UFC switch to PFL format

[Ghostoftheville]

well obviously you can : you can have unexpected, or even unwanted oppositions. That's the very interest of tournaments (i don't like multiple fights the same day for the same reason as you, btw).

But you wouldn't even get unexpected matchups just due to rankings. Unless you're suggesting a 16 person tournament, if we're going that big we're almost guaranteed cancellations and changes.

 

[kingmob6]

Fuck yea for tournaments. If Dana wanted to keep some flexibility for big money fights, he could let the lower ranked fighters earn their stripes, and have like 20 to 10th ranked fighters duke it out Mortal combat style to get into top 10 as an example.

 

[BowserJr]

I genuinely can't be sure of whether this is a troll thread. PFL was an unmitigated disaster.

The whole problem with the regular season/playoff format were all the rematches that nobody wanted. Emiliano Sordi fought Bozigit Ataev three times in a 12 month period.

Jake Shields got mauled by Cooper then had to rematch him two months later. Same thing happened with Chris Curtis and Magomedkerimov.

There were countless other rematches nobody wanted.

It was literally one of the dumbest concepts in MMA history. I would say YAMMA was better conceived.

Anybody who thinks the UFC should in any way mirror what PFL did clearly never actually followed the PFL seasons. They were terrible and pointless, and only saved because some of the fights were good. But you didn't need a tournament format to have good fights.

Now, early Bellator? That was a solid system. You earn a title shot by winning an 8 man tournament spread across several months. But the reality is the UFC does the same thing. They just don't have formal brackets.

Well what I like is that they have a point system based on the outcome of the matches

I'm thinking a system similar to European soccer leagues. Some sort of aggregate point system. I'm just thinking of a more thorough champ vetting process that eliminates becoming a champ based on popularity and favorable match making alone which happens often in ufc

I'll create a separate thread with examples of how it would work

 

[HHJ]

Fuck yea for tournaments. If Dana wanted to keep some flexibility for big money fights, he could let the lower ranked fighters earn their stripes, and have like 20 to 10th ranked fighters duke it out Mortal combat style to get into top 10 as an example.

Why do all that when you could fight one guy maybe 2 guys to get in top 10? Getting into top 10 don't gotta be this hard.

 

[Jeandoozz]

But you wouldn't even get unexpected matchups just due to rankings. Unless you're suggesting a 16 person tournament, if we're going that big we're almost guaranteed cancellations and changes.

yes i'm suggesting things like 16 persons tournaments, or 8 persons seasons with division. Cancelation and changes are not a big deal because you have it in any format (khabib/ferg, zabit/yair...mcgregor/diaz...). You can have a rule of replacement, or even forfaits.

Another format i would agree with would be something with a clear point system for rankings. Based on who you beat (ranking wise) and how if you want to avoid too much wall n stall. For exemple : victory = 10- opponent rank (depending on the depth of the division) + 5 for Rd 1 finish + 3 for rd 2-3 finish + 1 for dec. And if you want to add some more spectaculus control : +x for fotn/kootn/subotn etc, even PPV numbers or instagram followers may add points, ahah !. You put rankings at 0 (or more, maybe) every 2 or 3 years. You can go on match making, but you would have a clear ranking, and you could rule something like title shots are obligatory for the man with the better ranking + you can't have 2 title shots in a raw (no instant rematch, maybe except for specific circumstances : a champ may have granted an instant rematch if he loses after 3 successful defenses).

Do you like this UFC of mine ?

 

[HHJ]

yes i'm suggesting things like 16 persons tournaments, or 8 persons seasons with division. Cancelation and changes are not a big deal because you have it in any format (khabib/ferg, zabit/yair...mcgregor/diaz...). You can have a rule of replacement, or even forfaits.

Another format i would agree with would be something with a clear point system for rankings. Based on who you beat (ranking wise) and how if you want to avoid too much wall n stall. For exemple : victory = 10- opponent rank (depending on the depth of the division) + 5 for Rd 1 finish + 3 for rd 2-3 finish + 1 for dec. And if you want to add some more spectaculus control : +x for fotn/kootn/subotn etc, even PPV numbers or instagram followers may add points, ahah !. You put rankings at 0 (or more, maybe) every 2 or 3 years. You can go on match making, but you would have a clear ranking, and you could rule something like title shots are obligatory for the man with the better ranking + you can't have 2 title shots in a raw (no instant rematch, maybe except for specific circumstances : a champ may have granted an instant rematch if he loses after 3 successful defenses).

