UFC/Pride Middleweight Champions with least-to-most Top 10 ranked wins at Middleweight.

[BowserJr]

How would you know what I’m learning?

That's the only thing to learn

 

[mister piscadinha]

i'm pretty sure bisping was a top10 MW when hendo beat him, or was the fight at LHW?

anyway, rankings are bullshit

 

[BowserJr]

How would you know what I’m learning?

I just know

 

[Zebra Cheeks]

That's the only thing to learn

Sounds to me like your ignorant of others perspectives. You’ve a long way to go.

 

[BowserJr]

Sounds to me like your ignorant of others perspectives. You’ve a long way to go.

Get your head out of your AV.

Fight Matrix is trash. They don't ha e Hendo as a top 10 MW when he was the Pride 183 champ. That's all you need to know to determine they're trash

 

[Choco]

I think Dan Henderson, Vitor Belfort, and Lee murray were all top 10 middleweights at the time Anderson beat them. Hendo was the pride champ

Lee Murray? For beating 2003 Pele?
Vitor? For beating 2009 Lindland?

Not that Vitor wasn't a top guy, just untested in the division.

 

[Here's Johnny!]

This is both interesting and super flawed...

 

[Hdfi]

new champ:

Dricus Du Plessis
#8 Derek Brunson
#3 Robert Whittaker
#1 Sean Strickland

Du Plessis has 3 top ten wins.

 

[acannxr]

Added du Plessis' resume.

 

[volcom5]

Fight Matrix rankings are trash

These really just trash past champions and make recent fighters look better.

Just 1 small example was Hendo being the 183lb Pride champ fighting Silva for a true undisputed champ of that time. Hendo is not even on that list lol

You’re wrong, FightMatrix had Dan Henderson as the #6 LHW prior to fighting Wanderlei Silva. He was also ranked at #2 at MW but then loss to Misaki prior to moving up and fighting Vitor, Misaki then loss to Filho which further pushed Dan Henderson lower on the MW rankings.

No, what you learn is fight matrix rankings are trash

Well it’s only trash when you’re trying to push a narrative, am I right?

Wrong

Sakurai was #1 WW

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Then he lost to Silva making silva #1

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Jones priced himself put of HW vs Ngannou until the day Ngannou left UFC. It is known

I gave you GSP stats on his opponents during his reign already a.d you just pretend d I didn't lol

You really claimed GSP cleared out Multiple Divisions, Lol.

Look what we have here, the hypocrite using the trash FightMatrix to push his agenda.

This is you claiming Anderson Silva was the #1 WW when he defeated Sakurai, guess what you’re wrong. Sakurai was not the number 1 WW when Anderson Silva defeated him in August 2001, Carlos Newton was the number 1 WW when he defeated Pat Miletich for the WW Title in May 2001.

Only reason you’re trashing FightMatrix is because it ruins the agenda you have been trying to push for Fedor Emelianenko “elite winstreak” Lol. when in reality, no matter how you chop it, his win streak consist of a lot of lower end fighters.
Elite #340 ranked Heavyweight Hong Man Choi for instance…….i think thats a record for all the GOAT candidates. No other GOAT candidate fought a triple digit ranked opponent in their reign, Fedor did…. Not one, but actually 3 opponents ranked in the triple digits.

 

[BFoe]

Only reason you’re trashing FightMatrix is because it ruins the agenda you have been trying to push for Fedor Emelianenko “elite winstreak” Lol. when in reality, no matter how you chop it, his win streak consist of a lot of lower end fighters.
Elite #340 ranked Heavyweight Hong Man Choi for instance…….i think thats a record for all the GOAT candidates. No other GOAT candidate fought a triple digit ranked opponent in their reign, Fedor did…. Not one, but actually 3 opponents ranked in the triple digits.

The real problem with using Fight Matrix as a source for historical rankings is that their generated historical rankings just aren’t accurate. They often dont align with the actual historical rankings for the time period if you can find those.

