace.

"In the big picture, the Ali Act sought to apply the most basic federal-level oversight (if not full-on enforcement) of best practices meant to reduce the likelihood that boxers could be exploited by an existing system of governance that was as decentralized as it was unregulated, opaque, and corrupt. While the act did not create a single top-down governing body for the sport in the US, it empowered state athletic commissions to put clearer rules and transparencies in place as it relates to a laundry list of factors including:

  • The sanctity of contracts and assurances of compensation
  • Fighter rating systems and how title challengers are determined
  • Conflicts of interest
  • The relationships between athletes and their managers and promoters
  • Yes, folks, full-on criminal conspiracies and racketeering!
For example, the act requires promoters to (1) submit copies of all fight contracts and related agreements between themselves and participating fighters to the relevant state athletic commission and (2) communicate to fighters what their own shares of fight-related revenues are separate from the athletes’ purses.

All told, while the law has drawn several entirely reasonable criticisms — for instance, it grants power to state agencies to enforce new rules without explaining in much of any detail what those rules ought to be, and certain rules simply go unenforced altogether — the Muhammad Ali Act is generally considered a step forward for boxing and the dignity and safety of its athletes, even if just a modest one."

MORE ABOUT THE ALI ACT.

My opinion is that the Saudis never bringed the blueprint, but only the cashflow. Turki as a official job is to increase Saudi's soft power, by making events happening in his country.

If you really want to increase your country soft power when you are wealthy, build a huge boxing complex, pick orphans from the streets, select them, develop them, and build the next Saudi Naoya Inoue, the next Saudi Floyd, the next Saudi Tyson.

Saudi Arabia needs icons more than they need foreigner icons to compete in bouts in their country. When they will understand that, probably never.
Fading UFC dominance?

You guys live in a dream world of impotent rage
 
i know mma is global, i'm not talking about mma. Boxing is global and were' talking about the Ali act, the ali act is only enforceable in the states, how does that affect what happens overseas, which is the way the sport is going. I just don't think boxers would tolerate Dana's shenanigans, I keep saying (to deaf ears apparently) they are totally different people than mma fighters. MMA fighters fight for nothing because they have some sort of personal issue that makes it a good idea to them. Boxers, for however bad they might manage money, are accustomed to those bloated purses, no ones taking that away and if Dana tries, someone else will just pay more, it's not like the UFC in any way.

Also, Dana is so inexperienced and has been talking the same shit for how long? He's done nothing in boxing and he won't do anything if he can't bring the bucks.

It's not Dana man, it's Turki who's putting on all big boxing bouts joining up with Silverlake to become a boxing promotion and them having connections with Trump and trying reconfigure the Ali act.
 
It's not Dana man, it's Turki who's putting on all big boxing bouts joining up with Silverlake to become a boxing promotion and them having connections with Trump and trying reconfigure the Ali act.
aren't a lot of these events happening out the country these days?
 
Can we get this thread in UFC forum? It belongs in both imo.
We are talking about an existing MMA overlord seeking to break the boxing world. And given the failures (and dizzying heights) of some of the existing boxing promotions, I fully expect TKO to come barging in once the door is open as wide as they are waiting for.

Lots of things may be considered evil, but I consider this kind of thing socially evil. Combat sports are already a lowest social standard in many ways, so exploiting that further is tragic.
 
they asked the prick about this at the ufc presser, he batted it away with a frown, tuki is embedding a parasite into the boxing eco system, yuck !
 
Turki can try what he wants, but at the moment that is throwing cash at fighters, which will always work with prize fighters

Having a mingebag scumbag trying to short change fighters will not work, and he unless they continue to throw cash at fighters, White is getting nowhere fast

does he think he is going to sign fighters and pay them peanuts because he is the only game in town, unlike MMA, boxing doesnt work like that
 
Say whatever you want to say about the Saudi, but they are making things happen.
 
This is very true, I just know how much Dana has always wanted to pay fighters as little as possible and I hate that greasy douche for it



Wouldn't want people thinking you were just making things up. Looks like a few other links I had regarding pay and contracts are 404 now, sadly.
 

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