News UFC releases Josh Fremd following weight miss & fight cancellation

I wonder what the cut off point is for Dana and the crew?

Sometimes when a guy turns down a fight due to a weight miss, they get ripped to shreds.

On this occasion, the weight misser gets canned.

I'm surprised they didn't cut them both if Abdul Razak won't take a fight after a measly 3 pound weight miss.
 
Jon! said:
I wonder what the cut off point is for Dana and the crew?

Sometimes when a guy turns down a fight due to a weight miss, they get ripped to shreds.

On this occasion, the weight misser gets canned.

I'm surprised they didn't cut them both if Abdul Razak won't take a fight after a measly 3 pound weight miss.
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Why should they have to fight someone that can't make weight? And 3 lbs means they didn't even try hard so they won't be drained.
 
Jon! said:
I wonder what the cut off point is for Dana and the crew?

Sometimes when a guy turns down a fight due to a weight miss, they get ripped to shreds.

On this occasion, the weight misser gets canned.

I'm surprised they didn't cut them both if Abdul Razak won't take a fight after a measly 3 pound weight miss.
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Abdul didn't do anything wrong, it's not on him to accommodate Fremd's mistakes.
 
He was a remarkably mediocre fighter who's had issues with weight cuts before. I imagine they were also annoyed with him pulling out of the Almeida bout. Dude had one remotely memorable performance where he fraud-checked Dumas in Sedrique's UFC debut, but the rest of his legacy has been him getting absolutely smoked or going life-and-death with Jamie Pickett in a snoozer of a fight.

Can't say I'm all that disappointed. I mean Middleweight needs all the blood it can get and grapplers in particular, but Josh wasn't exactly setting the world on fire.
 
Mike said:
Why should they have to fight someone that can't make weight? And 3 lbs means they didn't even try hard so they won't be drained.
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I agree, but that wasn't what I was asking.

We know the UFC lean on fighters to accept fights once an opponent has missed weight - Dana was very unhappy with Wonderboy when he refused to fight Michel Pereira, for example - but maybe that was more Wonderboy demanding full pay, to be fair.
 
Jon! said:
I agree, but that wasn't what I was asking.

We know the UFC lean on fighters to accept fights once an opponent has missed weight - Dana was very unhappy with Wonderboy when he refused to fight Michel Pereira, for example - but maybe that was more Wonderboy demanding full pay, to be fair.
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He also went off on Michel, and forced him to go to 185 or be released. Michel now looking amazing at 185, headlining a card.
 
TCE said:
He also went off on Michel, and forced him to go to 185 or be released. Michel now looking amazing at 185, headlining a card.
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Sure.

Dana and the UFC are consistently hard on fighters who miss weight, which is absolutely right, those are the rules that the fighters agree to.

It's just interesting to see how things play out in the media when someone refuses a fight for a minor weight miss. Obviously when someone changes weight class just to accommodate a pathetically lazy opponent, that's also cool as fuck and I'm sure they get rewarded, but it's always been an interesting one for me.

There have been a few instances where guys did the UFC a solid and took a fight at a weight disadvantage, then got released anyway for losing. I think that's my main bugbear with this.

Refuse to fight: Imperil your opponent. Take the fight: Give your opponent a chance they didn't deserve.
 
I called this in the PBP. Pretty obvious cut.


Fremd is better than his 2-4 in the UFC record, but two big weight misses is a very bad look.
 
Jon! said:
Sure.

Dana and the UFC are consistently hard on fighters who miss weight, which is absolutely right, those are the rules that the fighters agree to.

It's just interesting to see how things play out in the media when someone refuses a fight for a minor weight miss. Obviously when someone changes weight class just to accommodate a pathetically lazy opponent, that's also cool as fuck and I'm sure they get rewarded, but it's always been an interesting one for me.

There have been a few instances where guys did the UFC a solid and took a fight at a weight disadvantage, then got released anyway for losing. I think that's my main bugbear with this.

Refuse to fight: Imperil your opponent. Take the fight: Give your opponent a chance they didn't deserve.
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Im guessing Abdul had more fights left on his contract, Fremd is 2-4 in the UFC, not that Abdul´s 6-6-1 is that impressive, but he probably has more fights left and didnt ask to be paid, the UFC seems to punish the guy that doesnt take the fight...and tries to get paid.
 
El Fernas said:
Im guessing Abdul had more fights left on his contract, Fremd is 2-4 in the UFC, not that Abdul´s 6-6-1 is that impressive, but he probably has more fights left and didnt ask to be paid, the UFC seems to punish the guy that doesnt take the fight...and tries to get paid.
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Yeah most likely ARAH has more on his deal.

He needs to be careful though, this guy is also 2-4 in his last 6 (excluding the NC), and he's 39 and a bit inactive. Perhaps he was wise to turn down the fight knowing for a fact the UFC cut him with a loss. If there's no obvious sign of immediate UFC fury, he's probably okay - but the booking will be telling now. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets thrown to an absolute beast.
 
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