Re: Fedor’s streak, no matter how you slice it the guy had a run at HW in multiple orgs across multiple rulesets in which he beat like 11 ranked opponents and had 5 total title defenses (which despite PRIDE’s booking style of not making each fight a title defense, is still a record at HW to this day), and didn’t suffer a legitimate loss for 10 years.
That’s a historic, all time great streak regardless of anything else.

 

[volcom5]

The real problem with using Fight Matrix as a source for historical rankings is that their generated historical rankings just aren’t accurate. They often dont align with the actual historical rankings for the time period if you can find those.

Re: Fedor’s streak, no matter how you slice it the guy had a run at HW in multiple orgs across multiple rulesets in which he beat like 11 ranked opponents and had 5 total title defenses (which despite PRIDE’s booking style of not making each fight a title defense, is still a record at HW to this day), and didn’t suffer a legitimate loss for 10 years.
That’s a historic, all time great streak regardless of anything else.

Honesty goes a long way, Fedor is a great fighter, i never did diminish his skills, i have said some outrageous shit when it pertains to Fedor,”he ducked the UFC” “ Schaub would beat Fedor easily.” etc, in response to a few of the dishonest, lieing hypocritical Fedor fans, who has messed up double standards, which at this point, i don’t think they’re even fans anymore and is using Fedor as a avatar to shit on other fighters. IE. Jones, Anderson, Aldo etc.

Fedor is one most well rounded HW’s and his win streak will probably not beaten at HW, but in MMA, a good handful of fighters has surpassed him in terms strength of competition & consistency fighting them. Merab beating Moraes, Aldo, Yan, Cejudo, O’Malley, Nurmagomedov & O’Malley is on par if not better than Fedors streak. same goes with the likes of the Jones & GSP’s.

Imagine Fedor beating Noguiera, Barnett, Kharitinov & Cro Cop consecutively, then add Sylvia & Arlovski in there after he fought some low level competition, bro. That’s fucking GOAT status right there.

 

[BowserJr]

You’re wrong, FightMatrix had Dan Henderson as the #6 LHW prior to fighting Wanderlei Silva. He was also ranked at #2 at MW but then loss to Misaki prior to moving up and fighting Vitor, Misaki then loss to Filho which further pushed Dan Henderson lower on the MW rankings.

Well it’s only trash when you’re trying to push a narrative, am I right?


You really claimed GSP cleared out Multiple Divisions, Lol.

Look what we have here, the hypocrite using the trash FightMatrix to push his agenda.

This is you claiming Anderson Silva was the #1 WW when he defeated Sakurai, guess what you’re wrong. Sakurai was not the number 1 WW when Anderson Silva defeated him in August 2001, Carlos Newton was the number 1 WW when he defeated Pat Miletich for the WW Title in May 2001.

Only reason you’re trashing FightMatrix is because it ruins the agenda you have been trying to push for Fedor Emelianenko “elite winstreak” Lol. when in reality, no matter how you chop it, his win streak consist of a lot of lower end fighters.
Elite #340 ranked Heavyweight Hong Man Choi for instance…….i think thats a record for all the GOAT candidates. No other GOAT candidate fought a triple digit ranked opponent in their reign, Fedor did…. Not one, but actually 3 opponents ranked in the triple digits.

Wow, this is a whole other level of obsession at this point.

This guy revived an old thread cuz he's going through my past posts so he can respond to anything he thinks I got wrong.

The funny thing is he gets all his facts and dates completely wrong and he follows up with completely irrelevant topics and tangents.

Get a life dude. Why do you dedicate so much of your time to stalking me on sherdog?

Are you embarrassed to answer that question?

 

[BowserJr]

The real problem with using Fight Matrix as a source for historical rankings is that their generated historical rankings just aren’t accurate. They often dont align with the actual historical rankings for the time period if you can find those.

Re: Fedor’s streak, no matter how you slice it the guy had a run at HW in multiple orgs across multiple rulesets in which he beat like 11 ranked opponents and had 5 total title defenses (which despite PRIDE’s booking style of not making each fight a title defense, is still a record at HW to this day), and didn’t suffer a legitimate loss for 10 years.
That’s a historic, all time great streak regardless of anything else.