Do you like this UFC of mine ?

Nah. Its a pipe dream

UFC:Hey conor wanna be in a tourney?
Conor: No.
UFC: Why not?
Conor: Have ya got it to pay me to fight that often? lol and then pay all those udders on the card?
Are ye even gonna make ya money back lol? Let dem udders fight and the winner can fight me.
Have ye had a gander at me cardio? lol

UFC: Hey Khabib wanna be in a tourney?
Khabib: This is number one bullshit
UFC: Why?
Khabib: I am champion,I dont have to fight in stupid tourney. You pay me 10 million each fight? Let me see contract.
Let them kill each other for right to fight with me,if they want belt.

UFC: Hey Porier wanna be in a tourney?
Daniel: What do i get?
UFC: well not alot,honestly,not if we gotta pay you 3 times. But we wont give you a title shot for a long time if you dont compete in it
Daniel: FUCK!

UFC: Hey Cerrone you wanna-
Cerrone:IM YOUR HUCKLEBERRY!

 

[Jeandoozz]

Nah. Its a pipe dream

UFC:Hey conor wanna be in a tourney?
Conor: No.
UFC: Why not?
Conor: Have ya got it to pay me to fight that often? lol and then pay all those udders on the card?
Are ye even gonna make ya money back lol? Let dem udders fight and the winner can fight me.
Have ye had a gander at me cardio? lol

UFC: Hey Khabib wanna be in a tourney?
Khabib: This is number one bullshit
UFC: Why?
Khabib: I am champion,I dont have to fight in stupid tourney. You pay me 10 million each fight? Let me see contract.
Let them kill each other for right to fight with me,if they want belt.

UFC: Hey Porier wanna be in a tourney?
Daniel: What do i get?
UFC: well not alot,honestly,not if we gotta pay you 3 times. But we wont give you a title shot for a long time if you dont compete in it
Daniel: FUCK!

UFC: Hey Cerrone you wanna-
Cerrone:IM YOUR HUCKLEBERRY!

ahah, what are you, a politician ?

HHJ : We will tax rich people
The rich : No.
HHJ : Ok, ok, we won't do this.

You can't judge the interest of a tournament or of any other format by the way that Conor or Khabib would react lol.

 

[HHJ]

ahah, what are you, a politician ?

HHJ : We will tax rich people
The rich : No.
HHJ : Ok, ok, we won't do this.

You can't judge the interest of a tournament or of any other format by the way that Conor or Khabib would react lol.

Its not about interest,its about it not ever happenng logistically in this day and age.
Im sure the fantasy threads have their own sub forum lol

fans would want a stacked card with all their champions defending their belts on the same card but so what? they aint doin that shit. it would be DUMB for them to do that shit as a business.

 

[kingmob6]

Why do all that when you could fight one guy maybe 2 guys to get in top 10? Getting into top 10 don't gotta be this hard.

Many guys who start lower have to go on 4-6 fight winning streaks to break top 10, so no, if you are ranked 20th, you are not breaking into top 5-10 with 2 fights, unless your name is Khamzat. Dana could easily incentivize this tournament with like 200K prize or something, and give the highest rated fighters a bye in the first round for example as well. Very easy to make this worthwhile for all parties involved.

 

[skylolow]

You guys do realize behind the scenes that is more or less what the match makers are doing on the match up of side of things usually. They just aren't tied down to it 100% and can make changes if need be.

 

[pointblankstrike]

I like the 3 events tournament format.

 

[Rajon Rondo]

Tournaments are horrible because it doesn't allow matchmakers to make exciting fights.

 

[HaulParris]

Would you be as interested, more interested or less interested?

I would be more interested.

I think Jones would become exciting again, usman probably wouldn't be champ, and we'd see more competitive fights

I would like it a lot