Correct on both counts

But you're responding to one of the most disingenuous, delusional, obsessive, incoherent posters on sherdog.

Go look at the post he's quoting. Look at the date. Is what he said a relevant reply?

You'll be amused at the answers

 

[jeff7b9]

If I’m learning anything at all from your threads, it’s that in the past, the path to a title shot was a lot easier.

I think a big part of it is the consolidation of talent under one roof


Back in the day the top ten was shared between UFC, PrideFC WEC, Strikeforce, Dream, EliteXC etc.


Now the vast vast majority of the time it is almost entirely in the UFC, .... maybe you got ONE guy that is a respected champ in One or PFLator or KSW.

ALSO as I recall UFC used to have maybe 15 guys in most divisions, maybe 25-30 tops so you had a much shorter line to work thru. There's some ridiculous amount of basically regional fighters that are clogging up these APEX cards and fight nights and prelims all under the "UFC" banner.

Prior to 2008 or so guys would often debut against an absolute monster and you sink or swim. Mayhem fought GSP, lost and got cut. Ain't that a bitch

 

[BigTruck]

The Flyweight version is here.
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Champions with most wins in each division here.
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Rankings are based on FightMatrix.

Dave Menne

Menne's resume:

#9 Carlos Newton

Menne has 1 top ten win.

Georges St-Pierre

St-Pierre's resume:

#1 Michael Bisping

St-Pierre has 1 top ten win.

Murilo Bustamante

Bustamante's resume:

#1 Dave Menne
#6 Matt Lindland

Bustamante has 2 top ten wins.

Rich Franklin

Franklin's resume:

#1 Evan Tanner
#7 David Loiseau

Franklin has 2 top ten wins.

Dan Henderson

Henderson's resume:

#5 Ryo Chonan
#3 Murilo Bustamante

Henderson has 2 top ten wins.

Sean Strickland

Strickland's resume:

#7 Jack Hermansson
#1 Israel Adesanya

Strickland has 2 top ten wins.

Alex Pereira

Pereira's resume:

#8 Sean Strickland
#1 Israel Adesanya

Pereira has 2 top ten wins.

Evan Tanner

Tanner's resume:

#8 Phil Baroni
#9 Phil Baroni
#2 David Terrell

Tanner has 3 top ten wins.

Michael Bisping

Bisping's resume:

#10 Thales Leites
#1 Luke Rockhold
#10 Dan Henderson

Bisping has 3 top ten wins.

Dricus du Plessis

du Plessis' resume:

#8 Derek Brunson
#3 Robert Whittaker
#1 Sean Strickland

du Plessis has 3 top ten wins.

Chris Weidman

Weidman's resume:

#8 Demian Maia
#5 Mark Munoz
#1 Anderson Silva
#2 Anderson Silva
#2 Lyoto Machida

Weidman has 5 top ten wins.

Luke Rockhold

Rockhold's resume:

#3 Ronaldo Souza
#10 Michael Bisping
#2 Lyoto Machida
#1 Chris Weidman
#10 David Branch

Rockhold has 5 top ten wins.

Robert Whittaker

Whittaker's resume:

#7 Uriah Hall
#8 Derek Brunson
#5 Ronaldo Souza
#2 Yoel Romero
#2 Yoel Romero
#8 Darren Till
#5 Jared Cannonier
#5 Marvin Vettori

Whittaker has 8 top ten wins.

Israel Adesanya

Adesanya's resume:

#9 Derek Brunson
#4 Kelvin Gastelum
#1 Robert Whittaker
#5 Yoel Romero
#2 Paulo Costa
#7 Marvin Vettori
#2 Robert Whittaker
#3 Jared Cannonier
#1 Alex Pereira

Adesanya has 9 top ten wins.

Anderson Silva

Silva's resume:

#9 Alex Stiebling
#4 Jeremy Horn
#1 Rich Franklin
#8 Nate Marquardt
#3 Rich Franklin
#9 Demian Maia
#3 Chael Sonnen
#4 Yushin Okami
#2 Chael Sonnen

Silva has 9 top ten wins.

Shouldn't dricus have 4 having submitted Izzy?